Part one
This is another one of those post that you won't want to read. I have followed this thread and wanted to post, but knew what I posted would either be attacked or completely ignored. It doesn't matter either way, since I am leaving the board. Call it crazy nonsense if you want. Sometimes we are too comfortable where we are at in our supposed knowledge and we don't want to approach the hard questions. Sometimes, we do not want to expand and leave our comfort zone because it may cost us: it may cost us everything; all the things we think we know...showing us...we really do not know anything.
Speaking of Job: Who is satan? The dragon. It is simple. Satan is the King of the flesh. King of the dunghill. The dunghill Jesus Christ lifts us up out of. This world. Dung. Full of pride. The very thing lodged in the flesh and prodded by the enemy to make us weak. Paul had a thorn (not just any thorn, a STAKE) that jabbed constantly at that old Man pleading with that old Man to awaken and rear up. That is what kept Paul humble: the constant knowledge that without Christ...Paul could do nothing.
This is the LORD's words: If you have a problem with them...take it up with Him.
Addressing Job is in Blue:
Job 41:1-34 KJV
[1] Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? Can you draw out the Flesh Monster? can you with a cord let down that evil tongue (life and death is in the tongue)
Ezekiel 29:3-5 KJV
[3] Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord God ; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself. It is not the great dragons river. It is Gods, and GOD makes it clear. [4] But I will put hooks in thy jaws, and I will cause the fish of thy rivers to stick unto thy scales, and I will bring thee up out of the midst of thy rivers, and all the fish of thy rivers shall stick unto thy scales. [5] And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; (a field Christ purchased) thou shalt not be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven. (Very important: I have given thee for meat for beast and fowls- the unclean)(CHRIST crucified the flesh on the cross, and gives us NEW MEAT).
Isaiah 37:28-29 KJV
[28] But I know thy abode, and thy going out, and thy coming in, and thy rage against me. [29] Because thy rage against me, and thy tumult, is come up into mine ears, therefore will I put my hook in thy nose, and my bridle in thy lips, and I will turn thee back by the way by which thou camest. The LORD--Christ--has put a hook in the nose, and bridle in the lips of the dragon and all prideful flesh; to draw out that which is against GOD.
Matthew 17:25-27 KJV
[25] He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? [26] Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free. [27] Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee. (Pay the Dunghill what is owed, the children are free.)
Supporting scripture for dunghill: 1 Samuel 2:8 "He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them."
Psalm 113:7 "He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth the needy out of the dunghill;"
[3] Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee? will the flesh make many supplications unto thee? speak soft words unto thee? oh yeah, our flesh makes supplications unto the LORD.
[4] Will he make a covenant with thee? GOD made a covenant with flesh? Oh, yes He did.
Genesis 17:13 KJV
[13] He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
And what is the covenant made? To redeem it.
Genesis 6:18 KJV
[18] But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee. Who is the Ark? THE LORD.
wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? Yes, our flesh(redeemed) becomes his and a servant unto the master. In obedience to His Word. We are servants. Not servants to the flesh, but to GOD. But how did we become servants to God, through the failure of the flesh.
[5] Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him(flesh) for thy maidens?
We think of the flesh as so strong. So defeating and powerful. We think of the dragon as mighty. Unbeatable. Unstoppable. The dragon is but a bird in GODS hand. Small in relation to the power of GOD...which is Jesus Christ and His redemptive blood.