Salvation : A Gift from God.

[Behold]

Reader,

God's Salvation is Eternal. It will last for as long as God exits.
Its not part time or temporary.

Why not?

Its Because God's Salvation is Jesus Himself, and its also God's Righteousnes, as : Christ's imputed Righteousness".
See those 2?
They are OF GOD, and God is Eternal, therefore whatever God gives to you spiritually, is also eternal.

So, How does God save you?
Reader,.........He saves you with His Grace........that is all His.
This means that there is no CAUSE found in you, that would or could earn it or keep it.
Salvation is SUPPLIED by God.....and its ETERNAL regarding the BELIEVER who is Born again.

Also, Notice something that Jesus said at the Last Supper. ........ He said....>"They hated me, without a cause'.
Now, if you are a person who likes to search "Koine Greek words"......then when you search that word "CAUSE", in the verse....it literally means "cause-less".
= No cause found .

And THAT is how you are to understand your Salvation that God supplied to you., in that there is no cause found in you, that merits it or can earn it.

This is why God's Salvation is explained by Paul as : "THE GIFT of Salvation". And '"Imputed Righteousness".

And Lastly, notice what a person is, when God gives them His Eternal Salvation that is His "Righteousness".

Romans 5 : 8-11. ........ 1.) "while we were Yet sinners"....... and 2.) ""when we were enemies of God"..

See that?
THAT is the situation that finds God's Salvation...... = a sinner who is an enemy of God, is GIVEN BY GOD...."righteousness", as a "Gift".
And now they are "made righteous'" and there is no cause found in them that makes them worthy.....as they are a sinner who was an enemy of God.
That is YOU and ME, when we came to faith in Christ.
Understand?
And now, God has esteemed them/us... and decreed them/us as "RIGHTEOUS">, and that is eternal because It came from Eternal God.

Now its vital, its imperitive that you realize that there is no cause found in you, that would create a reason for God to save you to begin with...
And you have to understand that, you have to have that as your FAITH..... or you will find yourself unable to believe that God keeps you saved, and you will try to do it for yourself. And once that (broken faith) happens in your head, then you have "fallen from Grace", and you are in a "carnal mind" and you will not be able to believe correctly regarding "Justification by Faith".
And without that foundation of revelation, the bible will be nothing to you but confusion, and that is because understanding "justification by faith" is the ONLY Key that unlocks church doctrine that becomes revelation knowledge for you.

 

[faithhopecharity]

Reader,

God's Salvation is Eternal. It will last for as long as God exits.
Its not part time or temporary.

Why not?

Its Because God's Salvation is Jesus Himself, and its also God's Righteousnes, as : Christ's imputed Righteousness".
See those 2?
They are OF GOD, and God is Eternal, therefore whatever God gives to you spiritually, is also eternal.

So, How does God save you?
Reader,.........He saves you with His Grace........that is all His.
This means that there is no CAUSE found in you, that would or could earn it or keep it.
Salvation is SUPPLIED by God.....and its ETERNAL regarding the BELIEVER who is Born again.

Also, Notice something that Jesus said at the Last Supper. ........ He said....>"They hated me, without a cause'.
Now, if you are a person who likes to search "Koine Greek words"......then when you search that word "CAUSE", in the verse....it literally means "cause-less".
= No cause found .

And THAT is how you are to understand your Salvation that God supplied to you., in that there is no cause found in you, that merits it or can earn it.

This is why God's Salvation is explained by Paul as : "THE GIFT of Salvation". And '"Imputed Righteousness".

And Lastly, notice what a person is, when God gives them His Eternal Salvation that is His "Righteousness".

Romans 5 : 8-11. ........ 1.) "while we were Yet sinners"....... and 2.) ""when we were enemies of God"..

See that?
THAT is the situation that finds God's Salvation...... = a sinner who is an enemy of God, is GIVEN BY GOD...."righteousness", as a "Gift".
And now they are "made righteous'" and there is no cause found in them that makes them worthy.....as they are a sinner who was an enemy of God.
That is YOU and ME, when we came to faith in Christ.
Understand?
And now, God has esteemed them/us... and decreed them/us as "RIGHTEOUS">, and that is eternal because It came from Eternal God.

Now its vital, its imperitive that you realize that there is no cause found in you, that would create a reason for God to save you to begin with...
And you have to understand that, you have to have that as your FAITH..... or you will find yourself unable to believe that God keeps you saved, and you will try to do it for yourself. And once that (broken faith) happens in your head, then you have "fallen from Grace", and you are in a "carnal mind" and you will not be able to believe correctly regarding "Justification by Faith".
And without that foundation of revelation, the bible will be nothing to you but confusion, and that is because understanding "justification by faith" is the ONLY Key that unlocks church doctrine that becomes revelation knowledge for you.

justification is the gift of God salvation requires our participation in sanctification and perseverance!
Lk 1:75
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.


acts 10:35
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

ps 23:3
He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

mt 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

thks

 

[Behold]

justification is the gift of God salvation requires our participation in sanctification and perseverance!
Lk 1:75
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

No one is saved by works or "perseverance"., as that is a self effort. That is you trying to do something to get God to save you or keep you, and God wont have it, as God's Righteousness come THROUGH CHRIST, alone..

John 14:6

The eternal Fact is... that God's SALVATION, comes Through Christ alone, as HE is our eternal Salvation...and that is not something that you can do for yourself., its something that God supplies, "through FAITH", in Christ alone.

Also, there are no CHRISTians in Luke 1:75.
As that verse initually comes from a OT Prophecy given by Zechariah, where God was showing Him, and other Prophets, including King David, that therte was coming a day when God was going to redeem BELIEVERS, as He had done for ABRAHAM, and it would be BY FAITH alone.
They, the believers would be etermally REDEEMED by "the blood of Jesus".. "the blood of the Holy Lamb" and then NOW being eternally REDEEMED= by God's Son's Sacrifice, they are become a "new creation" "in Christ".. (CHRISTians).. who now exist in God's "imputed righteous", ("The Gift of Righteouses") which causes them to remain the same before God, "all the days of their Life".

 

[faithhopecharity]

No one is saved by works or "perseverance"., as that is a self effort. That is you trying to do something to get God to save you or keep you, and God wont have it, as God's Righteousness come THROUGH CHRIST, alone..

John 14:6

The eternal Fact is... that God's SALVATION, comes Through Christ alone, as HE is our eternal Salvation...and that is not something that you can do for yourself., its something that God supplies, "through FAITH", in Christ alone.

Also, there are no CHRISTians in Luke 1:75.
As that verse initually comes from a OT Prophecy given by Zechariah, where God was showing Him, and other Prophets, including King David, that therte was coming a day when God was going to redeem BELIEVERS, as He had done for ABRAHAM, and it would be BY FAITH alone.
They, the believers would be etermally REDEEMED by "the blood of Jesus".. "the blood of the Holy Lamb" and then NOW being eternally REDEEMED= by God's Son's Sacrifice, they are become a "new creation" "in Christ".. (CHRISTians).. who now exist in God's "imputed righteous", ("The Gift of Righteouses") which causes them to remain the same before God, "all the days of their Life".

understanding union with Christ!

By the grace of justification received by faith and baptism we have union with God thru Christ, in the communion of saints, empowered by grace and life in the spirit to attain to eternal salvation on glory!

Jn 15:5 apart from me you can do nothing.

phil 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.


Colossians 1:11
Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

(((Union with Christ)))

col 1:26-27

26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Eph 5:32
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

gal 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

1 Corinthians 12:7
But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

Jn 15:4
Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Jn 15:5 Apart from me you can do nothing.

phil 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.


Our good works after we receive the grace of justification are transformed by grace and performed in grace united with Christ and given life of the spirit because of God's grace operating in us! (Jn 15:5 apart from Christ? nothing! Phil 4:13 in Christ? all things!)


Belong to God purchased at the price of the precious blood of Jesus!
Jn 1:29, eph 2:12, heb 10:19
heb 12:24, 1 pet 1:2, 1 pet 1:18-19
1 Jn 1:7


heb 2:11-12

11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.


Summary

Jn 15:4 abide in Christ
mt 26:41 watch and pray
mk 24:48 watch and pray
Lk 21:36 Watch and pray, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
mt 7:7 ask and you shall receive
Lk 9:23 phil 1:29 daily, deny thyself, take up thy cross and follow me.
mt 7:14 narrow road that leads to life
Jude 1:21 Keeping ourselves in the love of God.
mt 10:22 mk 13:13 mt 24:13 endure to the end in patient suffering
rev 2:10 he who overcomes I shall give the crown of life!

Galatians 5:6
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Colossians 1:11
Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

acts 10:35
Fulfilling all righteousness!

Lk 1:75
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

The means of our salvation is according to the purpose of our creation!

Our Eternal Purpose!

To Know, Love, & serve God!

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

No one is saved by works or "perseverance"., as that is a self effort. That is you trying to do something to get God to save you or keep you, and God wont have it, as God's Righteousness come THROUGH CHRIST, alone..

John 14:6

The eternal Fact is... that God's SALVATION, comes Through Christ alone, as HE is our eternal Salvation...and that is not something that you can do for yourself., its something that God supplies, "through FAITH", in Christ alone.

Also, there are no CHRISTians in Luke 1:75.
As that verse initually comes from a OT Prophecy given by Zechariah, where God was showing Him, and other Prophets, including King David, that therte was coming a day when God was going to redeem BELIEVERS, as He had done for ABRAHAM, and it would be BY FAITH alone.
They, the believers would be etermally REDEEMED by "the blood of Jesus".. "the blood of the Holy Lamb" and then NOW being eternally REDEEMED= by God's Son's Sacrifice, they are become a "new creation" "in Christ".. (CHRISTians).. who now exist in God's "imputed righteous", ("The Gift of Righteouses") which causes them to remain the same before God, "all the days of their Life".

Christ does not do it all for us!

but with us!

union is not total substitution!

Ps 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Galatians 5:6
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

(((Love is known in deeds)))

ps 23:3 c

No one is saved by works or "perseverance"., as that is a self effort. That is you trying to do something to get God to save you or keep you, and God wont have it, as God's Righteousness come THROUGH CHRIST, alone..

John 14:6

The eternal Fact is... that God's SALVATION, comes Through Christ alone, as HE is our eternal Salvation...and that is not something that you can do for yourself., its something that God supplies, "through FAITH", in Christ alone.

Also, there are no CHRISTians in Luke 1:75.
As that verse initually comes from a OT Prophecy given by Zechariah, where God was showing Him, and other Prophets, including King David, that therte was coming a day when God was going to redeem BELIEVERS, as He had done for ABRAHAM, and it would be BY FAITH alone.
They, the believers would be etermally REDEEMED by "the blood of Jesus".. "the blood of the Holy Lamb" and then NOW being eternally REDEEMED= by God's Son's Sacrifice, they are become a "new creation" "in Christ".. (CHRISTians).. who now exist in God's "imputed righteous", ("The Gift of Righteouses") which causes them to remain the same before God, "all the days of their Life".

Galatians 5:6
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

(((Love is known in deeds)))

ps 23:3 & mt 7:14 requires deeds

obedience requires deeds

righteousness requires deeds

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

thks

 

[PeterAndroz]

Christ does not do it all for us!

but with us!

union is not total substitution!

Ps 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Galatians 5:6
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

(((Love is known in deeds)))

ps 23:3 c

Galatians 5:6
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

(((Love is known in deeds)))

ps 23:3 & mt 7:14 requires deeds

obedience requires deeds

righteousness requires deeds

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

thks

U said "obedience requires deeds"
Paul says Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Either you are right or Paul is :)
++++
For me, the teachings of Christ through Paul are what I rely on :)
+++
Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, ...
Rom 11:13
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles...
Rom 15:16
That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God...
+++
The other Apostles agreed & knew who taught who
Gal 2:2
And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,....
Gal 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
++++
What is the role of an Apostle/Minister ?
To teach THEIR audience.
BUT NOW there are NO SEPARATE audiences ALL are equal :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
++++
How are believers 'today' saved, sealed, justified, made righteous ?
By the SAVING Gospel that applies today.
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
++++
The PERFORMANCE conditions :-
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
++++
Your 'deeds'/works/behavior/performance only decide your eternal rewards/loss
Rom 14:10
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1 Cor 3:10-15
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
2 Cor 5:10
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

 

[faithhopecharity]

U said "obedience requires deeds"
Paul says Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Either you are right or Paul is :)
++++
For me, the teachings of Christ through Paul are what I rely on :)
+++
Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, ...
Rom 11:13
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles...
Rom 15:16
That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God...
+++
The other Apostles agreed & knew who taught who
Gal 2:2
And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,....
Gal 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
++++
What is the role of an Apostle/Minister ?
To teach THEIR audience.
BUT NOW there are NO SEPARATE audiences ALL are equal :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
++++
How are believers 'today' saved, sealed, justified, made righteous ?
By the SAVING Gospel that applies today.
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
++++
The PERFORMANCE conditions :-
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
++++
Your 'deeds'/works/behavior/performance only decide your eternal rewards/loss
Rom 14:10
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1 Cor 3:10-15
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
2 Cor 5:10
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

your confusing justification with sanctification & perseverance

we receive the free gratuitous gift of justification, the initial grace, with the supernatural gifts of faith hope & charity with the Holy spirit

after that we participate in sanctification and perseverance unto the end!

Jn 15:1-6

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

mk 13:13 mt 10:22 mt 24:13 he who endures to the end shall be saved

rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

thks

 

[Grailhunter]

The people that bring up the whole you are not saved by works thing, are usually OSAS.
They demonstrate their ignorance of the scriptures by promoting OSAS in the first place.
Secondly they do not know in what contexts that the word works is used in the scriptures.
And then along with them you have people that say that you do nothing in regard to your salvation. It is an empty deception.
If you live your life never thinking of God, you can only have one destination. Pack the barbeque sauce.
Now it is said that Yeshua has to call you or invite you, and that is true. But how many are not called....the word used in the scripture is draw.
But YOU have to decide to be interested.
YOU have to decide to have faith. John 3:16 John 3:18 Ephesians 2:8-9 Hebrews 11:6
YOU have to repent of your sins and decide to do your best to be good. Galatians 5:22-23
YOU have to go and be baptized. Acts 2:38
YOU decide to participate in the Bread and Wine Ritual. Gospel of John chapter 6
From there YOU work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians 2:12
But still without Yeshua you could do all that and still not be saved, you accept the invitation and God the Son saves you.
Now for the word works.....
The word(s) works and deeds a lot the times comes from the same Greek word.
The only times works or deeds have no effect on salvation is the "works" obedience of the Mosaic Law.
In fact we will be judges by our deeds either good or bad.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 2nd Corinthians 5:10
Still it is kind of a play on words that deeds do not save you. Still the fact remains that only the saving blood or grace of Yeshua can save you.
But you can still fall out of that by sinning or not helping one another....

Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? Luke 6:46

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness. Matthew 7:21-23 “

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God 1st Corinthians 6:9-10

Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: sexual immorality, impurity, indecent behavior, idolatry, witchcraft, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21

But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Ephesians 5:3-5

John 5:28-29 Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29

So the best thing to do is my motto....Be good and do good.

As far as doing good, take note of the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats. Those that did not help one another went to Hell.

So although only Yeshua can save you, He is the one that can send you to Hell for your sins and not helping one another. Call it what you want, works or deeds. Workout your salvation with fear and trembling.

Sinning is a serious thing. You need to repent of your sins and ask Yeshua for forgiveness. Sure we all sin but Yeshua expects us to keep it to a minimum. Like He said to the Adulteress, go and sin no more. Sure she was going to sin again, but it was expected that she would not commit adultery again.
God Bless
Be good and do good.
The Johnny Appleseed of Truth.

 

[PeterAndroz]

your confusing justification with sanctification & perseverance

we receive the free gratuitous gift of justification, the initial grace, with the supernatural gifts of faith hope & charity with the Holy spirit

after that we participate in sanctification and perseverance unto the end!

Jn 15:1-6

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

mk 13:13 mt 10:22 mt 24:13 he who endures to the end shall be saved

rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

thks

Paul teaches me Salvation, not John or Rev etc
You are blending the teachings of John with Paul = your confusion

thks
.
Study these verses :)

Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, ...
Rom 11:13
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles...
Rom 15:16
That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God...
+++
The other Apostles agreed & knew who taught who
Gal 2:2
And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,....
Gal 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
++++
What is the role of an Apostle/Minister ?
To teach THEIR audience.
BUT NOW there are NO SEPARATE audiences ALL are equal :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
++++
How are believers 'today' saved, sealed, justified, made righteous ?
By the SAVING Gospel that applies today.
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
++++
The PERFORMANCE conditions :-
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
++++
Your 'deeds'/works/behavior/performance only decide your eternal rewards/loss
Rom 14:10
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1 Cor 3:10-15
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
2 Cor 5:10
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

 

[faithhopecharity]

What is Grace?

Grace is the life of God!


2 pet 1:2-4

2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 cor 13:1-2

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.

rom 5:5
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.


1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Grace is Christ sharing His divine life with us!

thks

 

[PeterAndroz]

What is Grace?

Grace is the life of God!


2 pet 1:2-4

2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 cor 13:1-2

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.

rom 5:5
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.


1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Grace is Christ sharing His divine life with us!

thks

Please list the verses that you believe teach the saving gospel for today

 

[faithhopecharity]

The people that bring up the whole you are not saved by works thing, are usually OSAS.
They demonstrate their ignorance of the scriptures by promoting OSAS in the first place.
Secondly they do not know in what contexts that the word works is used in the scriptures.
And then along with them you have people that say that you do nothing in regard to your salvation. It is an empty deception.
If you live your life never thinking of God, you can only have one destination. Pack the barbeque sauce.
Now it is said that Yeshua has to call you or invite you, and that is true. But how many are not called....the word used in the scripture is draw.
But YOU have to decide to be interested.
YOU have to decide to have faith. John 3:16 John 3:18 Ephesians 2:8-9 Hebrews 11:6
YOU have to repent of your sins and decide to do your best to be good. Galatians 5:22-23
YOU have to go and be baptized. Acts 2:38
YOU decide to participate in the Bread and Wine Ritual. Gospel of John chapter 6
From there YOU work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians 2:12
But still without Yeshua you could do all that and still not be saved, you accept the invitation and God the Son saves you.
Now for the word works.....
The word(s) works and deeds a lot the times comes from the same Greek word.
The only times works or deeds have no effect on salvation is the "works" obedience of the Mosaic Law.
In fact we will be judges by our deeds either good or bad.
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 2nd Corinthians 5:10
Still it is kind of a play on words that deeds do not save you. Still the fact remains that only the saving blood or grace of Yeshua can save you.
But you can still fall out of that by sinning or not helping one another....

Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? Luke 6:46

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness. Matthew 7:21-23 “

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God 1st Corinthians 6:9-10

Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: sexual immorality, impurity, indecent behavior, idolatry, witchcraft, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21

But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Ephesians 5:3-5

John 5:28-29 Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29

So the best thing to do is my motto....Be good and do good.

As far as doing good, take note of the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats. Those that did not help one another went to Hell.

So although only Yeshua can save you, He is the one that can send you to Hell for your sins and not helping one another. Call it what you want, works or deeds. Workout your salvation with fear and trembling.

Sinning is a serious thing. You need to repent of your sins and ask Yeshua for forgiveness. Sure we all sin but Yeshua expects us to keep it to a minimum. Like He said to the Adulteress, go and sin no more. Sure she was going to sin again, but it was expected that she would not commit adultery again.
God Bless
Be good and do good.
The Johnny Appleseed of Truth.

Lk 1:75
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

acts 10:35
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

James 1:3
Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

James 1:4
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

scripture opposes o.s.a.s

ps 23:3 He "restores" my soul!

and there cannot be revival and eternal security

1 Timothy 5:12
Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

thks

 

[PeterAndroz]

Lk 1:75
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

acts 10:35
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

James 1:3
Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

James 1:4
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

scripture opposes o.s.a.s

ps 23:3 He "restores" my soul!

and there cannot be revival and eternal security

1 Timothy 5:12
Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

thks

and apparently you know Scripture better than anyone else
...
Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, ...
Rom 11:13
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles...
Rom 15:16
That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God...
+++
The other Apostles agreed & knew who taught who
Gal 2:2
And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,....
Gal 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
++++
What is the role of an Apostle/Minister ?
To teach THEIR audience.
BUT NOW there are NO SEPARATE audiences ALL are equal :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
++++
How are believers 'today' saved, sealed, justified, made righteous ?
By the SAVING Gospel that applies today.
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
++++
The PERFORMANCE conditions :-
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
++++
Your 'deeds'/works/behavior/performance only decide your eternal rewards/loss
Rom 14:10
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1 Cor 3:10-15
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
2 Cor 5:10
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

 

[faithhopecharity]

Paul teaches me Salvation, not John or Rev etc
You are blending the teachings of John with Paul = your confusion

thks
.
Study these verses :)

Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, ...
Rom 11:13
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles...
Rom 15:16
That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God...
+++
The other Apostles agreed & knew who taught who
Gal 2:2
And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,....
Gal 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
++++
What is the role of an Apostle/Minister ?
To teach THEIR audience.
BUT NOW there are NO SEPARATE audiences ALL are equal :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
++++
How are believers 'today' saved, sealed, justified, made righteous ?
By the SAVING Gospel that applies today.
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
++++
The PERFORMANCE conditions :-
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
++++
Your 'deeds'/works/behavior/performance only decide your eternal rewards/loss
Rom 14:10
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1 Cor 3:10-15
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
2 Cor 5:10
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

heb 1:1-2

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Christ is our teacher

Mt 16:18-19 Jn 10:16 Gal 4:16
one true church!

Lk 10:16
Jn 13:20
matt 6:33
matt 16:18-19
matt 18:17
matt 28:19
Jn 20:21-23
acts 1:8
acts 2:42
acts 16:17
acts 17:18
the apostolic church commanded to teach, sanctify, and govern!
same ministry, power, and authority as Christ!

If you believe scripture you would believe the teaching of the apostolic church which alone possesses the authority of Jesus Christ in union with Jesus Christ! matt 28:19-20 matt 16:18:19 Jn 20:21-23 acts 1:1-8

Christ is the light! (Truth)
Jn 8:12

The church he founded is also the light as an extension and command of Christ! Matt 5:14

Christ is the teacher!
Heb 1:1-3

The church He founded is also our teacher as an extension and command of Christ! Matt 18:17

Christ is the truth!
Jn 14:6

Must Hear Christ!
matt 3:17

Must hear the Church!
Matt 18:17 matt 28:19 acts 1:8

The church He founded is also the pillar of truth as an extension and command of Christ! 1 tim 3:15

The gates of hell SHALL NOT prevail against the one, holy, Catholics,
& apostolic church founded by Christ on peter and the apostles!
Matt 16:18-19

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church to teach & sanctify all men unto eternal salvation of all men! matt 28:19-20

Christ and His church are one: Acts 9:4 mystical communion: eph 5:32


Ephesians 3:10
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

Ephesians 3:21
Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

1 John 4:6
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

thks

 

[WalterandDebbie]

6-4-26

Hello Brother, Behold, great post, thanks for sharing. Salvation Through Our Lord Yeshua Ha Mashiach

• Oct 31, 2025

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Friday 6th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle 10-31-25, Cheshvan 7, 5786 40th. Day of Fall
Salvation through Our Lord Yeshua Ha Mashiach

Psalm 100

Shout for Joy to the Lord, All You Lands!
1{A Psalm of praise.} Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all ye lands.

2Serve the LORD with gladness: come before his presence with singing.

3Know ye that the LORD is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

4Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.

5For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.

Prayer: By The Power Of The Comforter, The Holy Ghost, The Spirit Of Truth. Yes, GOD Our/Father, The King Messiah, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. We Thank You, Father/Yehovah Elohim/Yeshua Ha Mashiach! The Son Of The Living God YHVH Our LORD And Precious Saviour, Jesus Christ, you have been our dwelling Place in all generations, For Reconciliation And Salvation.

Prayer: Yes LORD, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. We Thank You Father/Yehovah Elohim/Yeshua Ha Mashiach! you have been our dwelling place in all generations. We worship before your throne, praising you with thanksgiving and serving you with gladness. Your mercy is from everlasting to everlasting upon those that hear you and keep your covenant and remember your commandments to do them.

Our Father, grant us that our faith should stand in the power of your Holy Spirit. Teach us good judgement and knowledge according to your word of truth and show us the path in which we should go.

Please guide us and open our eyes to your spiritual truths and cause our ears to take heed of what we hear that more may be given us.

We are grateful for the gifts of life and health, and all the wonderful things that you see fit to do for us, and the treasures that you reveal to us out of your law and testimony.

Bless your holy name. We are the people of your pasture and the sheep of your hand, gathered together in your name. We pray these things in Yeshua holy name. Amen. The Gospel Is The Doctrine That Was Brought Forth By The King Messiah/Yeshua/The Great I AM/Jesus Christ Our LORD/From His Father/Yehovah About The Kingdom Of GOD.

Romans 12

Living Sacrifices

(1 Corinthians 3:16-18; 1 Corinthians 6:18-20)

1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Please, LORD, Give Us The strength Needed To Hear And Do Each Task Pleasing In Your Sight, And We Thank You in Yeshua's Holy and Righteous Name, Jesus Christ, Amen.
Love, Walter and Debbie

Salvation through Yeshua

By DuckDuckGo

Salvation through Yeshua, also known as Jesus, is understood in Christianity as the deliverance from sin and its consequences, achieved through faith in Him as Lord and Redeemer. This belief emphasizes that personal repentance and acceptance of Yeshua's sacrifice are essential for receiving God's grace and forgiveness.

Understanding Salvation through Yeshua
Definition of Salvation
Salvation refers to the deliverance of the soul from sin and its consequences. In religious contexts, it often signifies being saved from spiritual harm and achieving a right relationship with God.

Yeshua as the Source of Salvation
Yeshua, the Hebrew name for Jesus Christ, literally means "salvation." This name is significant in both Jewish and Christian traditions. It emphasizes that salvation is found exclusively through Him. The New Testament states, "There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved"

Acts 4:12 KJV

Theological Basis
Sin and Separation: According to scripture, all humans are separated from God due to sin. This separation creates a need for atonement.

Faith in Yeshua: Salvation is achieved through personal faith in Yeshua as Lord and Redeemer. This involves recognizing one's sins and accepting Yeshua's sacrifice for those sins.

God's Grace: Salvation is viewed as a gift from God, made possible through His grace. It is not earned by human efforts but received through faith.

Steps to Accept Salvation
To enter into a relationship with Yeshua, one can follow these steps:

Acknowledge personal sin and the need for salvation.
Believe that Yeshua died for those sins and rose again.
Accept Him as Savior and commit to following His teachings.

This process is often expressed in a prayer of acceptance, inviting Yeshua into one's life.

Understanding these concepts can help individuals grasp the significance of Yeshua in the context of salvation and the broader spiritual journey.

Below is a link to the O.P./Subject. Please scroll down on the right side of the page to the current date of the subject. Thank You.

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Love, Walter and Debbie

 

[Soyeong]

Reader,

God's Salvation is Eternal. It will last for as long as God exits.
Its not part time or temporary.

Why not?

Its Because God's Salvation is Jesus Himself, and its also God's Righteousnes, as : Christ's imputed Righteousness".
See those 2?
They are OF GOD, and God is Eternal, therefore whatever God gives to you spiritually, is also eternal.

So, How does God save you?
Reader,.........He saves you with His Grace........that is all His.
This means that there is no CAUSE found in you, that would or could earn it or keep it.
Salvation is SUPPLIED by God.....and its ETERNAL regarding the BELIEVER who is Born again.

Also, Notice something that Jesus said at the Last Supper. ........ He said....>"They hated me, without a cause'.
Now, if you are a person who likes to search "Koine Greek words"......then when you search that word "CAUSE", in the verse....it literally means "cause-less".
= No cause found .

And THAT is how you are to understand your Salvation that God supplied to you., in that there is no cause found in you, that merits it or can earn it.

This is why God's Salvation is explained by Paul as : "THE GIFT of Salvation". And '"Imputed Righteousness".

And Lastly, notice what a person is, when God gives them His Eternal Salvation that is His "Righteousness".

Romans 5 : 8-11. ........ 1.) "while we were Yet sinners"....... and 2.) ""when we were enemies of God"..

See that?
THAT is the situation that finds God's Salvation...... = a sinner who is an enemy of God, is GIVEN BY GOD...."righteousness", as a "Gift".
And now they are "made righteous'" and there is no cause found in them that makes them worthy.....as they are a sinner who was an enemy of God.
That is YOU and ME, when we came to faith in Christ.
Understand?
And now, God has esteemed them/us... and decreed them/us as "RIGHTEOUS">, and that is eternal because It came from Eternal God.

Now its vital, its imperitive that you realize that there is no cause found in you, that would create a reason for God to save you to begin with...
And you have to understand that, you have to have that as your FAITH..... or you will find yourself unable to believe that God keeps you saved, and you will try to do it for yourself. And once that (broken faith) happens in your head, then you have "fallen from Grace", and you are in a "carnal mind" and you will not be able to believe correctly regarding "Justification by Faith".
And without that foundation of revelation, the bible will be nothing to you but confusion, and that is because understanding "justification by faith" is the ONLY Key that unlocks church doctrine that becomes revelation knowledge for you.

God's gift of salvation is getting to experience being a doer of the Law of God (Titus 2:11-13).

 

[faithhopecharity]

Please list the verses that you believe teach the saving gospel for today

Life!

1) general redemption
(no works / no participation)

Christ brought us to the life of grace!

Christ by His life, death, (blood) and resurrection obtained the atonement and general redemption making the life of grace possible!

Jn 1:14
Jn 1:16
Jn 1:17
Jn 10:10
Jn 14:6
eph 2:1

rom 5:5-8

5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

God is love, grace is the life of God!

2) justification
(gratuitous / no works)

We consent to His redemption, receive instructions in the faith and are born again by baptism with the the infused supernatural gifts of faith, hope, & charty, with sanctifying grace, and the life of the Spirit!

mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved.

1 cor 13:13 faith, hope, & charity
rom 5:5 love

3) sanctification / perseverance
(participation required)

Empowered by Christ's life, Spirit, merits, & grace we abide in Him
Jn 15:1-6 and endure all things in patience and for love of God unto the end!

Mk 13:13, mt 10:22, & mt 24:13
he who endures to the end shall be saved!


We have union with God and His saints in Christ by grace!

Romans 5:2
By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

2 pet 3:18 we must grow in grace

Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1-4
gal 5:19-21
gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20
2 cor 4:7
1 tim 5:12
rev 21:8
rev 21:27
rom 8:1
can lose grace

1 cor 15:10 can have grace in vain

2 cor 4:7 treasure (grace) in earthen vessels

Lk 1:75
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

acts 10:35
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

1 John 3:10
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Gal 6:7-8

7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

and apparently you know Scripture better than anyone else
...
Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, ...
Rom 11:13
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles...
Rom 15:16
That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God...
+++
The other Apostles agreed & knew who taught who
Gal 2:2
And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,....
Gal 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
++++
What is the role of an Apostle/Minister ?
To teach THEIR audience.
BUT NOW there are NO SEPARATE audiences ALL are equal :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
++++
How are believers 'today' saved, sealed, justified, made righteous ?
By the SAVING Gospel that applies today.
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
++++
The PERFORMANCE conditions :-
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
++++
Your 'deeds'/works/behavior/performance only decide your eternal rewards/loss
Rom 14:10
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1 Cor 3:10-15
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
2 Cor 5:10
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

are you saved?

can a man be saved without a priest?

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

and apparently you know Scripture better than anyone else

...
Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, ...
Rom 11:13
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles...
Rom 15:16
That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God...
+++
The other Apostles agreed & knew who taught who
Gal 2:2
And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,....
Gal 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
++++
What is the role of an Apostle/Minister ?
To teach THEIR audience.
BUT NOW there are NO SEPARATE audiences ALL are equal :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
++++
How are believers 'today' saved, sealed, justified, made righteous ?
By the SAVING Gospel that applies today.
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
++++
The PERFORMANCE conditions :-
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
++++
Your 'deeds'/works/behavior/performance only decide your eternal rewards/loss
Rom 14:10
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1 Cor 3:10-15
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
2 Cor 5:10
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

are there different teachers for different groups of people?

are there different teachings?

are there different covenants?

are there different modes of salvation?

thks