Satan is NOT the Devil - Cheol is NOT Gehenna (Hell)

[Taken]

@Truly

Agree;
Satan and “the” Devil are one and the same.

“devils” are Other fallen angels that are yoked in allegiance with Satan.

Dragon, old serpent are descriptions, which indicate, power, strength and presence from days of old.
“The” Devil is A Head “positional” description (of Angel / spirit deceivers)
Satan is a Name.

Rev.12
[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
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Rev.20
[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[TLHKAJ]

I'm going to pass on what you are trying to sell here. It sounds like you are confused about alot of things, maybe someone else here can help you sort that all out much better than I can. Thats sort of all over the place.

When someone singles out some scriptures, gives them alternate interpretations (human rationalizing, explaining away, etc) and excludes others claiming they aren't God's Word ....they can create all sorts of false doctrines.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Lazy reading of the Word going on here!

Love to see you back that up with something more than a vacuous accusation.

 

[Muna]

When someone singles out some scriptures, gives them alternate interpretations (human rationalizing, explaining away, etc) and excludes others claiming they aren't God's Word ....they can create all sorts of false doctrines.

I agree with this @TLHKAJ. And I do prefer to reason out of the scriptures and/or connecting the truths in the scriptures to scriptures by laying the same out as I am hear them speak in accord. That, to me is where I get the most blessed (that is what I look for). And I can do that all day long, I was thinking of starting a thread on doing just that, but I don't think others care so much about doing that, it can be somewhat repetitive (reposting some of the same things, a little differently) I suppose, but to me, it's always helped hit them home for me, as I find these paterns emerge in them again and again (variously). Whereas now I love fine tuning how they are laid out more perfectly whenever I can.

Everyone has their own thing I suppose, and this would be mine. I challenge myself constantly in this to connect them (without touching them with my own words) and so when I can do that I am more than satisfied with the work. But if I need to touch them with my own words, I count it as not so well laid out (at least in my own estimation) and so needs more work. But again, that's just me. There are many people that hate that though, and prefer others to use their own words (and to reason from their heads) rather than from the scriptures (rather then examining the paterns alone). But that (to me) is not the approach I want to take. Especially human rationalizing, and explaining away things, that (to me) seems very true. I think we can all do it to one extent or another but I try not to approach the scriptures that way, because I think it can oftentimes aid in corrupting them (if I put that correctly). I am not so good with using my own words anyway, I prefer to use His.

 

[Hiddenthings]

If you dont put on the Helmet of Salvation, you will be deceived.
The Helmet is not your self effort or your prayer life.

Deception happens within the mind behold not external to it.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Love to see you back that up with something more than a vacuous accusation.

There is no need as the subject has been truly proven to be false. All the evidence is within this forum - just look!

 

[Jack]

Revelation 20:2
2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

Amen Jesus!

 

[Hiddenthings]

Revelation 20:2
2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

Amen Jesus!

Where is the dragon bound Jack?

 

[Jack]

Where is the dragon bound Jack?

Ain't happened yet.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Ain't happened yet.

Already been destroyed!

Hebrews 2:14 (ESV): “Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil.”

 

[Jack]

Already been destroyed!

Hebrews 2:14 (ESV): “Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil.”

Then why is this world FILLED with evil??? Satan LOVES it when people don't believe he exists!!!

 

[Hiddenthings]

Then why is this world FILLED with evil??? Satan LOVES it when people don't believe he exists!!!

Yes 1 John 2:16 teaches you this Jack.

 

[Jack]

Yes 1 John 2:16 teaches you this Jack.

Then why does the Bible WARN us about Satan, the Devil???

James 4:7
7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Then why does the Bible WARN us about Satan, the Devil???

James 4:7
7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

Yes 1 John 2:16 teaches you this Jack.

 

[Jack]

Yes 1 John 2:16 teaches you this Jack.

Doesn't say the Devil doesn't exist! That's what Satan's messenger tell us.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Doesn't say the Devil doesn't exist! That's what Satan's messenger tell us.

Yes read 1 John 2:16 Jack. What is in the world?

Is it all or is there something else?

 

[Jack]

Yes read 1 John 2:16 Jack. What is in the world?

Is it all or is there something else?

Why don't you tell us???

 

[Hiddenthings]

Why don't you tell us???

John 2:16 (ESV): “For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world.”​

What did John know that you don"t?

 

[Jack]

John 2:16 (ESV): “For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world.”​

What did John know that you don"t?

Why are you totally ignoring all the NT verses about Satan, the Devil???

 

[Hiddenthings]

Why are you totally ignoring all the NT verses about Satan, the Devil???

Why are you ignorning all the verses about ALL that is in the world?