Salvation : Is Finished.

[Behold]

All who believe are saved huh?

James 2:19


19 You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble.

Demons can't be saved......nor the Devil.
Wny not? Its because They are not Human.

See, God's Humanity, is "made in our image", the image of 'God".
So, Salvation is only for Humans,.......not for Demons, or Devils, or The Devil.
Salvation is also not for anyone who goes to Hell, as you can't be born again, in Hell.

Now if you have more verses that you can't comprehend, just feel free to post them, and i'll work with you on those also..
NP.

 

[nedsk]

Demons can't be saved......nor the Devil.
Wny not? Its because They are not Human.

See, God's Humanity, is "made in our image", the image of 'God".
So, Salvation is only for Humans,.......not for Demons, or Devils, or The Devil.
Salvation is also not for anyone who goes to Hell, as you can't be born again, in Hell.

Now if you have more verses that you can't comprehend, just feel free to post them, and i'll work with you on those also..
NP.

They believe. You said all who believe will be saved. What won't they be saved? You people just repeat what you've been told. It makes no sense but you dont know what else to say.

 

[David Lamb]

It's more than just believing.

James 2:19

19 You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble.

It's certainly more than merely believing that He exists. Yet believing in the Lord Jesus Christ is what is required to be saved. The jailer at Philippi asked the apostles how he could be saved. Their answer was: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved."

 

[Behold]

You said all who believe will be saved.

Paul said it.
John said it.
Im quoting them.
You are a MaryCult victim, who has no use for the bible, so you wont know that they said it, 2000 yrs before i posted it.

You should go back to your "Marian" sandbox, and let the adults have their conversation, @nedsk

What won't they be saved?

Why cant the Devil and Demons be saved?
Its because Salvation is for the Human Race, and they are not.

 

[nedsk]

It's certainly more than merely believing that He exists. Yet believing in the Lord Jesus Christ is what is required to be saved. The jailer at Philippi asked the apostles how he could be saved. Their answer was: "Believe on te Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved."

The demons believe in God and Jesus. Just faith doesn't cut it. Faith without works is dead. The words can't be more clear. "The apple is red". Youd tell me no it's not.

 

[nedsk]

Paul said it.
John said it.
Im quoting them.
You are a MaryCult victim, who has no use for the bible, so you wont know that they said it, 2000 yrs before i posted it.

You should go back to your "Marian" sandbox, and let the adults have their conversation, @nedsk



Why cant the Devil and Demons be saved?
Its because Salvation is for the Human Race, and they are not.

No they aren't saved because they don't do the will of God. Faith is completed by works. If faith needs completion it's not sufficent by itself.

 

[David Lamb]

The demons believe in God and Jesus. Just faith doesn't cut it. Faith without works is dead. The words can't be more clear. "The apple is red". Youd tell me no it's not.

But I repeat, it is not merely believing that Jesus exists that brings salvation. We need to believe that He is Saviour (as the name Jesus means "Jehovah saves",) that He is the anointed of God (that's what "Christ" means), and that He is our Lord (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ). The demons believe that God the Father exists, that Jesus exists. They don't believe that Jesus is their Saviour. Yes, our faith must have results, for as Paul wrote:

“8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” (Eph 2:8-10 NKJV)

 

[nedsk]

But I repeat, it is not merely believing that Jesus exists that brings salvation. We need to believe that He is Saviour (as the name Jesus means "Jehovah saves",) that He is the anointed of God (that's what "Christ" means), and that He is our Lord (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ). The demons believe that God the Father exists, that Jesus exists. They don't believe that Jesus is their Saviour. Yes, our faith must have results, for as Paul wrote:

“8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” (Eph 2:8-10 NKJV)

So it's not merely believing. Great. Then.we agree faith/belief is not sufficient. I love agreement.

 

[David Lamb]

So it's not merely believing. Great. Then.we agree faith/belief is not sufficient. I love agreement.

You must have misread my post. Faith/belief in the Lord Jesus Christ is sufficient to be saved, as the apostles told the jailer. That faith, if genuine, will result in good works, as Ephesians 2:8-10 says. These good works don't make us any more saved, but they demonstrate the reality of our faith/belief.

 

[brightfame52]

All who believe are saved huh?

James 2:19


19 You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble.

It depends on what you believe.

 

[pandaflower]

The believer always remains "in Christ".......as that is to become born again "as a new creation".......as "one with God".
That is eternal reconciliation, that is God caused.

You need to stop trying to keep yourself saved, and trust in Christ instead.

I don't think they're trying to keep themselves saved.

Their refrain at this point is so limited in its scope , that it appears they're trying to convince us we are not saved .

 

[Behold]

I don't think they're trying to keep themselves saved.

Their refrain at this point is so limited in its scope , that it appears they're trying to convince us we are not saved .

Its both.

See, when a person believes they can lose their Salvation, then they believe that THEY control it, as if THEY caused it... so THEY must keep it by doing, and workikng and self effort.
And they are unstable in their mind about it, because they know they have messed up many times, since they were saved, which proves to them that they can't do it.....they've already failed. So, they are stuck in this endless mental loop of trying to stay saved, yet they've messed up so many times that they have no certainty..........so in that fear, and in that confusion.......all they can do is try to talk about "losing Salvation".
One of the Members here, has been on quite a few forums, where ive been, and ive seen them post their same "i can lose it", 3 or 4 verses......over and over.

If we tell them this........... "Listen, if Jesus does not keep you saved........then WHO DOES".

WHO DOES ????????????

And sometimes this can bring them out of their deception, when they realize that they are trying to be their own savior.
Others tho........you might as well throw a rubber ball against a stone wall, as that is what its like with them...... Truth and Logic just bounce off their determined and hardened point of view that their Salvation is only as good as they are......and that is of course, not God's Gift of Salvation at all.

 

[GodsGrace]

Salvation is the finished work of Jesus on The Cross.
This is not a scholarship that you can earn, or a job you can perform.

Jesus is Salvation, and to receive Him, and become a "new creation in Christ".....eternally forgiven and etenally redeemed, is God's Gift of Grace to the sinner.
Who will have this Gift?
Who will come to Jesus and find God's eternal mercy?

A.) "All who believe in Jesus, shall be saved".

Wow.
You made a truth statement!

Soon you'll ruin it.

 

[Behold]

Wow.
You made a truth statement!

Soon you'll ruin it.

I wont ruin it, because im not the one who denies that Jesus keeps you saved.

 

[GodsGrace]

The believer always remains "in Christ".......as that is to become born again "as a new creation".......as "one with God".
That is eternal reconciliation, that is God caused.

You need to stop trying to keep yourself saved, and trust in Christ instead.

Jesus does not agree with you.

John 15:2
EVERY BRANCH IN ME THAT DOES NOT BESR FRUIT WILL BE CUT OFF.

Who is IN Jesus?
A believer.

A BELIEVER who does not bear fruit will be CUT OFF.

You need to start believing what Jesus taught.

Believers can be cut off.

 

[GodsGrace]

I wont ruin it, because im not the one who denies that Jesus keeps you saved.

You ruined it.
You just can't stop at what Jesus said.
You just have to add your own belief system to what Jesus said.

 

[GodsGrace]

I wont ruin it, because im not the one who denies that Jesus keeps you saved.

And you never replied to the meaning of IT IS FINISHED.

 

[GodsGrace]

You're following a false teacher. Jesus never ever said what you claim.

It's overdue to say this.

You should not be allowed to push a false gospel that intends to condemn by your word all that Jesus the Christ said in his word.

How is it a false gospel when all I do is post the words of Jesus without paragraphs of writing in an attempt to change what Jesus said?

Perhaps You are following a false gospel?

And, as usual, no scripture to back up your false ideas.

 

[Behold]

Jesus does not agree with you.

Jesus understands that being born again, is forever.

Listen, Its offensive to Jesus to come to forums, as you do, and deny that He keeps His redeemed saved.


"but behold, i have to abide, i have things that i must do, to save myself... to try to stay saved".

See that?
That is a denial of Jesus's Sacrifice, and you dont mind doing it., over and over.

= You deny Jesus's Sacrifice when you try to twist your 3 verses, to try to falsly prove that He does not Keep you saved.

 

[Behold]

And you never replied to the meaning of IT IS FINISHED.

What did Jesus finish on the Cross. ?

He finished His "one time Etennal sacrifice for sin"........by offering His Blood and Death to GOD, for you and me.

That is what Jesus "finished" on The Cross.