Seven Year Peace Plan

[Jay Ross]

Your assessment of what would need to be so in order to be timeless, is quite accurate. So, your logic is in tact...and I forgive you for thinking I am crazy...because if I didn't know better I would agree, it does sound crazy from a perspective of living in the world.

However, even science will at least speculate about time being an illusion (according to Einstein)...but suffers from the same problem of it seeming to defy logic.

Nonetheless, God tells us of the beginning and the end, and then eludes to His timeless reality by His on Word. So, we know that time is a part of creation, and God is not contained only within His creation. Which would indicate that time and all of creation is like a fishbowl of His making that does not share the ocean of His own reality surrounding it. And, why not, He's God? In that greater context, it is time then that becomes crazy, and God and timelessness, what is sane and logical.

But, hey, I'm just a witness and a messenger. You are welcome to role over and pull the covers over your head, put your fingers in your ears, whatever - your choice. But then, in all reality...I would have to say that is crazy.

But of whom? That really has become the issue.

In Genesis God rested on the seventh day but the length of the day that he rested was referenced within God's timeframe of reality, not man's. This is implied within the Genesis Account as over 1,000 years passed before there is any record of God's handiwork occurring after the end of the sixth day. I am not completely crazy but you have given your opinion on this subject matter without backing up your opinion with Scriptural references that support your craziness. No 1ax1v I mean.

 

[ScottA]

But of whom? That really has become the issue.

In Genesis God rested on the seventh day but the length of the day that he rested was referenced within God's timeframe of reality, not man's. This is implied within the Genesis Account as over 1,000 years passed before there is any record of God's handiwork occurring after the end of the sixth day. I am not completely crazy but you have given your opinion on this subject matter without backing up your opinion with Scriptural references that support your craziness. No 1ax1v I mean.

Ah, but I have backed it up with scripture, sighting God's own use of timeless references, such as the use of "today" as the complete time frame of salvation, and Jesus' coming "quickly" rather than some 2000+ years later, and I even explained just how it works, that God is not contained within His own creation, as if He painted Himself into His own masterpiece.

But since you are not yet tracking with the timeless notations in the scriptures, let me ask you: How much time is denoted in "I am?"

And let me also ask: If you were a parent and told your children a story beginning with "Once upon a time..." ... how much time would you be meaning, the time it took just to say those few words, or to tell the whole story, or rather the story line time frame? And if you had instantly, in the twinkling of an eye, determined what you would tell them, what would the length of the story line mean to them? Or would the time it took to tell the story be the same as the time indicated in the story line, or different? And if a fly were flying in a car going 50 mph, how fast is the fly really flying?

You see, you are making a case for the story line being reality, or just the speed the fly is flying and not the speed of the car. We may as well talk about Santa Claus then too. But, sorry, I am going to continue telling you the truth, rather than the story as you first heard it.

You can thank me later.

 

[Jay Ross]

Ah, but I have backed it up with scripture, sighting God's own use of timeless references, such as the use of "today" as the complete time frame of salvation, and Jesus' coming "quickly" rather than some 2000+ years later, and I even explained just how it works, that God is not contained within His own creation, as if He painted Himself into His own masterpiece.

But since you are not yet tracking with the timeless notations in the scriptures, let me ask you: How much time is denoted in "I am?"

And let me also ask: If you were a parent and told your children a story beginning with "Once upon a time..." ... how much time would you be meaning, the time it took just to say those few words, or to tell the whole story, or rather the story line time frame? And if you had instantly, in the twinkling of an eye, determined what you would tell them, what would the length of the story line mean to them? Or would the time it took to tell the story be the same as the time indicated in the story line, or different? And if a fly were flying in a car going 50 mph, how fast is the fly really flying?

You see, you are making a case for the story line being reality, or just the speed the fly is flying and not the speed of the car. We may as well talk about Santa Claus then too. But, sorry, I am going to continue telling you the truth, rather than the story as you first heard it.

You can thank me later.

Within the text where it is first found in Exodus 3, around 1,450 solar years the "Great I am" was applicable to Israel, but then Christ when He was teaching His disciples to pray, changed the term with which to address God with, to, "Father," which is now timeless.

 

[ScottA]

Within the text where it is first found in Exodus 3, around 1,450 solar years the "Great I am" was applicable to Israel, but then Christ when He was teaching His disciples to pray, changed the term with which to address God with, to, "Father," which is now timeless.

I hear you...but "now timeless" is a contradiction in terms.

Does that not tell you that there are two different sets of laws expressed in the scriptures, one of God, and the other of the world?