Revelation 11-the measure of the temple

[Waiting on him]

“And that Jesus’ coming destroys that working” ...of the man of sin. 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.





Acts 18:5-6And when Silas and Timotheus were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was Christ. [6] And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.

2 Timothy 2:25-26 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; [26] And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

What is “strong delusion”?




1 John 3:10-15 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. [11] For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. [12] Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. [13] Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. [14] We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. [15] Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Who is the man of sin revealed? . He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. [15] Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
Even He goes further and said “Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.”

For some that man of sin hasn’t been revealed yet?

 

[Enoch111]

For some that man of sin hasn’t been revealed yet?

The Man of Sin is none other than the coming Antichrist. Definitely NOT the pope or the papacy. The Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Beast, that Wicked One, will literally sit in the literal temple in Jerusalem in the future and claim that he is God. This is all the more reason why people today should obey the Gospel and be saved.

2 THESSALONIANS 2

APOSTASY TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE REVELATION OF THE ANTICHRIST
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that Man of Sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition;

THE ANTICHRIST WILL CLAIM TO BE GOD WITHIN THE TEMPLE AT JERUSALEM
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

PAUL TAUGHT THIS TRUTH TO THE CHURCHES
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

THE HOLY SPIRIT IS PRESENTLY RESTRAINING SATAN AND THE ANTICHRIST
6 And now ye know what withholdeth [RESTRAINS] that he might be revealed in his time. [Note: "in his time" means a future 3 1/2 year period when the world is under the control of the Antichrist]

THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE THE COMING OF THE ANTICHRIST
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only He who now letteth will let [THE RESTRAINER WILL RESTRAIN], until He be taken out of the way. [Note: The Holy Spirit (and the Church indwelt by the Spirit) will be taken to Heaven]

THE LORD WILL DESTROY THE ANTICHRIST AT HIS SECOND COMING
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [Note: This will be at the battle of Armageddon]

SATAN CONTROLS AND POSSIBLY POSSESSES THE ANTICHRIST
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [Note: Both the Beast and the False Prophet will be extraordinary miracle workers]

SATANIC MIRACLES WILL DECEIVE THE UNBELIEVING WORLD
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [Note: Those who reject Gospel Truth and Bible Truth do not love the truth, therefore will not be saved]

GOD WILL SEND STRONG DELUSION ON EARTH
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [Note: The Antichrist will delude the world into thinking that he is the true Christ and God]

SUBMISSION TO THE ANTICHRIST WILL RESULT IN DAMNATION
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. [Note: Acceptance of the Mark of the Beast will damn those who take it]

Revelation 11,12, & 13 are all related and reveal what happens during the future reign of the Antichrist. The temple being measured will be a literal temple in Jerusalem, which will be destroyed (through a great earthquake) before the Second Coming of Christ.

 

[Waiting on him]

The Man of Sin is none other than the coming Antichrist. Definitely NOT the pope or the papacy. The Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Beast, that Wicked One, will literally sit in the literal temple in Jerusalem in the future and claim that he is God. This is all the more reason why people today should obey the Gospel and be saved.

2 THESSALONIANS 2

APOSTASY TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE REVELATION OF THE ANTICHRIST
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that Man of Sin be revealed, the Son of Perdition;

THE ANTICHRIST WILL CLAIM TO BE GOD WITHIN THE TEMPLE AT JERUSALEM
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

PAUL TAUGHT THIS TRUTH TO THE CHURCHES
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

THE HOLY SPIRIT IS PRESENTLY RESTRAINING SATAN AND THE ANTICHRIST
6 And now ye know what withholdeth [RESTRAINS] that he might be revealed in his time. [Note: "in his time" means a future 3 1/2 year period when the world is under the control of the Antichrist]

THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE THE COMING OF THE ANTICHRIST
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only He who now letteth will let [THE RESTRAINER WILL RESTRAIN], until He be taken out of the way. [Note: The Holy Spirit (and the Church indwelt by the Spirit) will be taken to Heaven]

THE LORD WILL DESTROY THE ANTICHRIST AT HIS SECOND COMING
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [Note: This will be at the battle of Armageddon]

SATAN CONTROLS AND POSSIBLY POSSESSES THE ANTICHRIST
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [Note: Both the Beast and the False Prophet will be extraordinary miracle workers]

SATANIC MIRACLES WILL DECEIVE THE UNBELIEVING WORLD
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [Note: Those who reject Gospel Truth and Bible Truth do not love the truth, therefore will not be saved]

GOD WILL SEND STRONG DELUSION ON EARTH
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [Note: The Antichrist will delude the world into thinking that he is the true Christ and God]

SUBMISSION TO THE ANTICHRIST WILL RESULT IN DAMNATION
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. [Note: Acceptance of the Mark of the Beast will damn those who take it]

Revelation 11,12, & 13 are all related and reveal what happens during the future reign of the Antichrist. The temple being measured will be a literal temple in Jerusalem, which will be destroyed (through a great earthquake) before the Second Coming of Christ.

No where in scripture does it say that he stands in the temple in Jerusalem, in fact it actually say he stands in the temple of God?

 

[Enoch111]

No where in scripture does it say that he stands in the temple in Jerusalem, in fact it actually say he stands in the temple of God?

In Scripture the temple of God is in Jerusalem. The Holy Place within the temple is also in Jerusalem. So what's your problem?

And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein... And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (Rev 11:1,8)

 

[101G]

1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1 Corinthians 3:17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

1 Corinthians 3:18 "Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

PICJAG.

 

[Enoch111]

1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 3:17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 1 Corinthians 3:18 "Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

Here's another post trying to confuse and confound Christians. The Church (and every believer indwelt by the Spirit) is METAPHORICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY the temple of God.

It would be ABSURD to imagine that an angel or a man could measure it with a measuring rod.

 

[101G]

Here's another post trying to confuse and confound Christians. The Church (and every believer indwelt by the Spirit) is METAPHORICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY the temple of God.

It would be ABSURD to imagine that an angel or a man could measure it with a measuring rod.

and? is this not true?

PICJAG.

 

[Enoch111]

and? is this not true?

Misapplying Scripture is FALSE. You misapplied those verses to a discussion of a literal temple in Jerusalem where the angel asked John to literally measure the temple. Now can you take linear measurements of the Church with a measuring rod?

 

[101G]

1 John 2:18 "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time".

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

1 John 2:22 "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son".

PICJAG.

 

[Enoch111]

1 John 2:18 "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time".

What are you trying to prove? That there will be no future Antichrist? Actually John is refuting you right here -- ye have heard that Antichrist shall come.

John was telling us that there would be many false Christs before the final Antichrist. So what you are doing is undermining your own credibility by OPPOSING Scripture.

 

[101G]

1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1 Corinthians 3:17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are". (AND THIS DESTRUCTION IS AT HIS COMING, 2 Thessalonians 2:8 "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming").


2 Thessalonians 2:9 "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2 Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

:2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


1 John 4:3 "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

MAYBE IT'S YOU WHO IS TAKING THING TO LITERAL

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

so many christian are so condition by man teaching until they cannot even look at the word of God in Spirit and in TRUTH. the conditioning by men teaching about God is a terrible thing and is a waste of life, when not lead by the Spirit.

Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men".

PICJAG.

 

[Waiting on him]

In Scripture the temple of God is in Jerusalem. The Holy Place within the temple is also in Jerusalem. So what's your problem?

And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein... And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (Rev 11:1,8)

There is no problem Enoch, it’s just the man of sin..... is continually being revealed to
vvv
ME

 

[Davy]

meaning the vail remains until it turns and the vail is taken (done) away with in Christ. Why follow the blind which to them requires a sanctuary and sacrifices? What sanctuary do they still not yet see as even before being told God does not dwell in temples made with hands?

Why follow the blind? Are you saying I'm following the blind because of what THEY believe??? You certainly sound 'confused'! I'm a believer on Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ, The Messiah, and His death and resurrection.

What is the matter with your reasoning??? Haven't you read what Apostle Paul said about the blinded Israel in part in Romans 11, that God is Who blinded them so The Gospel would go to the Gentiles? and that God has not cast away His chosen that He did foreknow?

The unbelieving Jews in Judea were blinded (BY GOD HIMSELF) away from The Gospel prior... to Jesus' first coming. His 1st coming to die on the cross was in order to defeat death and the devil for us. If it had not happened, then where would we be today? THINK.

 

[Davy]

so many christian are so condition by man teaching until they cannot even look at the word of God in Spirit and in TRUTH. the conditioning by men teaching about God is a terrible thing and is a waste of life, when not lead by the Spirit.

Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men".

PICJAG.

One thing is for certain, the coming of a final Antichrist false-Christ entity to Jerusalem is a repeated warning in God's Word, first given through God's prophet Daniel and then our Lord Jesus in The Gospel (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 11:30-31; Matthew 24:23-26). Then Apostle Paul covered the matter (2 Corinthians 11; 2 Thessalonians 2). Then Apostle John (1 John 2:18). Then our Lord Jesus again through Apostle John (Revelation 13; Revelation 17).

That is not man's teaching. It is a warning directly from our Heavenly Father and His Son via His servants by The Holy Spirit given them.

But what actually is... man's teaching, doctrines of men, is the foolishness that the idea of 'antichrist' is just some negative force, like a bad weather storm that comes and goes in all generations applied to anyone doing evil. That really is an ignorant idea that doesn't even fit the Scripture descriptions even a little bit.

 

[101G]

One thing is for certain, the coming of a final Antichrist false-Christ entity to Jerusalem is a repeated warning in God's Word, first given through God's prophet Daniel and then our Lord Jesus in The Gospel (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 11:30-31; Matthew 24:23-26). Then Apostle Paul covered the matter (2 Corinthians 11; 2 Thessalonians 2). Then Apostle John (1 John 2:18). Then our Lord Jesus again through Apostle John (Revelation 13; Revelation 17).

That is not man's teaching. It is a warning directly from our Heavenly Father and His Son via His servants by The Holy Spirit given them.

But what actually is... man's teaching, doctrines of men, is the foolishness that the idea of 'antichrist' is just some negative force, like a bad weather storm that comes and goes in all generations applied to anyone doing evil. That really is an ignorant idea that doesn't even fit the Scripture descriptions even a little bit.

I find a lot of man made doctrine do not agree with the word of God but "sound" good to the itching ear.

also in your post a while back, you said, "Fact 2: when Jesus comes to gather His Church on that last day, He brings the "asleep" saints with Him, from Heaven". It's because they are already there with Him".

1 Thessalonians 4:14 "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. (is this the spirit of those that sleep?)

1 Thessalonians 4:15 "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

well who are those alsleep in the grave that rise first? 1 Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

PICJAG.

 

[Davy]

I find a lot of man made doctrine do not agree with the word of God but "sound" good to the itching ear.

also in your post a while back, you said, "Fact 2: when Jesus comes to gather His Church on that last day, He brings the "asleep" saints with Him, from Heaven". It's because they are already there with Him".

1 Thessalonians 4:14 "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. (is this the spirit of those that sleep?)

1 Thessalonians 4:15 "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

well who are those alsleep in the grave that rise first? 1 Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

PICJAG.

So... you believe our 'spirit' and 'soul' after flesh death actually resides in a literal hole in the ground until our Lord Jesus returns? Haven't you considered that if our spirit/soul does not continue to that other dimension where it is actually from, then it would no longer exist if it died with flesh? It would no longer exist. Thankfully, our Lord Jesus showed us what happens to our soul after flesh death...

Matt 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him Which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
KJV

What exactly did our Lord Jesus mean when He said there, "but are not able to kill the soul"???

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Why follow the blind? Are you saying I'm following the blind because of what THEY believe???

No. Only asking if you are saying the same thing about what is the temple of God.

Haven't you read what Apostle Paul said about the blinded Israel in part in Romans 11, that God is Who blinded them so The Gospel would go to the Gentiles? and that God has not cast away His chosen that He did foreknow?

Yes. But He also distinguish between those born of the promise. Then also 2 Corinthians 3:14-18 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. [15] But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. [16] Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. [17] Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. [18] But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 6:15-17 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. [16] What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. [17] But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

2 Corinthians 6:15-16 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? [16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them ; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

 

[Davy]

No. Only asking if you are saying the same thing about what is the temple of God.

Same thing WHO is saying?

Yes. But He also distinguish between those born of the promise. Then also 2 Corinthians 3:14-18 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. [15] But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. [16] Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. [17] Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. [18] But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

No, you cannot just go off on Scripture you 'think' disproves what Paul said in other Scripture. In software programming that's like an 'infinite loop'. Paul did not contradict himself. Stick with the Romans 11 Scripture where Paul showed what will happen with the part of Israel which God blinded once their blindness is removed. Hint: read and heed Romans 11:23-32.

Something you really ought to understand. God is not going to let any soul perish in the future lake of fire that has not been able to fully hear and understanding The Gospel without blinders on. Since Paul showed in Romans 11 that God is Who placed the 'blindness' upon Paul's brethren (the Jews), how then can they be held accountable for their unbelief? They cannot in that state. God's blindness He put upon them MUST first be removed! When? When Paul said there, in Romans 11:25.