Shabbat shalom, veteran.
That defies common sense, because His being cut off is specifically mentioned in conjunction with the 'threescore and two weeks" period in Dan.9:26. Mention of the final "one week" is not included in that Dan.9:26 verse at all.
No, that only "defies common WESTERN sense." One must think like an Isra'eli to get this right. We like for everything to be reported in a nice, neat, little package of historically sequential events, but the Jewish thought pattern is to express more general points first and then go into the specifics. Sometimes, a chain of events is given that is more general than the details that are presented later. Then, the author will zero in on a particular, general point and expand upon the details. When he does this, some of the general points that happen AFTER the details will have already been mentioned before the details that happen prior to those general points.
It's not wrong; it's just the way they think! A case in point is Genesis 1:1.
Genesis 1:1
1 In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth.
KJV
The Hebrew words in Genesis 1:1 for "heaven(s)" and "earth" are "
shaamayim" and "
erets," respectively. So, in a general declaration at the beginning of the account, Mosheh (Moses) reported that "In the beginning God created the heaven(s) and the earth." These SAME words are then used in the later specifics:
Genesis 1:6-10
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven (Hebrew: shaamayim). And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth (Hebrew: erets); and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
KJV
The same sort of thing happens here in Dani'el 9. Verse 26 gives a more general view of the events to come, and verse 27 goes into more specific details. The key, when one recognizes it, is that the Messiah is still being talked about in verse 27 which would be BEFORE He is "cut off," as was mentioned in verse 26. Thus, Gavri'el was going back and focusing on the details that happened BEFORE the people of the prince would destroy the city and the sanctuary.
So, for what you're saying to be true, the final "one week" WOULD have to be in that Dan.9:26 verse tied with that "threescore and two weeks". It is not there, and the KJV translators even placed a colon (
after that period's statement, dividing the timeline subject flow, because why? Because right after that colon (
, the subject begins about the "people of the prince" that would come to destroy the city and the sanctuary, which were the Romans in 70 A.D.
Dan 9:26
26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
(KJV)
The part in bold is about Christ being crucified at the ending of that "threescore and two weeks" period, then the colon (
to divide the next subject (underlined) about "the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary", which was about the Romans destroying Jerusalem and the 2nd temple. Notice that says "the people" of that next prince are the ones that did that. The Romans in 70 A.D. were NOT servants of Christ Jesus. They were NOT His people, for The Gospel had not been sent to the Romans yet at that time.
The colon means next to nothing. It's not even there in the Hebrew. That is just the translator's interpretation of what he thinks was being said. Verse 27 continues with verbs for a masculine, singular subject that cannot be the "prince" because he is part of a prepositional phrase (or rather, a secondary noun of the Hebrew construct state), and therefore the verbs go back to the closest, masculine, singular noun prior to the verbs of verse 27, the "Messiah" of verse 26.
Shalom, Trekson.
Hi som, Your words:"Not true! The sixty ninth week ended at the coming of the Messiah. The seventieth week was half spent by the messiahs ministry."
Many people misunderstand this. Christ's first coming wasn't timed by the beginning of His ministry but in fulfillment of the prophecy of Zech.9:9 - "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass."
This was at the end of His ministry, thus no part of the 70th week has occurred.
"Son of man" is correct here. The first half of the seventieth week WAS half spent by the Messiah's "ministry." The problem is that the SECOND HALF of the seventieth week was POSTPONED, in keeping with the prophecy in Dani'el 9:27. Herein lies the TRUE "gap" which the pretribulational rapturists suppose was between the 69th and the 70th Sevens:
Daniel 9:27
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
KJV
Talking about the Messiah, HE shall confirm the covenant (the Davidic covenant) with many for one Seven, but in the middle of the Seven, HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease by SATISFYING the need for sacrifice and oblation with HIS Sacrifice. For the overspreading of abominations, namely the rejections of the Messiah, HE shall make it desolate (Matthew 23:38), EVEN UNTIL THE CONSUMMATION or THE END! This desolation has been going on for nearly 2,000 years! However, those who reject the Messiah of God, the One who is their RIGHTFUL KING, have yet to fulfill Psalm 118:26 (and Matthew 23:39)! It will not be "THE END" until they do! This is the "tribulation" that Yeshua` was talking about in the Olivet Discourse. It is a "tribulation" or a "PRESSURE" upon the Jewish people, His "elect" or His "chosen ones," the "chosen seed of Isra'el." This "tribulation" or "pressure," the Greek word "
thlipsis," will be shortened, not in the duration of the period (it HAS been going on for nearly 2,000 years), but the YEARS of "tribulation" or "pressure" WITHIN the duration of the period have been shortened! It has not been a continual pressure that could have wiped out the Jews and Israelis had it been persistent!
The key here is to ask the question, "What are the purposes of the seventy Sevens?" and more specifically, "What is the purpose of the FINAL Seven?" Well, the six purposes of the seventy Sevens are...
Daniel 9:24
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
1. to finish the transgression, and
2. to make an end of sins, and
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity, and
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness, and
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy, and
6. to anoint the most Holy.
KJV
As one might guess, not all of these purposes have been fulfilled, yet. While Yeshua` has fulfilled some of them during His first advent, some of them won't be fulfilled until He fulfills the rest at His second advent. As a Messianic prophecy, then, the main purpose for these Sevens is to "usher in everlasting righteousness" in the person of the Messiah, who has already "made an end of sins" and "made reconciliation for iniquity." The "anointing of the most Holy" is talking about the Holy of Holies, the innermost room of the Temple. However, the "sealing up of the vision and prophecy" and "finishing the transgression" can only happen at the end. These have not yet been accomplished.
Furthermore, Zechariah 9:9 was NOT fulfilled at the end of His ministry! It is YET to be fulfilled!
Look at the verse again:
Zechariah 9:9
9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
KJV
The word "salvation" doesn't have anything to do with our modern interpretation of the word. It has to do with RESCUE or DELIVERANCE! While He did ride into Yerushalayim upon a donkey, a colt the foal of a donkey, He did NOT bring DELIVERANCE at that time! It was asked for in the Greek word "hosanna," a transliteration of the Hebrew phrase, "howshiy`aah naa'," meaning "PLEASE, rescue us, now!" It was predicted to be said in Psalm 118:25, but only the children and the disciples of Yeshua` said the words! The leaders of Y'hudah (Judah) did NOT say these words nor did they encourage anyone else to say them! Indeed, they demanded that Yeshua` REBUKE His disciples for saying them! So, Yeshua` is waiting for the day when they are desperate enough to say the words, as predicted in Psalm 118:22-26.
The King Apparent, or the King Elect (Elect by God, that is), LEFT THEM until they welcome Him back to rescue them! When He returns, His offer of the Kingdom will be given again, and this time, it will be accepted and they will anoint Him with oil as their King, just as God anointed Him with the Oil of Gladness (Psalm 45:7; Hebrews 1:9), and announced Him as His Son at both His baptism and His transfiguration.
Therefore, the main purpose of the seventy Sevens was to offer the King and His Kingdom to first the Jews, then the Isra'elis, and then the world as their King of Kings. When He arrives, He will re-start the final 3.5 years of the last Seven and offer them God's Kingdom once again.
