Satan is NOT the Devil - Cheol is NOT Gehenna (Hell)

[Muna]

Why are you totally ignoring all the NT verses about Satan, the Devil???

You can use the same and show the devil through the same verses


Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Insert the words of John here

1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Mat 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Mat 4:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Same thing,

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

 

[Hiddenthings]

You can use the same and show the devil through the same verses


Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Insert the words of John here

1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Mat 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Mat 4:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Same thing,

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Speaking the "things of men" and not the "things of God"

 

[Jack]

Why are you ignorning all the verses about ALL that is in the world?

Because Satan is behind the mess that you're ignoring.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Because Satan is behind the mess that you're ignoring.

No because there are many adversaies some good and some bad - mostly humans though the Bible does show you good angels being satans. Study Jack - learn and don't remain in ignorance forever

 

[Muna]

Speaking the "things of men" and not the "things of God"

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

1 Cr 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

2 Peter 1:13 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

 

[Jack]

No because there are many adversaies some good and some bad - mostly humans though the Bible does show you good angels being satans. Study Jack - learn and don't remain in ignorance forever

I think you've been listening to Satan.

Revelation 12:9
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

[Hiddenthings]

I think you've been listening to Satan.

Revelation 12:9
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Your ignorance has come full circle

 

[Hiddenthings]

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

1 Cr 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

2 Peter 1:13 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Good set of quotes there Truly!

 

[Muna]

Good set of quotes there Truly!

His words exceed our own everytime.

Edit :fixed sentence, see what I mean?

 

[Jack]

Your ignorance has come full circle

How ironic! I quote Jesus and you call me ignorant!

 

[Hiddenthings]

His words exceed our own everytime.

Edit :fixed sentence, see what I mean?

His Words can only give light when they are opened.

Do you understand what I mean?

 

[Hiddenthings]

How ironic! I quote Jesus and you call me ignorant!

You quote what you do not know

 

[Muna]

His Words can only give light when they are opened.

Do you understand what I mean?

Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

Luke 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

 

[Jack]

You quote what you do not know

I know Jesus, God of the Bible! You should have heeded his warnings!

1 Timothy 4:1
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

 

[Hiddenthings]

Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

Luke 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

Psalm 119:130 (KJV): "The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple."

“Pethach” refers to the opening of a door. Just as a beam of light from an open doorway illuminates a dark room, so the Word of God once received into the natural mind shines light into every corner of understanding (Luke 24:32; Acts 17:3).

It's not enough just to read or hear it, it must be understood.

This is why the apostles not only quoted the OT they expounded it's wisdom as an example of what we must do no matter how difficult.

 

[Muna]

Psalm 119:130 (KJV): "The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple."

“Pethach” refers to the opening of a door. Just as a beam of light from an open doorway illuminates a dark room, so the Word of God once received into the natural mind shines light into every corner of understanding (Luke 24:32; Acts 17:3).

It's not enough just to read or hear it, it must be understood.

This is why the apostles not only quoted the OT they expounded it's wisdom as an example of what we must do no matter how difficult.

Col 4:3 Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:

 

[Hiddenthings]

I know Jesus, God of the Bible! You should have heeded his warnings!

1 Timothy 4:1
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

You come across as someone who simply copies and pastes text. If I were to review all your posts in this forum going back to 2022, I’m confident this point would be clearly confirmed.

Jack, it seems like you’re stuck in your spiritual growth. Your maturity in the faith still needs development. I wonder if perhaps you've lacked guidance, maybe you’ve had to walk this journey alone, without someone to truly teach you how to study and understand God’s Word.

You come across like you live alone and are lonely.

Is this true?

 

[Hiddenthings]

Col 4:3 Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am also in bonds:

What does it mean? Mystery of Christ? What does in bonds mean?

 

[Muna]

What does it mean? Mystery of Christ? What does in bonds mean?

Me and you are not speaking, scriptures only

 

[Hiddenthings]

Me and you are not speaking, scriptures only

So you cannot give a reason of the hope? Understood.

If you can't open the door and you won't let others open the door for you then I guess you are stuck.