since the bible is perfect

[Behold]

In your last sentence is the one we can count on... "the Holy Spirit".

Jesus was a teacher sent from God.

Paul was a teacher.
Sent from God.

Today, there are a few left, who teach what Paul Taught. "Pauline Theology".
Not many of us left and so,.....listen well.

 

[amadeus]

Jesus was a teacher sent from God.

Paul was a teacher.
Sent from God.

Today, there are a few left, who teach what Paul Taught. "Pauline Theology".
Not many of us left and so,.....listen well.

Thank you for your advice. I have a great teacher sent from God.

 

[quietthinker]

The "Scriptures" are the word of God.
To say they are "error' is the fruit of an unbelieving heart that denies the Truth.

What does a bible denier, have in common with the Devil?
Both deny the word of God is true. Both seek to cast doubt on the word of God.

Trying to cast doubt on the word of God is the Devil's work.

The term, 'The word of God' is a broad euphemism for the written scriptures. Why not ask for evidence instead of making wild statements which rely on ignorance.

 

[stredaleve]

OSAS is Biblical, the Trinity is Biblical. You can deny OSAS and still be saved, but im not so sure about denying the Trinity and still being saved. Denying Jesus is God is questionable.

jesus is God but that does not mean the son and the father are the same entity so i deny the trinity theory hundred percent

and it's not for you to decide by simply rejecting the theory whether i will be saved or not but i'm sure if i die right here right now i won't be saved just stating facts

i did not reject the word of God or facts that jesus is God and that they are one what i reject is other people's beliefs the trinity that originally came from catholic yet born again church despised the catholic yet they took the belief and made it their own shameless was it

 

[stredaleve]

To say the actual writings of the scriptures are without error can only be said through ignorance and further enquiry is needed.

you still do not get what i wanted to say QwQ so i'm sorry i cannot explain because i do not know how

the actions of God cannot be comprehended with human's understanding

maybe if you can be like God see what's on my mind you'll understand instantly without me explaining anything

 

[stredaleve]

Except, of course if it's "PERFECT", then why does it contain contradictions, and errors of fact??

contradictions based on what? on the creatures own understandings with the help of the archenemy
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

 

[stredaleve]

concrete evidence?

yes depends on what you understand
that's why there are a lot of different version of the bible and there are a lot of different religion

Philippians 2:5-11
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God,[christ the begotten son was in the form of God the father] thought it not robbery to be equal with God:[christ the son while in the form of God the father thought it not to rob the identity of God the father] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

as you can see still depends on your understandings... let's not force each other who are right or wrong tje fact that there is 1 christianity but tons of religion makes us divided not united

 

[stredaleve]

so there is two God the only begotten son of God and his father in heaven
but the one who sent christ the only begotten son of God is greater than the one that was sent christ the only begotten son of God sent the holy spirit from the God the father in heaven

so God the father is greater than
the God the son and so God the son is better than the holy spirit that was sent from God the father

in this 3 in 1 trinity died

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

jesus is God but that does not mean the son and the father are the same entity so i deny the trinity theory hundred percent

and it's not for you to decide by simply rejecting the theory whether i will be saved or not but i'm sure if i die right here right now i won't be saved just stating facts

i did not reject the word of God or facts that jesus is God and that they are one what i reject is other people's beliefs the trinity that originally came from catholic yet born again church despised the catholic yet they took the belief and made it their own shameless was it

im not sure you understand what the Trinity is. Jesus and the Father are not the same entity. The doctrine of the Trinity is one God in 3 persons. So imagine a triangle, three points, one point is the Father, one point is Jesus, and another point is the Holy Spirit, yet the entire triangle we would call God. One God in three distinct and separate persons. Hope that makes sense.
Scripture tells us that if we deny any part of who the Trinity is, we arent saved.
“1 John 2:23, ESV: No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.“

“Second John 1:7 also confronted this problem of those denying Jesus' status as God incarnate. A person who deceives by changing core teachings about Jesus is considered a false teacher and antichrist. This was true not only in the church to which John wrote 1 John, but in any time or place where this occurs.”

Hope this helps some.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

so there is two God the only begotten son of God and his father in heaven
but the one who sent christ the only begotten son of God is greater than the one that was sent christ the only begotten son of God sent the holy spirit from the God the father in heaven

so God the father is greater than
the God the son and so God the son is better than the holy spirit that was sent from God the father

in this 3 in 1 trinity died

i would not say one is better than the other. They each have a role, as to how this plays out in your salvation. The Father calls you, Jesus died to make the calling effectual, and the Holy Spirit seals you.
When you pray, you pray in Jesus’ name to the Father. The Trinity are co-existant, co-equal, and co-powerful.

 

[stredaleve]

im not sure you understand what the Trinity is. Jesus and the Father are not the same entity. The doctrine of the Trinity is one God in 3 persons.

i did not include the hs because i have nothing to say

One God in three distinct and separate persons. Hope that makes sense.

ohh yes! i reject that

anyway it's like just picking verses that well fitted stealing from other churches beliefs then making own religion then that newly made church comdemning the church whom they have stolen something sigh no one is good but God

this only turns out everyone is a hypocrite including me

i would not say one is better than the other. They each have a role

you rely on your own understanding was it

When you pray, you pray in Jesus’ name to the Father. The Trinity are co-existant, co-equal, and co-powerful.

John 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

what i did was to only compiled the verses and make a summary

Scripture tells us that if we deny any part of who the Trinity is

you just add something to the scripture ain't you

well that's on you

“1 John 2:23, ESV: No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.“

what i deny is the trinity lel
1 John 2:22-25
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

“Second John 1:7 also confronted this problem of those denying Jesus' status as God incarnate. A person who deceives by changing core teachings about Jesus is considered a false teacher and antichrist. This was true not only in the church to which John wrote 1 John, but in any time or place where this occurs.”

what i reject is you not exactly you but what you believe in that's what i reject...

John 1:6-13
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

[stredaleve]

Saul didnt have the Holy Spirit in Him.
He was not born again.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

 

[Behold]

The term, 'The word of God' is a broad euphemism for the written scriptures.

Not to a real believer.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

op: Since The BIBLE Is Perfect?
“But when That Which Is Perfect Is Come, then
that which is In Part SHALL BE DONE AWAY.”
(1 Corinthians 13:1-10)

So, does that mean that "the gifts of prophecy, tongues, and word
of knowledge," have "failed, ceased, and vanished away"?

Did God Replace them With These for us, Today, Under PURE GRACE?:

"And Now Abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but
The Greatest of these is Charity!" (1_Corinthians 13:13)
--------------------------------------
Of course, this is a moot point IF The BIBLE Is NOT Perfect, but then
how would anyone "know HOW To Be Saved," Correct?

So, which is it? PERFECT (Psalms 138:2), OR, NOT PERFECT?

God's Simple Will!

GRACE And Peace...

 

[GRACE ambassador]

i still reject trinity hundred percent cause i found a concrete evidence

concrete evidence?

No problem at all, found In The PERFECT "Word of God's TRUTH"!:
https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/160-reasons-jesus-is-almighty-god.45239/
"Complete Case" For JESUS Is Almighty God!

Please be Very Richly Enlightened, Encouraged, Exhorted, And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And HIS PERFECT Word Of Truth! Amen?

 

[GRACE ambassador]

the theology of born again that
once saved is always saved

I do not believe that most people who say that they can never lose their salvation really know that.

IF The Bible Is PERFECT, Meaning God Is Trustworthy, Then
"faith IS believing What HE Said," Correct? for TRUE "believers":

1Jn 5:13 "These things have I Written unto you that believe on
The Name of the SON of God; that ye may know that ye have
Eternal Life, and that ye may believe on The Name of the Son of God."

With Plenty Of Confirming Evidence From HIS PERFECT Word, Correct?:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!
God's ETERNAL Assurance!

Of course IF "The Word of God Is NOT PERFECT," Then "God is
UNtrustworthy," in which case, "NO ONE can Really know!" Correct?

We will EACH decide, and "Give An Account TO HIM, Who is JUDGE,"
Individually, Correct?

God's Simple Will!

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Denying Jesus is God is questionable.

Of course, The PERFECT Word Of God Does Teach That There
"Could be Another jesus" brought/preached by some folk, Correct?:

"Another jesus," OR: JESUS Is God And SAVIOUR!

GRACE And Peace...

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

i did not include the hs because i have nothing to say

ohh yes! i reject that

anyway it's like just picking verses that well fitted stealing from other churches beliefs then making own religion then that newly made church comdemning the church whom they have stolen something sigh no one is good but God

this only turns out everyone is a hypocrite including me

you rely on your own understanding was it

John 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

what i did was to only compiled the verses and make a summary

you just add something to the scripture ain't you

well that's on you

what i deny is the trinity lel
1 John 2:22-25
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

what i reject is you not exactly you but what you believe in that's what i reject...

John 1:6-13
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

whew, thats terrible. Heres a link that will help you.
What Is the Doctrine of the Trinity?

Also, most people on here dont call out bad theology, but i do. Amadeus may be a nice fella, but he is absolutely wrong when it comes to the Trinity.

 

[bbyrd009]

The term, 'The word of God' is a broad euphemism for the written scriptures. Why not ask for evidence instead of making wild statements which rely on ignorance.

great cover for the real Word imo

the poorer view of OT writers.

for example?

To say the actual writings of the scriptures are without error can only be said through ignorance and further enquiry is needed.

kinda surprised to hear you say that...in the original languages also? You think?

 

[bbyrd009]

Except, of course if it's "PERFECT", then why does it contain contradictions, and errors of fact??

seems like most of those are deliberate, and lead to a point maybe?