Should I buy a sword?

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Gotcha. This was not losing his temper. He was right and always acted righteously. It's not clear if he whipped the men or just the animals. I think that may have been enough of deterrent to cause the men to just leave. It doesn't actually say either way but that's certainly my take.

I am not a big- hey I got a gun person by any means and I would turn them in if the law forced me to. We need to obey the laws of the land unless they go against God.
But for the life of me I do not understand how stopping a mass murderer by shooting him is a sin when you are protecting the lives of innocent people. It's not something I ever hope I would have to do- no I dread the thought! But I could not stand there watching hoping the cops gets there before the last child is dead. That could be 20 min before the cops arrive and another 5 to get inside.
Scripture is very clear. Nothing in this account can be construed as Jesus making a “weapon” that was used on people.

A cow whip is a traditional working tool, distinct from a standard bullwhip, used primarily by workers in marshy and heavily wooded regions to herd cattle. It features a long, braided lash connected to a solid, inflexible wooden handle.



John 2

14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money.

15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s houseinto a market!”
 

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Scripture is very clear. Nothing in this account can be construed as Jesus making a “weapon” that was used on people.

A cow whip is a traditional working tool, distinct from a standard bullwhip, used primarily by workers in marshy and heavily wooded regions to herd cattle. It features a long, braided lash connected to a solid, inflexible wooden handle.



John 2

14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money.

15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s houseinto a market!”
I believe that I just said that Jesus did not whip the men. It can read differently in different texts.
I had not noticed before that he made the whip.- that's all.

I am not looking to argue anything with you. Like I said- follow your own conscience on how you would act in a horrid situation. I will follow mine. I have no animosity against your decision.
 

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Gotcha. This was not losing his temper. He was right and always acted righteously. It's not clear if he whipped the men or just the animals. I think that may have been enough of deterrent to cause the men to just leave. It doesn't actually say either way but that's certainly my take.
Righteous anger. He fashioned a whip and cleared all from the market place set before his father's house.

He could have done the same using just his stern voice. He was God on Earth. But,he fashioned a whip and then proceeded to clear all, animals and men.
I am not a big- hey I got a gun person by any means and I would turn them in if the law forced me to. We need to obey the laws of the land unless they go against God.
But for the life of me I do not understand how stopping a mass murderer by shooting him is a sin when you are protecting the lives of innocent people. It's not something I ever hope I would have to do- no I dread the thought! But I could not stand there watching hoping the cops gets there before the last child is dead. That could be 20 min before the cops arrive and another 5 to get inside.
Agreed.
There was a case where an armed officer failed to act when a school shooter set off killing people.
I don't know how a trained professional does not act to save the lives he was hired to protect.

There was CCTV footage from cameras set about the campus that showed his refusal to act.
He was prosecuted.

The DA said that the officer
hid while refusing to enter the school. Gunshots could be heard on the CCTV footage.

I wondered if he would have handed his gun to a trained civilian should they have asked for it.

The officers cowardice cost people their lives. Nineteen students and two teachers were killed.

The officer was acquitted.
 

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What does this have to do with anything? Why do you keep avoiding the NT to support your position?
Here are but a coupla N.T. verses to support my "Beliefs, Convictions, Faith!":
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME.

And?:
1 Peter 2:
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, TO OFFER UP "SPIRITUAL SACRIFICES ACCEPTABLE TO GOD", "BY" JESUS CHRIST.
 

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I don't know how a trained professional does not act to save the lives he was hired to protect.

Self-preservation + selfishness. I recall he was a few weeks from retiring.

The officer was acquitted.

Despite dereliction of duty leading to death. What do you make about the thread suicidal empathy?
 

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