Saying you are without sin verses in 1 John

[Johann]

If you know to do right then do what’s right. Simple. And God can even prevent you from sinning when you do things in the integrity of your heart!

“And God said unto him… Yea, I know that thou didst this in the integrity of thy heart; for I also withheld thee from sinning against me” (Genesis 20:6)




So the Lord can say:

“…Well done, thou good and faithful servant” (Matthew 25:21)



Yes.

Christ takes sins away you know…

Mat 18:15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.
Mat 18:17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.


Go (ὕπαγε)
Do not wait for him to come to you.
Tell him his fault (ἔλεγξον)
Rev., shew him. The verb means, first, to test, try, search out; therefore, to cross-examine with a view of convincing or refuting; thence to rebuke or chide. The Rev. shew is better than tell, which implies merely naming the fault; whereas the injunction is, go and prove to him how he has erred. Wyc., reprove, with snub as explanation.

Someone here, on this forum, needs to show you your fault brother.
J.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Someone here, on this forum, needs to show you your fault brother.

Show me out of scripture what faults I have committed here.

 

[Johann]

God tells us what actions are bad. Man is not the decider of what actions are “bad”.

Are you really that blind to not see how you have contradicted yourself?
J.

 

[Johann]

Show me out of scripture what faults I have committed here.

I have shown you, knowing full well you don't read nor listen.
J.

 

[Johann]

Are you saying that you will soon be getting baptized in the Spirit?

No, Robert is not saying that.
J.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Are you really that blind to not see how you have contradicted yourself?

I am speaking of what is “bad” in God’s eyes. If you deem something bad that really isn’t bad according to the Bible I would avoid that “bad” thing as to not offend you. But you cannot hold someone accountable of offending you in area that is uniquely bad only to you and a select few that the other is not aware of.

“For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.” (Romans 14:20-21)

Eating flesh is not bad in of itself, but if @Johann is offended by meat eaters I will avoid eating steak in his presence. Not because it is a sin, but because @Johann is offended by it.

 

[Behold]

Battling sin vs. Justifying sin:
(An explanation on 1 John 3:6, and 1 John 3:9):

The key to understanding 1 John 3:9 is realizing that this "does not commit sin" is in context to the gnostic belief

You're still posting other people's commentaries or online site teaching, that you can't understand.

Listen, the "cannot commit sin" is the Born Again Spirit, that is In Christ.
Its not "under the law", and this SON OF GOD< exists where Moses Law does not.
"IN CHIRST">... "IN The KOG".
And there is no SIN..........found there where the born again Spirit Exists, as "ONE WITH GOD".

 

[Johann]

And actually I don't so speak for yourself. If you sin every day that is your problem , not mine.

I definitely agree with grace, and have noted that the "preacher" is one or rather, at one with you.
Let me spell it out for you and the "lady" that started this thread, this is cultic, you, and others that are in agreement with you.
J.

 

[Johann]

Matthew 22:36-40
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

hope this helps !!!

And we all fall short on to perfectly agapao our Lord, while sitting in front of a TV and we all fall short in phileo our neighbors whilst walking past that beggar sitting daily at the gates.
J.

 

[Taken]

You started off accurately, and then went on to say you do not sin, more power to you as well

Are you not aware of the differenceS ??
Naturally born in SIN
Commits SIN
SIN Forgiven.<—- Gods Power
Supernaturally born Again. <—- Gods Seed.
SINS NOT Again. <—- Gods Power “IN” the man.

You started off accurately Taken, and then changed your mind,

Utterly foolish. Who said ANYTHING about “changing of the mind”?
Any diligent student of Gods Word, SHOULD KNOW, transformation Offered BY God, is EXPRESSLY:
“by, through, of A man HEART-FULLY confessing Belief TO the Lord God, IN the Lord God
AND
“By, through, of the Lord God Almighty’s Faithful Works in “THAT” man”.

I salute you as well sir, more power to you in your no sin situation, as for me however I fully realize that is not going to happen,

Your sarcasm noted.
Your lack of understanding the majority of the NT noted.

so I will have to rely on the blood sacrifice given in my behalf to put me in a good standing with Jehovah.

Jesus Giving His BODY, for the Life of the World, was His Offering.
Jesus Giving His BLOOD, for the Forgiveness of the World, was His Offering.

His GIVING, does not put you “in good standing with Him”.
YOU agreeing to ACCEPT His Offering is what puts a man “in good standing with Him”.

Seems you not only completely ignored “YOUR PART”...
But offered your sarcasm to me, because I DID my Part.
Also offered your lack of understanding, of Gods Response to me DOING my Part...”as if”...you do not know, it is Accomplished By Gods Power.

 

[Johann]

Yes, Jesus reserved his harshest words for the religious who crushed the people with demands they themselves did not even try to keep. Jesus said concerning them:
Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and saducees which is hypocrisy Luke12:1

Mat 23:27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people's bones and all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.


for ye are like unto whited sepulchres; or "covered with lime", as the Syriac, Arabic, and Persic versions, render it. For the Jews used to mark their graves with white lime, that they might be known: that so priests, Nazarites, and travellers, might avoid them, and not be polluted with them. This appears from various passages in their writings:

"The vineyard of the fourth year, they marked with clods of earth, and an uncircumcised one with dust, ושל קברות בסיד, "and graves with chalk", mixed (with water) and poured (on them (x).)
Of this marking of the graves, the reason of it, the time and manner of doing it, Maimonides (y) gives us this account:

"Whoever finds a grave, or a dead carcass, or anything for the dead that defiles, by the tent he is obliged to put a mark upon it, that it may not be a stumbling to others; and on the intermediate days of a feast, they go out from the sanhedrim, to mark the graves.--With what do they mark? בסיד ממחה, "with chalk infused" in water, and poured upon the unclean place:

they do not put the mark upon the top of the unclean place, (or exactly in it,) but so that it may stand out here and there, at the sides of it, that what is pure may not be corrupted; and they do not put the mark far from the place of the uncleanness, that they may not waste the land of Israel; and they do not set marks on those that are manifest, for they are known to all; but upon those that are doubtful, as a field in which a grave is lost, and places that are open, and want a covering.
Now because when the rains fell, these marks were washed away, hence on the first of Adar (February) when they used to repair the highways, they also marked the graves with white lime, that they might be seen and known, and avoided; and so on their intermediate feast days (z): the reason why they made use of chalk, or lime, and with these marked their graves, was because it looked white like bones (a); so that upon first sight, it might be thought and known what it was for, and that a grave was there: hence this phrase, "whited sepulchres":
which indeed appear beautiful outward; especially at a distance, and when new marked:
but within are full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness; worms and rottenness, which arise from the putrefied carcasses, and are very nauseous and defiling,
Gill

Yup, many of that sort here, I'm afraid.
J.

 

[Taken]

No such thing as belief before conversion.
J.

Odd. Since one does not become converted without first believing.

 

[Episkopos]

No such thing as belief before conversion.
J.

"You believe that there is one God; you do well: the devils also believe, and tremble." James 2:19

 

[Johann]

Do you not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, blind lame and beggars so you may receive your reward in Heaven?
If you have ever fasted, have you so much as hinted to others you are fasting?
If someone stole something of yours, would you give them more besides what they stole, with nothing but love in your heart for them?
If people persecute you, and malign you, would you have nothing but love in your heart for them?
If you are persecuted, do you truly leap for joy, constantly?
If anyone asked to borrow from you, would you give to them without expecting anything back?
Do you truly in your heart love your enemies, those who may be unkind to you, slander you, or malign you?

And will you answer honestly?

No, she can't, she is a god, teaching pastors to be little gods.
J.

 

[Johann]

"You believe that there is one God; you do well: the devils also believe, and tremble." James 2:19

No such thing as belief BEFORE conversion, NO one can come to the Father unless he/she is drawn

Rom_9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

The demons were in the presence of YHVH, beholding His trice holy doxa.
J.

 

[ChristisGod]

Odd. Since one does not become converted without first believing.

Amen

 

[Johann]

Odd. Since one does not become converted without first believing.

Joh_6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”

Rom_9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
J.

 

[Episkopos]

No such thing as belief BEFORE conversion, NO one can come to the Father unless he/she is drawn

Rom_9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

The demons were in the presence of YHVH, beholding His trice holy doxa.
J.

You are confusing conversion with an encounter with the living God. A common mistake among those who have been indoctrinated into a religion.

The story of Ebenezer Scrooge (A Christmas Carol) illustrates a repentance from evil into doing what is right and good. Scrooge was converted to righteousness from wickedness. And this is salvific.

What is too often assumed is that the high calling in Christ to walk as Jesus walked is the ONLY conversion possible. This is as false as can be.

When people realize just how hard it is to enter into the kingdom (listen to Jesus about this not men) then they are not so quick to throw out conversion into righteousness. In fact for most believers this is all that is available to them in their lack of faith.

 

[Taken]

Joh_6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”

Rom_9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
J.

So?
What does drawing to Him, have to do with Believing Before becoming Converted?

 

[Johann]

Odd. Since one does not become converted without first believing.

Depends, if you Arminianism are or lean toward Calvin.
Please read before turning on me.
Source.
Does regeneration come before faith? | GotQuestions.org


Regeneration is the act of God by which a spiritually dead person becomes spiritually alive. Regeneration is the “born again” experience mentioned in John 3:3. The question is when regeneration occurs. Is regeneration a result of salvation or does regeneration result in salvation?

At first glance, this issue might seem to be inconsequential. But it is actually one of the key disagreements in the Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate.

For a Calvinist, if God does not first regenerate people before they trust in Christ as Savior, that faith is something people produced on their own, making salvation dependent on them instead of on God. For an Arminian, if God must regenerate people in order for them to believe, there is no genuine free will, and the call to believe is pointless.

For the Calvinist, Ephesians 2:1 is key: “And you were dead in your trespasses and sins.” Without Christ, people are spiritually dead. Dead people cannot do anything. A spiritually dead person can no more do anything to remedy that situation than a physically dead person can climb out of a grave. Therefore, God must regenerate people, making them spiritually alive, before they can trust in Christ as Savior (John 3:8).

For the Arminian, all of the biblical calls to believe in Christ as Savior are key (e.g., John 3:16; Acts 16:31). If people are unable to believe without God first regenerating them, the biblical calls to believe are pointless.

God does not command people to do what they are incapable of doing. Calling people to believe in Christ when they are incapable of doing so on their own, and then judging them for their lack of faith, would be unfair and unjust. Further, if God must regenerate people in order for them to have faith, essentially “installing” faith in people, God would essentially be forcing people into salvation.

So, does regeneration come before faith? John 6:44 says, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.” Second Corinthians 4:4 declares, “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.” It is undeniable that God must do something to enable people to believe. At the very least, God must draw people to Christ and open their eyes.

The question still remains, however, must God regenerate people, i.e., save them, before they can believe?

Is it possible that God could enable people to believe without regenerating them? Could God draw people, unblind their eyes, soften their hearts, and open their minds, making it possible for them to believe, without actually regenerating them? For the Arminian, the answer is yes, and this “spiritual awakening” is known as prevenient grace.

Again, for the Calvinist, Ephesians 2:1 is the deciding factor. It is impossible to draw, unblind, soften, or open the minds of dead people. God must make people alive, regenerate them, before they can believe. Arminians believe that Calvinists are taking the analogy between physically dead people and spiritually dead people too far. They claim that being spiritually dead only means that people cannot come to Christ on their own and that being spiritually dead is not 100 percent analogous to being a corpse.

This issue has been fiercely debated for hundreds of years. This article is not going to settle it. It is absolutely biblically clear that God must do a work in people before they can believe. The extent of that work is debatable. Calvinists perhaps overestimate what God must do before people can believe. Arminians perhaps underestimate what it means to be spiritually dead.

The key point is that God must do a miraculous work in people’s lives before they are able to believe in Christ unto salvation. As a result, all the glory belongs to God (Romans 11:36). On this, Calvinists and Arminians agree, even if they don’t think they do.

J.