The point of my question is to bring out that your belief there, that is, God preserving people, such as the chosen remnant of Israel, the faithful as you say, is an act of God that demonstrate at least His influence, if not control, upon the situation of these people. For the preserving of them means that, with these people, the possibility of being lost or condemned is taken away. And that would be going against your belief, does it not? And while what you say there about God preserving the remnant is truth, since it goes against your belief, you would be more willing to reject than accept what it entails or implies there, right? And that's sad.It's God blessing those who are faithful to him. For the purpose of this discussion, what is important is that the others who were hardened are still capable of being saved. The remnant are the currently elect, but the currently hardened can join the elect by trusting in Jesus as Messiah.
Still, you just keep insisting that those who were hardened are able to see, hear, and believe. And so I repeat for the nth time, unless you can prove that the scriptures written in John 12:37-40 are false, which defines what it means to be hardened, your teaching there remains to be false.
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