Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[Dan Clarkston]

It's through the "foolishness of preaching"..........it's the POWER of God unto salvation, rather than being a method or formula to follow.....it is not with wise words of man. If we receive the truth and word of God when it is preached or when we read it in scripture then we have received the "solution".....the washing of the water of the word and the light unto our path.

Key passages and truths for me on this subject are these......where God's word through James says friendship with the world is enmity with God...those who are friends with the world are adulterers and adulteresses, spiritually speaking. And where Paul taught to be not unequally yoked with unbelievers but come out from among them and be separate (holy, set apart) that God might receive us.

So where is the call to action for a person who is not saved but wants to become saved.?

Specifically, what does one like this need to do to be saved?

 

[Jack]

It's VERY dangerous to speak against Israel!

Genesis 12:3 I will curse him who curses you;

 

[amigo de christo]

its obvious men have brainwashed this generation .
It is time for all who name the name of JESUS CHRIST
to return to the bible and let those words wash thy brain in truth .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

It is time for all who name the name of JESUS CHRIST
to return to the bible and let those words wash thy brain in truth .

And to stop boasting against the branches understanding they are beloved for the Father's sakes

Romans 11:13-22
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of
them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be,
but life from the dead?
For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among
them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee,
goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Romans 11:28
they are beloved for the Father's sakes

 

[Marvelloustime]

its obvious men have brainwashed this generation .
It is time for all who name the name of JESUS CHRIST
to return to the bible and let those words wash thy brain in truth .

@amigo de christo

 

[Jack]

Romans 11:25-27
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins."

 

[amigo de christo]

And to stop boasting against the branches understanding they are beloved for the Father's sakes

Romans 11:13-22
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of
them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be,
but life from the dead?
For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among
them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee,
goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Romans 11:28
they are beloved for the Father's sakes

and what occurs to the branches broken off . not GOOD .
and how is the only way they can be grafted back in , OH YEAH by FAITH IN JESUS .
The elect . You do realize jacob and essau were of the same identical flesh lineage .
Paul knew how to save them . I SUGGEST you go and do likewise .
Paul preached JESUS to them and with a huge sense of urgency . HE even shook the dust off his feet
against jews who rejected JESUS . ANY guesses on why that was .
You also might want to read some revelation too . Beleive me , a jew can and will wail as loudly as a gentile
will on JESUS day , if they reject HIM .
YOU do realize that being born a jew is not an automatic ticket you are saved . RIGHT .
I mean you do realize that since the days of paul up till now
MANY jews , many gentiles have been born and died , REJECTING JESUS .
YOU do realize IT WONT BE A GOOD RESSURECTION for those RIGHT .
YOU do realize there is a ressurection of the just and the unjust
AND the only way to BE JUSTIFIED is By faith in JESUS .
You do realize that many have been indoctrinated right . You being one of the many who have been
indoctrinated my friend .
You do realize that aint good . Its about high time we read some bible for ourselves .
AND do so without the influence of said teachers and denominations too .

 

[Jack]

Ezekiel 11:17-20
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." ' ...

And He did.

19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My judgments and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

And He will.

 

[Marvelloustime]

now for the reason as to why they beleive this plan to be of GOD .
and again YOU already know this . but go ahead and entertian this anway .
THEY WHO ARE OF THE WORLD , will hear the world , their hopes are in the earthern .
And why do the sheep KNOW better .
cause our hope be not in men , is not of or in the w orld , and our kingdom is not earthen but HEAVENLY .
And now a word .
CURSED IS THE MAN WHOSE HOPE was in man . GOD ALWAYS KNEW .
BUT BLESSED BE THE MAN WHOSE HOPE BE IN GOD . SHEEP hear and KNOW the TRUTH .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Ezekiel 11:17-20
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." ' ...

And He did.

19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My judgments and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

And He will.

OH HE WILL all right .
And he warned the jews he would .
And that they , the unbeliving WOULD BE CAST OUT .
OH JESUS sure is gonna gather from the east , west and etc
ALL WHO ARE HIS and they SURE ARE GONNA be seated in HEAVENLY JERUSALEM .
ya keep seeing the earthen
WHEN IT SHOULD have been the HEAVENLY .
The blood of the jews will be on your hands jack .
The blood of the world and the jews who beleived not
will be upon the hands of the nar realm .
OF the RCC , of any and of all who sat under the ecumeincal WHORE of all harlots and her intefaith plan of anti christ .
I sure hope if anyone is connected to that group THEY GETS OUT FAST . AND i do mean super fast too .
Cause its all coming down on JESUS DAY .

 

[Jack]

OH HE WILL all right .
And he warned the jews he would .
And that they , the unbeliving WOULD BE CAST OUT .
OH JESUS sure is gonna gather from the east , west and etc
ALL WHO ARE HIS and they SURE ARE GONNA be seated in HEAVENLY JERUSALEM .
ya keep seeing the earthen
WHEN IT SHOULD have been the HEAVENLY .
The blood of the jews will be on your hands jack .

Baloney!

The blood of the world and the jews who beleived not
will be upon the hands of the nar realm .
OF the RCC , of any and of all who sat under the ecumeincal WHORE of all harlots and her intefaith plan of anti christ .
I sure hope if anyone is connected to that group THEY GETS OUT FAST . AND i do mean super fast too .
Cause its all coming down on JESUS DAY .

Sit back and watch God fight for Israel, in the Land of the Bible where Jesus will return!

 

[Jay Ross]

Ezekiel 11:17-20
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." ' ...

And He did.

19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My judgments and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

And He will.

Jack, you have now found another scripture which is contextually inaccurate. What has been translated as "land" should read as "the fertile field of Israel." The translation you have used is misleading. It contains Satan's lie that Israel must return to the land of Canaan to become a Kingdom of Priests, a Holy nation and God's possession among the nations. Unless Israel remains to be scattered among the nation, they will not be able to fulfil God's purposes for the salvation of the respective nations.

Below is how I would accurately paraphrase Ezekiel 11:14-25: -



What is the basis/foundation stone of the "fertile field of Israel?" It is none other than the fact that "Jesus is the son of God.

Does this mean that Israel must return to the "Promised Lands" which were taken from them because of their idolatrous worship? Certainly not, God's intent for Israel and His Christian Saints if for them to remain scattered among the Gentiles in order to bring the Gentiles also into loving relationship with God.

Shalom

 

[Jay Ross]

Some people don’t give honest answers.

Are you calling God a liar by claiming that my quoting of God's actual words in the scriptures is a lie?

If I were you, I would be repenting, because of your hard heart.

 

[Jack]

Jack, you have now found another scripture which is contextually inaccurate. What has been translated as "land" should read as "the fertile field of Israel." The translation you have used is misleading. It contains Satan's lie that Israel must return to the land of Canaan to become a Kingdom of Priests, a Holy nation and God's possession among the nations. Unless Israel remains to be scattered among the nation, they will not be able to fulfil God's purposes for the salvation of the respective nations.

Below is how I would accurately paraphrase Ezekiel 11:14-25: -

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What is the basis/foundation stone of the "fertile field of Israel?" It is none other than the fact that "Jesus is the son of God.

Does this mean that Israel must return to the "Promised Lands" which were taken from them because of their idolatrous worship? Certainly not, God's intent for Israel and His Christian Saints if for them to remain scattered among the Gentiles in order to bring the Gentiles also into loving relationship with God.

Shalom

You're just not paying attention! Israel is already Home to STAY!

 

[Jack]

Are you calling God a liar by claiming that my quoting of God's actual words in the scriptures is a lie?

If I were you, I would be repenting, because of your hard heart.

Such IRONY!

 

[Jay Ross]

You're just not paying attention! Israel is already Home to STAY!

Jack, that is your opinion. From my perspective, you are not paying attention to God's original prophecy given to Ezekiel.

 

[Jack]

Jack, that is your opinion. From my perspective, you are not paying attention to God's original prophecy given to Ezekiel.

Don't you have a map? It's called Israel in the Land of the Bible, Capital Jerusalem, in the news every day. I hope you don't bring the curse on you and your family!

 

[Jay Ross]

Such IRONY!

Be very careful Jack in what you post because you are describing yourself and your understanding of the scriptures where you are presenting a lie that has become embedded in our version of the scriptures.

 

[Lizbeth]

So where is the call to action for a person who is not saved but wants to become saved.?

Specifically, what does one like this need to do to be saved?

It is not what the person does, so much as what the Lord does by His Spirit. But our part is to believe in our heart and then confess with our mouth.

 

[Jack]

Be very careful Jack in what you post because you are describing yourself and your understanding of the scriptures where you are presenting a lie that has become embedded in our version of the scriptures.

I am careful. I don't speak against Israel. I don't pretend to be Israel like many wannabees.