Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #5, Book of Acts

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theefaith

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Sure, we do not have to argue it. The trinity is not in the Bible. Nowhere does it say anything like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit who are co-eternal, co-substantial and co-equal - and if you don't believe this you cannot be saved. All the Epistles identify God as the Father. And you have to wonder why this idol is used as an obstacle for people to follow Jesus?
Yes it does
Acts 2:42
Matt 16:18
Taught by the apostles
Bound on earth bound in heaven
 

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No. God is eternal. Jesus died. That is how you know he is not God.

only Jesus humanity died not his divinity
Fully God and fully man
Two natures in one Jesus

Dogma or de fide or thee faith
Catholic and divine faith
Divine revelation

71. Jesus Christ is the True God and True Son of God.
72. Christ assumed a real body, not an apparent body.
73. Christ assumed not only a body but also a rational soul.
74. Christ was truly generated and born of a daughter of Adam, the Virgin Mary.
75. The Divine and the human natures are united hypostatically in Christ, that is, joined to each other in one Person.
76. Christ Incarnate is a single, that is, a sole Person. He is God and man at the same time.
77. The God-Logos is connected with the flesh by an inner, physical or substantial unification.
Christ is not the bearer of God, but is God really.
78. The human and the divine activities predicated of Christ in Holy Writ and in the Fathers may
not be divided between two persons or hypostases, the Man-Christ and the God-Logos, but must be attributed to the one Christ, the Logos become Flesh. It is the Divine Logos, who suffered in the flesh, was crucified, died, and rose again.
79. The Holy Virgin is the Mother of God since she truly bore the God-Logos become Flesh.
80. In the Hypostatic Union each of the two natures of Christ continues unimpaired, untransformed and unmixed with the other.
81. Each of the two natures in Christ possesses its own natural will and its own natural mode of
operation.
82. The Hypostatic Union of Christ’s human nature with the Divine Logos took place at the moment of conception.
83. The Hypostatic Union will never cease.
84. The Hypostatic Union was effected by the Three Divine Persons acting in common.
85. Only the Second Divine Person became Man.
86. Not only as God but also as man Jesus Christ is the natural Son of God.
87. The God-Man Jesus Christ is to be venerated with one single mode of Worship, the absolute Worship of Latria which is due to God alone.
88. Christ’s Divine and Human characteristics and activities are to be predicated of the one
Word Incarnate.
89. Christ was free from all sin, from original sin as well as from all personal sin.
90. Christ’s human nature was passible (capable of sensation & suffering).
91. The Son of God became man in order to redeem men.
92. Fallen man cannot redeem himself.
93. The God-Man Jesus Christ is a High Priest.
94. Christ offered Himself on the Cross as a true and proper sacrifice.
95. Christ by His Sacrifice on the Cross has ransomed us and reconciled us with God.
96. Christ did not die for the predestined only.
97. Christ’s Atonement does not extend to the fallen angels.
98. Christ, through His Passion and Death, merited reward from God.
99. After His Death, Christ’s soul, which was separated from His Body, descended into the
underworld.
100. On the third day after His Death Christ rose gloriously from the dead.
101. Christ ascended Body and Soul into Heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father.
 

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There was only God in the beginning and the word was there the word was God
 

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Are you ever going to address these?

Mk 2:5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.

6 But there was certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,

7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Jesus forgives sins, he must be God

Jesus changes the commandments He must be God matt 5:22

Only God can work miracles Jesus must be God cos he works miracles
Even the wind and sea obey him
 

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Why does the trinity need to be in scripture
Christians do not believe by scripture alone, but by divine revelation the fullness from Christ to his church the apostles
Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles we must believe

the Holy trinity is a mystery
The union of Christ and his church is also a mystery Eph 5:32
The church is the body of Christ but this too is not clear in scripture but in the teaching of the apostles
Fundamentalism is blinded by thick black scales as Saul who also thought he was acting righteously and doing Gods will but was not, as you who attack the church, you are attacking Christ! Acts 9:4 Saul Saul why do you persecute me!
 

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Thomas answered and said to Him,
“My Lord and my God!
Jesus said to him,
Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed.
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.

(John 20:28-29)​


  • Thomas calls Jesus "God"
  • Jesus says Thomas has "believed"


case closed; Christ is God.
rejecting this is blasphemy; you call Christ a liar.
 

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Not in the Book of Acts.

i'm sorry i didn't realize *your bible* only has one book in it.
the rest of us have the full text.

have fun dying in your sins
 

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hey Mssr. lost blasphemer damned to hell for your unbelief ((see John 8:24)) --

when they saw Him, they worshipped Him: but some doubted
(Matthew 28:17)​

what do you make of that?
 
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Still ignore these verses why?????

Mk 2:5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.

6 But there was certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,

7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Jesus forgives sins, he must be God

Jesus changes the commandments He must be God matt 5:22

Only God can work miracles Jesus must be God cos he works miracles
Even the wind and sea obey him
 

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Sure, we do not have to argue it. The trinity is not in the Bible. Nowhere does it say anything like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit who are co-eternal, co-substantial and co-equal - and if you don't believe this you cannot be saved. All the Epistles identify God as the Father. And you have to wonder why this idol is used as an obstacle for people to follow Jesus?
Agree! Thank you @Wrangler
Again if we stick to what is IN the Bible
I find those 2 or 3 references
1. Baptize all Nations in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit
2. There are three that bear witness, the water the blood and the spirit
3. And if you take the TWO Great Commandments and add the NEW Commandment, you get a commandment
corresponding to love of God, love of Jesus, and love of humanity by the Holy Spirit.

There is no trying to test, confuse, dogmatize or add conditions to make people see these as some kind of test condition on faith to judge anyone by.

Just receive and share the love of the Father Son and Holy Spirit, and this stays ONE GOD, not some side tangent.

Thank you @Wrangler
I will add a special prayer request to uplift you @theefaith and all others called to unite all believers to receive the One God by receiving the One Mediator between God and man in Christ Jesus, and healing truth and peace by the Holy Spirit. So we may all follow the Authority of Jesus/Yeshua in Baptizing all Nations and freeing humanity by God's Universal Truth Justice and Peace for all.

May God richly bless you and your mission, uplift everyone you touch in your circles and ministry outreach, give you favor and turn all hearts and minds back to the Father, and transform us all in Christ Jesus who makes us one, new, whole and perfect. Even as our Heavenly Father is perfect. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen!
 

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Again if we stick to what is IN the Bible
I find those 2 or 3 references ... And if you take the TWO Great Commandments and add the NEW Commandment, you get a commandment corresponding to ...

I trust you realize you are NOT sticking to what is in the Bible here but constructing some kind of synthesis - for the purposes of supporting an doctrine that is NOT explictly taught in the Bible. Otherwise, you'd simply quote that one verse.
 
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i'm sorry i didn't realize *your bible* only has one book in it.
the rest of us have the full text.

This thread is about how the Book of Acts undermines trinitarianism. Don't try to change the subject.

have fun dying in your sins

This shows trinitarianism does not bring out the fruit of the Spirit.

hey Mssr. lost blasphemer damned to hell for your unbelief ((see John 8:24)) --

when they saw Him, they worshipped Him: but some doubted
(Matthew 28:17)​

what do you make of that?

Trinitarians falsely equate being worshipped as proof of God. It is not. David was worshipped and that did not make him God.
 
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