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    صورتي على الفيس حلال ام حرام؟ الشيخ Haitham al-Haddad


    فتاة تسأل اومن ان الله واحد و ان عيسى ليس ابن الله | يوشع ايفانز مترجم




    أبي لا يسمح لي بارتداء الحجاب ماذا أفعل ؟ hijab


     
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    qibla change in islam



    There are more than 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, and each time they pray, they turn their faces in one direction, towards Mecca. The Islamic term for this direction is qibla. When a Muslim prepares to pray, no matter where he is, he turns towards the qibla, the direction of the Kaba. The Kaba is a small cube shaped building in the courtyard of the mosque known as Masjid Al Haram, in the city of Mecca, in the country of Saudi Arabia.


    “For every nation there is a direction to which they face (in their prayers). So hasten towards all that is good. Wheresoever you may be, God will bring you together (on the Day of Resurrection). Truly, God is Able to do all things. And from wheresoever you start forth (for prayers), turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid-al-Haram (at Mecca), that is indeed the truth from your Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.” (Quran 2:148-149)


    Muslims do not worship the Kaba, or its contents, it is simply a focal point. Muslims worship One God, the Most Merciful, and the Most Wise. God decreed that when Muslims pray they all face one direction. It is a sign of unity that encapsulates the unity embedded in the religion of Islam.


    The Arabic word for prayer is salah and it demotes a connection between the believer and God; when all believers face the same direction it adds an extra dimension to the connection. The prayer connects the believers to God and the qibla connects the believers to one another. It has been said that if one could observe all the Muslims at prayer we would be able to see lines of worshippers bowing and prostrating like the petals of a flower opening and closing in unison.


    The qibla was not always oriented towards Mecca. The first Muslims prayed towards the al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. Around sixteen months after Prophet Muhammad and his followers migrated from Mecca to the city of Medina, the qibla was changed to the Kaba. According to accounts by Prophet Muhammad's companions, the change happened very suddenly. During the noon prayer, Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, received a revelation from God instructing him to, "Turn your face towards the Masjid al Haram".


    “Thus, we have made you real believers in Islamic Monotheism, true followers of Prophet Muhammad and his legal ways, a just nation, witnesses over mankind and the Messenger a witness over you. And We made the Qibla (prayer direction towards Jerusalem) which you used to face, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (i.e. disobey the Messenger). Indeed, it was great (heavy) except for those whom God guided. And God would never make your prayers to be lost (i.e. your prayers offered towards Jerusalem). Truly, God is full of kindness, the Most Merciful towards humankind.”


    “Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qibla (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid- al-Haram (at Mecca). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction...” (Quran 2:143-144)


    Changing the direction of prayer establishes Mecca as the fixed central point for worship. It establishes a common sense or purpose.


    Throughout the centuries, mathematicians and astronomers have established correct ways to determine the qibla (direction) from any point on the earth’s surface. There are two precise moments each year when the sun is directly above the Kaba, thus the direction of shadows in any sunlit place will point away from the qibla. There are also two moments per year when the sun is directly over the exact opposite position of the Kaba, thus pointing towards the qibla.


    It is important the Muslims make every effort to face the right direction when praying; however, slight deviations do not invalidate a person’s prayer. Prophet Muhammad said, “What is between the east and the west is qibla”.[1] Nowadays it is easy to locate the qibla. It is a simple matter to look at a map and draw a line between your location and the city of Mecca. Compasses and computer programs that locate the qibla are readily available and most mosques throughout the world have a niche in the wall to indicate the qibla.


    Islam is a religion of unity. Muslims are united by their belief in One God. They are one brotherhood united in the language and ritual of prayer and united by the direction of their worship. The qibla is not only about degrees of latitude or longitude it is about unity. It is about humankind united in the worship of the One God, Creator, and Sustainer of the universe


    منصور و اسئلة فتاة مسيحية عن المساواة فى الاسلام ركن المتحدثين مترجم





    Change Of Qibla From Jerusalem To Kaaba By Nouman Ali


     
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    the Universe

    At a time when the science of Astronomy was still primitive, the expansion of the universe was described in Quran:

    “And it is We who have built the Universe with [Our creative] power and keep expanding it.” (Quran 51:47)

    The fact that the universe is expanding was discovered in the last century. The physicist Stephen Hawking in his book ‘A Brief History of Time’ writes, “The discovery that the universe is expanding was one of the great intellectual revolutions of the 20th century.”.

    The Quran mentioned the expansion of the universe even before the invention of the telescope!
    ركن المتحدثين الداعية محمد حجاب و زائرين فى الهايد

    بارك مترجم





     
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    Mountains

    The Quran draws our attention to a very important characteristic of mountains:

    “Did We not make the earth a resting place? And the mountains as stakes?” (Quran 78:6-7)

    The Quran indicates that mountains have deep roots by using the word stakes to describe them. In fact mountains do have deep roots, and the word stakes is an accurate description for them. A book titled ‘Earth’ by Geophysicist Frank Press explains that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under the surface of the earth. Mount Everest (pictured below), the height of which is approximately 9 km above ground, has a root deeper than 125 km.

    The fact that mountains have deep ‘stake’ like roots was not known, until after the development of the theory of plate tectonics in the beginning of the 20th century.



     
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    Sky’s Protection

    The sky plays a crucial role in protecting the earth. The sky protects the earth from the lethal rays of the sun. If the sky did not exist then the sun’s radiation would have killed off all life on earth. It also acts like a blanket wrapped around the earth, to protect it from the freezing cold of space. The temperature just above the sky is approximately -270oC. If this temperature was to reach earth then the planet would freeze over instantly. The sky also protects life on earth by warming the surface through heat retention (greenhouse effect), and reducing temperature extremes between day and night[5]. These are some of the many protective functions of the sky.

    The Quran asks us to consider the sky in the following verse:

    “We made the sky a protective ceiling. And yet they are turning away from Our signs!” (Quran 21:32)

    The Quran points to the sky’s protection as a sign of God. The protective properties of the sky were discovered by scientific research conducted in the 20th century.




     
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    GINOLJc, to all.
    this is nothing new, the "expanding" universe. Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself.

    PICJAG.
     
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    again nothing new, Job 28:9 "He putteth forth his hand upon the rock; he overturneth the mountains by the roots.
    PICJAG.
     
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    Again nothing new. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    heaven here is the sky around the earth.

    PICJAG.
     
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    See the video
    You will be shocked
    Your words are completely wrong
    Debate: Dr. Zakir Naik vs. Dr William Campbell - The Quran ...
     
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    Iron

    Iron is not natural to the earth. It did not form on the earth but came down to earth from outer space. This may sound strange but it’s true. Scientists have found that billions of years ago the earth was stuck by meteorites. These meteorites were carrying Iron from distant stars which had exploded[4].

    The Quran says the following on the origin of Iron:

    “We sent down Iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind.” (Quran 57:25)

    God uses the words ‘sent down’ for Iron. It is clear from the verse that Iron is not an earthly material, but was sent down for the benefit of humanity. The fact that Iron came down to earth from outer space is something which could not be known by the primitive science of the 7th century.


     
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    فتاة مسيحية تعتنق الاسلام و تبكي مع الداعيه شمسي مترجم


    الداعيه شمسي يشرح لشاب مسيحي محمد في الانجيل مترحم new




    صبي يعتنق الاسلام مع الداعية شمسي مترجم ||||| الهايد بارك





    شاب يسال ذاكر نايك لماذا نقلد النبي محمد | مترجم
     
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    Origin of Life

    Water is essential for all living things. We all know that water is vital to life but the Quran makes a very unusual claim:

    We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe? (Quran 21:30)

    In this verse water is pointed out as the origin of all life. All living things are made of cells. We now know that cells are mostly made up of water[3]. For example, 80% of the cytoplasm (basic cell material) of a standard animal cell is described as water in biology textbooks.

    The fact that living things consist mostly of water was discovered only after the invention of the microscope. In the deserts of Arabia, the last thing someone would have guessed is that all life came from water.

    The Sun and Moon.

    Whereas the Bible talks of the sun and the moon as two lights differing only in size, the Qur’an distinguishes between them by the use of different terms: light (noor) for the moon, and lamp (siraaj) for the sun.

    “Did you see how Allah created seven heavens, one above the other, and made in them the moon a light and the sun a lamp?” Qur’an, 78:12-13

    The moon is an inert body which reflects light, whereas the sun is a celestial body in a state of permanent combustion producing both light and heat.
    Stars and Planets

    The word ‘star’ (najm) in the Qur’an ( 86:3 ) is accompanied by the adjective thaaqib which indicates that it burns and consumes itself as it pierces through the shadows of the night. It was much later discovered that stars are heavenly bodies producing their own light like the sun.

    In the Qur’an, a different word, kawkab, is used to refer to the planets which are celestial bodies that reflect light and do not produce their own light like the sun.

    “We have adorned the lowest heaven with ornaments, the planets.” Qur’an, 37:6







    Dr. Zakir Naik - Does God exist?
     
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    Scientists and .....!




    Mammon (means money ... there is a common mistake ...)


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    ISAIAH 17:6 Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two [or] three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four [or] five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel.
    ISAIAH 17:7 At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.
    ISAIAH 17:8 And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect [that] which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.
    ISAIAH 17:9 In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation. (substitute the phrase "children of isreal" for "jewish people", there is a problem with the language here, God typically curses those he does not judge).

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    (sudden death globally 12/21/2020)
    (The Gospel isn't Technically Referencing the Mechanical Reasons for those figures that is readily discernible)

    1947 Roswell + 50 Years Jubilee = 1997 Turin Shroud of Jesus (Four or Five)
    1997 + 23 Years for 2300 of Daniel = 12/21/2020 (Two or Three)

    Daniel's 62nd to 69th Week = 49/50 Jubilee
    Daniel's 69th to 70th Week = 2300 Days or 23 years (2Peter3:8)
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    (God's Law is "70x7" or 490 years) (euthanasia notes*)
    Daniel's 62nd to 69th Week = Joseph and Three Days in Genesis 40
    Daniel's 69th to 70th Week = Joseph and Three Days in Revelation 11

    Daniel's 62 to 69 week = 430 Years (Exodus 12:40)
    Daniel's 69 to 70 week = 60 Years (Luke 24:13)

    LUKE 24:13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem [about] threescore furlongs.

    (The Allah (Ahijah the Prophet), was a name god used before, God said the Name of the Angel "EMMANUEL", the name is not for Jesus. The Reason is, this was a rebuke for the measurement God issued from the Revelation of John .............. for a rebuke God used Lazarus and for a rebuke God used 9/11/2001 Falling Man Moses)

    9/11/2001 + 60 years to Halley's Comet, Issac Newton's Prophecy 2061 A.D.
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    490 Years is the Legal Answer. God is answering the Controversy of forbidding his mercies during the divisions of Daniel. Specifically, the end of these day counts (daniel's days) ... 2300 ... "1290 and 1335 (flight 370) .......... on 12/21/2020 ........... (God may do nothing at all) (The Law of "3 Days of Darkness" has already been completed, so nothing would happen) ................. Could be a calamity like an earthquake or nothing at all.

    (Nothing at all Notes on Euthanasia*)

    God has already began a process on 9/11/2001, of moving the earth around, which would indicate his mercies. God may finish the entirety of the action of moving the earth, with nothing to show for it. because of this "dead flesh" issue, because of humanities sin against god ................ now .................. humanity will eventually die off, and spiritually this unforeseen death is becoming more noticeable ............... so it will be more appealing for satan to kill off what it sees as god's enemies for a judgment, but in reality this is only an extension of its pleasure. so there will be wars and conflicts.

    (Everything will be resolved on 12/21/2020, with nothing happening at all)

    Satan will keep killing in a desperate attempt to answer God about the "sign of divorce" and "dead flesh", but it will kill unfaithfully for its pleasure. Satan may or may not succeed in answer god, probably not, because it will never kill enough if it does not kill the massive jewish populations centers on earth. (dead or alive, as I said the jewish/ethnic people don't have the pleasure of my corpse, because "nothing will continue to happen", that is the real victory, but before that time, I understand the Flight 370 was a controversy, but nothing is nothing ............. you will have the benefit of referring to me as a false witness as you continue to pleasure yourselves with me but understand .................. wars and terrorisms will continue)

    (Everything That God was going to do, without mankind's action in the "dead fleish" issue was an is completed at the 9/11/2001 Falling Man Moses ................... God will do nothing else until you answer god about this "dead flesh problem", and god gave you an example on 9/11/2001 in the center of one of the worlds two jewish massive populations)

    (You need to replace the name Jew and Jewish people, in the quran with the word Mammon, which is to say "heavy heart" because that is the nature of the conflicts satan is creating in attempting to answer god, rather then to kill the jewish populations massive populations quickly and cleanly)

    (Otherwise)

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    bintjbeil.com/images/slide/020702_deheishe_boys.html

    (Satan will go for many peoples and nations for war, those with "heavy hearts", in its desperate attempt to answer God ............ why is this good? .............. Rather then just killing off those massive jewish populations you mean ............... God is still saving people, and as long as that is happening and the people are faithful, in some small part, Satan won't go for the easy answer to kill the jews to answer god, it will go after the faithful, and humanity will die worthless but a great many will be saved out of this dying carcass, think of the mammoth we've discussed)

    (you will die, every jew and ethnic will die 99.9999 percent of you from the face of the earth, and God will no longer judge you, but at least there is hope, "I am hope if nothing else" .............. hope that if you remain faithful and suffer faithfully, then there is the hope if nothing more then for salvation, of how ever little ................ what satan does not have is a flesh and blood judgment)

    (doesn't me, me personally, that I will live to be an old man, but don't care, to be old is holy to be young is holy, but, regardless of me, dead or alive, satan has no way but to answer god and will continue in this predictable pattern....and that is good...............now there is a controversy that will be resolved on 12/21/2020, perhaps with nothing happening at all, god is expending energy just to euthanize jews and ethnics when he is simply wasting his time doing that, and that is humanities reward, no signs no visions and no 12/21/2020, but we'll have to wait and see, even if nothing happens, the gain, in offering God, is the real goal)

    (we'll do ethnic euthanasia or a 10 hour walk tomorrow, since it will rain today in the city of philadelphia, and that is that, until humanity is deceased)
     
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    The Day and Night
    The Qur’anic description of the sequence of day and night would, in itself, be rather commonplace were it not for the fact that it is expressed in terms that are today highly appropriate. The Qur’an uses the verb kawwara in chapter az-Zumar to describe the way the night ‘winds’ or ‘coils’ itself around the day and the day around the night.
    “He coils the night upon the day and the day upon the night.” Qur’an, 39:5
    The original meaning of the verb kis to coil a turban around the head. This is a totally valid comparison; yet at the time the Qur’an was revealed, the astronomical data necessary to make this comparison were unknown. It is not until man landed on the moon and observed the earth spinning on its axis, that the dark half of the globe appeared to wind itself around the light and the light half appeared to wind itself around the dark.





    The Solar
    The notion of a settled place for the sun is vividly described in chapter Yaa Seen of the Qur’an:
    “The sun runs its coarse to a settled place That is the decree of the Almighty, the All Knowing.” Qur’an, 36:38
    “Settled place” is the translation of the word mustaqarr which indicates an exact appointed place and time. Modern astronomy confirms that the solar system is indeed moving in space at a rate of 12 miles per second towards a point situated in the constellation of Hercules ( alpha lyrae ) whose exact location has been precisely calculated. Astronomers have even give it a name, the solar apex.





     
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    (The Question is about "Song Books")

    (Ishmael, was Abraham's First Born at 99 years of age ............. Issac was Abraham's Second Born at 100 years of age (at that time, God revealed the Lamb, indicating he would kill only the first born (at the exodus) of all the "genetic lines" with no value, If God did not reveal the Lamb, then, all those "genetic lines" would be terminated)

    ("Isreal" was unclean during the commotion after Moses left when they were called to be faithful, so God published in Joshua 12, a measurement he did not use (affording euthanasia to all the "ites", were killed off, Genesis 15:18-21) (The "First Born in those Lands, that stood before Isreal, and in being unfaithful "the isrealites/jews and whoever else, did not see god's mercies, the just fell into more sin, in their war with god)
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    (Jesus the Lamb, did not make a division like with "Abraham" between the First Born, and the rest of "Isreal" ................ in the New Testament, Jesus was not in the tomb, and all those "genetic lines" will have to die, there is no non-specific division, 99.9999% will have to die. or. This generation can die worthless, will not be used, before all the generations before it, a tiny bit since the beginning of time)
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    (The Song Books, Why is this important) (or perhaps why they should be the most unimportant books?)

    (Before God wrote the Book of Isaiah, 1 Kings 11:29, god blessed the teaching of Ahijah the Prophet, but God also allowed the Quran to be corrupted ............... there is a reason for that ........... God will not do certain activities on earth, or anything much, without this "dead flesh" argument being resolved:

    1. the prophecy of Isaiah was written about the "son of man", god identifies his mercies to an individual, to answer the sin of mankind.
    2. the prophecy of Ahijah was written about "Isreal", this was before God finished the rebuke with the book of "revelation" the measurement of the Angel John, god does not automatically use, the measure god uses is still only the Book of Daniel.
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    God republished the "Book of Enoch" (or book of angels, since only the lord's body is disputed), humanity will live just as it is now until it dies (dead or alive don't view me personally as important) (state funded inces/rap/murder for pleasure is real, and god is paying for that sin and pleasure as I am around, this will be resolved soon, secondarily, humanity lives for a few more years and then it will die, that is perfectly natural) (until god reacts there are many valid conclusions) (best thing for now let the suicide for pleasure continue, to see if the measure is increased for jewish and ethnic euthanasia next year on 12/21/2020)

    (The Book of Enoch seems to be some missing info from the psalms books, God allow satan to wrestle with his word, so, some detail is simply displaced)
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    (God republished some material related to "proverbs?", perhaps the "urantia book")
    (God never abandoned the Dead Flesh Argument, those genetic lines have to die, and this must be sufficiently killed off or god does not engage in certain behavior, this is limited only to the son of man, or perhaps nothing at all (Daniel's Final Week is the "Seventh or Seven Days of Creation", so nothing at all, or sudden death is possible so we'll see, soon)
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    (they haven't removed beyond state incest with me, or at best pedophilia with ethnic and jewish children for their pleasure, in hurting me. That and adversity. They have not used imprisonment or capital punishment officially, just ethnics and jews for pleasure, and occasionally anyone else, this will be resolved on 12/21/2020) (this issues of suicide with me) (or perhaps nothing at all, sudden death, when you have my corpse for your sin and pleausre, that is your answer from god you can simply die off and you will, so, keep trying, (whistles), you need to be persistent, we do nightly walks and stuff, for this suicides)
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    Genocide and, political, and those genetic lines, euthanasia is the only mercy God will afford me. Its the only effective answer given your spiritual limitation, and condition with God. (you simply haven't hurt me enough, or, you haven't been more "official", for God to give me any authority for immediate euthanasia, or allow me to die, you obtain my corpse that is is your answer from God, we'll have to continue to see what is necessary before, 12/21/2020)

    (Speaking of Mercies: The "Dead Flesh Argument" does reach into many peoples that may not be easy to identify by ethnicity. Weather I can do that or not is not the point. God will provide, based on my discernment a few places/countries with the opportunity for coming to these conclusions in a clean way, and they will. Weather they remain faithful or not, is not my concern. I will euthanasia those genetic lines because they get in my way, if god decides that, but, that would be the only reason, and, for the good of the people in these issues...........Will I eventually stop these people from being a false witness or committing their own suicide? NO, God mercies will eventually pass out of my hands, and then that is it, if it concerns, me or god more or less then we'll see) (first thing genocide, then addressment for competency of the political people (so that can mean genocide for them), these are God's only effect positions on these issues, and they are my positions)

    (humanity hasn't been given my "corpse", and that will resolve global euthanasia 12/21/2020, and perhaps sin god is no longer concerned, nuclear war may begin, because god is not using a position for the jewish people, so for pleasure. for that we'll have to continue to see what becomes necessary)

    (did have recently an improvement in state pedophila in sexual solicitation with some negro children next door to me, and, with a video cam or directly with a disposable camera at least this give them the opportunity go forward in their pleasure of false witnessing, imprisonment or death is an improvement, in your suicide with my body and testimony...............we'll have to see if more is done to me for pleasure, or if things remain the same, or perhaps in the process of that,I will tell more of the truth to the authorities to the public, all of this will have to see, what becomes necessary)

    (building can fall in new york state and jerusalem, or perhaps nothing, everything will be resolved with "my corpse", "global suicide", and, "nuclear exchanges" on 12/21/2020) (and before that, its an improvement to see imprisonment or death for the sake of your pleasure only, but as things are right now, everything is good) (we'll see about "evidences" for results, future note)


    (One Week of Daniel in Which God uses the "Ensign of Nations according to Isaiah" can be from 12/14/2020 to 12/21/2020, before you die globally, you will be encouraged to have nuclear exchanges, or perhaps, the final week is substituted for a jubilee, only god can answer that)

    (http://i.imgur.com/UiogWZu.png ............ then you will just find and kill me ............... didn't say that was a problem for me ............. God makes the decision on 12/21/2020 for global suicide, the only thing you will gain right now, is confidence in that, nothing more, no signs, no nothing, just my suffering (and there is pleasure in that)
     
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    (The Question was about the Song Books)

    (God created this judgment plan and earth, holy as it is, with the specific intent of saving only a few individuals from generation to generation) (from the beginning of time, to the very end of time, the end of this judgment)

    (stop there)
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    (Any and all of God's activities are in part construed as "payment for sin", and that is the reason why God did not remove the "dead flesh argument", of concealing his mercies (the rainbow), because of "dead flesh", from the beginning of creation to the end of time)

    (stop there)
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    (Unfortunately,"the son of man", in part is construed as "payment for sin", and God can and would be performing a very unclean work, of promoting a mental illness with those "souls" in the judgment program, by performing any work that rewards humanity with his mercies in the "dead flesh argument" of man's conviction with god in his generations)

    (God has expended so much energy already paying for your suicide with Moses, that nothing much will happen, and humanity will just go on living for a little longer, so don't expect anything written in the book of revelation to be acknowledged, no space ships, no portals, no specials works from Moses, or from God, but some earth calamity)

    (stop there)
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    (Satan is pleasure based mostly, and very rarely does anything beyond that. So there are direct ways of answering God about dead flesh, nuclear weapons used on the jews or on other countries ................... but in reality ................... Satan will only seek to feed its pride and pleasure, and for that reason will not answer God in a clean way but will instead seek to answer God in its pleasure, so for that reason it will go after the people with heavy hearts, and it will use mammon/money, or anything else to cause a controversy to those ends ............... it knows it will die but that is not the first goal it only its pleasure)

    (stop there)
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    (Humanity will just live a little longer in sin, if that is its only answer for God, and my only position is "dead or alive", as in, not important, God will expend so much energy in your pleasure until I am not important anymore, and that is the way things should be)

    (When Nguyen Van Lem died, people thought that maybe he was allowed to die because he didn't wear clean cloths, or maybe because he didn't eat three meals a day, no ............... he died because God was finished toying with your pleasure, in affording you the opportunity to do that)

    (stop there)
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    (Everything will be resolved on 12/21/2020, with the Christian Fantasy Ending, without so much as a peep from God, and then after that, you have years more of humanities foolishness before death)

    (its true that, those genetic lines have no value with god, but that is satan's answer for god, that isn't my answer or god's answer)

    (Thats why Prayer is necessary, God puts the prospect of the people left on earth their ability to take over the specific design of God saving a few people from each generation, for the multitude of this generation, in his mercy, but also as an accusation against God, at the most, and bulk of god giving his gospel over time with man since creation) (Everything about God, and Sudden Death, Everything about Zombies, or Aliens, will be Forgotten Soon) (We simply don't know for sure, because until God reacts, a number of conclusions are legally valid, and legally true) (Daniel's Weeks were written in the controversy of "dead flesh" (so no immediate value) (Daniel's Days were written without controversy to the son of man (so immediate value) (12/21/2020, people expect Moses to die only from God's Action, and nothing more, that is a perfectly sound argument and we'll see)

    (Daniel's Days terminates on 12/21/2020)
    (Daniel's Weeks, maybe later think Halley's Comet)

    (Shoko Asahara, predicted in 2047 that China would launch a nuclear campaign for its sole benefit against europe and the americas, ofcourse that probably isn't true, but that just shows you, that Moses dies or is dead a long time before that)

    (at the Vietnam Memorial, sutton and macdade blvd. in Folsom PA, near my address, your instructions were to blow my brains out there, on national tv if possible, you need to understand that in answering God, that everything was resolved a generation ago with Moses, what you have now is just global suicide, a final shame, that Moses does not play a part in, that is one legal conclusion until we see (Moses die on 12/21/2020), what happens soon)

    (its not scientists being euthanized in apparent suicides, as the internet reports, it is people making prophecies, and we will make that statement to think about)
     
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    The Message of Jesus

    The Prophets of the Old Testament such as Abraham, Noah and Jonah never preached that God is part of a Trinity, and did not believe in Jesus as their saviour. Their message was simple: there is one God and He alone deserves your worship. It doesn’t make sense that God sent Prophets for thousands of years with the same essential message, and then all of a sudden he says he is in a Trinity and that you must believe in Jesus to be saved.

    The truth is that Jesus preached the same message that the Prophets in the Old Testament preached. There is a passage in the Bible which really emphasizes his core message. A man came to Jesus and asked “Which is the first commandment of all?”Jesus answered, “The first of all the commandments is Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.’’[Mark 12:28-29]. So the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said ‘I am God, worship me’, but he didn’t. He merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.

    Some people claim that Jesus came to die for the sins of the world. But consider the following statement of Jesus: This is eternal life: to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you sent. I have glorified you on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.[John 17:3-4]. Jesus said this before he was caught and taken to be crucified. It is clear from this verse that Jesus did not come to die for the sins of the world, as he finished the work God gave him before he was taken to be crucified.

    Also Jesus said “salvation is of the Jews” [John 4:22]. So according to this we don’t need to believe in the Trinity or that Jesus died for our sins to attain salvation since the Jews don’t have these beliefs.
    5. The Early Christians

    Historically there were many sects in early Christianity who had a range of beliefs regarding Jesus[1]. Some believed Jesus was God, others believed Jesus was not God but partly divine, and yet others believed he was a human being and nothing more. Trinitarian Christianity which is the belief that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one in three persons became the dominant sect of Christianity, once it was formalized as the state religion of the Roman Empire in the 4th Century. Christians who denied Jesus being God were persecuted by the Roman Authorities[2]. From this point onwards the Trinitarian belief became widespread amongst Christians. There were various movements in early Christianity which denied the Trinity, among the more well known of them is Adoptionism and Arianism.

    Dr Jerald Dirks who is an expert on early Christianity had this to say on the subject: Early Christianity was quite conflicted about the issue of the nature of Jesus. The various Adoptionist positions within early Christianity were numerous and at times dominate. One can even speculate that Arian and Nestorian Christianity might well be an extremely sizable source within Christianity today, if it were not for the fact that these two branches of Christianity, which were located primarily in the middle east and in North Africa were so similar to the Islamic teaching regarding the nature of Jesus that they quite naturally were absorbed into Islam at the beginning of the seventh century.”[3]

    Since there were so many sects in early Christianity, each with different beliefs about Jesus and with their own versions of the Bible, which one can we say was following the true teachings of Jesus?

    It doesn’t make sense that God sends countless Prophets like Noah, Abraham and Moses to tell people to believe in one God, and then suddenly sends a radically different message of the Trinity which contradicts his previous Prophets teachings. It is clear that the sect of Christianity who believed Jesus to be a human Prophet and nothing more, were following the true teachings of Jesus. This is because their concept of God is the same as that which was taught by the Prophets in the Old Testament.
    Jesus in Islam

    The Islamic belief about Jesus demystifies for us who the real Jesus was. Jesus in Islam was an extraordinary individual, chosen by God as a Prophet and sent to the Jewish people. He never preached that he himself was God or the actual son of God. He was miraculously born without a father, and he performed many amazing miracles such as healing the blind and the lepers and raising the dead – all by God’s permission. Muslims believe that Jesus will return before the day of Judgement to bring justice and peace to the world. This Islamic belief about Jesus is similar to the belief of some of the early Christians. In the Quran, God addresses the Christians about Jesus in the following way:

    O People of the Book, do not commit excesses in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers and do not speak of a ‘Trinity’– stop [this], that is better for you– God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust. [4:171]

    Islam is not just another religion. It is the same message preached by Moses, Jesus and Abraham. Islam literally means ‘submission to God’ and it teaches us to have a direct relationship with God. It reminds us that since God created us, no one should be worshipped except God alone. It also teaches that God is nothing like a human being or like anything that we can imagine. The concept of God is summarized in the Quran as:

    “Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)[4]

    Becoming a Muslim is not turning your back to Jesus. Rather it’s going back to the original teachings of Jesus and obeying him.




     
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    Among the achievements of modern science is the “conquest” of space which has resulted in mans journey to the moon. The prediction of this event surely springs to mind when we read the chapter ar-Rahmaan in the Qur’an:
    “O assembly of Jinns and men, if you can penetrate the regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate them! You will not penetrate them except with authority.”
    Qur’an,55:33
    Authority to travel in space can only come from the Creator of the laws which govern movement and space. The whole of this Qur’anic chapter invites humankind to recognize God’s beneficence.

    At this point, we must ask ourselves the following question: How could an uneducated man in the middle of the desert accurately tackle so many and such varied subjects at a time when mythology and superstition reigned supreme? How could he so skillfully avoid every belief that was proven to be totally inaccurate many centuries later?


    THE SEAL OF ALL THE PROPHETS MUHAMMAD PBUH - Muhammad Abdul Jabbar | ALQADRMEDIA
     
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    Greetings, yasoo. When you think about it, penetrating to the Underworld and rising again in spirit to tell about it is an even greater feat, and this is what Christ Jesus did on behalf of the righteous Old Testament saints when He led captivity captive and delivered them out of Hades and up into Heaven, even to the very throne of God Himself.

    I think this far exceeds the conquest of space, and it is in our Christian Bibles! I recommend you read some good commentaries on it. In our tradition, it is usually called the "harrowing of Hell," though the term Hell there is a bit of a misnomer. It was actually in Hades/Sheol that the saints of the Old Testament resided until Christ delivered them into Heaven with Him upon His resurrection from the dead.

    Blessings in Christ, and I appreciate the kind spirit with which you post!
     
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    The Quran or the Bible: Which is God's Word? - Ahmed Deedat vs. Anis Shorrosh

     
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