Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

[Judge Hardcastle]

You are not only claiming to be under God's permanent mercy, you also claim to have immunity for prosecution from sin.

What do you think a propitiation is?
Do you even know? I don't think you do.

Romans 3:25
25God presented Him as an atoning sacrificei (propitiation) in His blood through faith, in order to demonstrate His righteousness

1 John 4:
10And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as the atoning sacrificed (propitiation) for our sins.

You don't have to believe the Bible. And you can certainly make up your own religion. But what you CAN'T do is say the Bible doesn't say what it says.

 

[Episkopos]

The problem is your circular reasoning. You say they are righteous because they obey righteously. Then you say they obey righteously because they are righteous. What a jumbled up, illogical theology!

Only a very muddled mind see it that way. Righteous is as righteous DOES. A strong man can lift 300 pounds. Does that make him strong? Did he have no strength UNTIL he lifted 300 pounds? Or did the lifting PROVE he was strong? That is not circular reasoning...it is sound reasoning.

A righteous man chooses to do what is right. This works for either believing or actions. Phinehas killed 2 people who were offensive to God and God declared that his work was righteous. The same for Abraham. Most people would have no believed God...but he did. His faith in God was the RIGHT thing to do. His work was righteous....just like Phinehas.

A new convert to Christ is to learn righteousness...or else he will be rejected. ONLY the righteous inherit the kingdom. You need to start READING the bible. All of it.

I don't have to know you to know that you do NOT walk in perfection. You just don't.

I never said I am presently walking in perfection. I said I HAD walked in the perfection of Christ. I have this testimony. And no pretender will receive my testimony because they have not been set apart for faith.

 

[Episkopos]

The gift of righteousness is only fictitious to you.

Again, only in your very muddled mind. The GIFT of righteousness is in the higher walk...in the kingdom realm. Nobody who sins has the GIFT of righteousness. That is from the pit of hell. It is no wonder you twist the bible narrative and my own words.

The gift of righteousness is not something human.....it is only found IN Christ. In Him is no sin.

That is why you are by definition an unbeliever. You do not believe in the sacrifice of Jesus for the forgiveness of sin and a turning away of the wrath of God. You are literally an unbeliever.

Like the Romans claimed the believers to be. I don't accept your idolatry. I worship Jesus and obey Jesus. It's not about me. Your false religion is based on trying to exploit Jesus for your own ends. You speak lies from yourself and you have seen nothing. You don't even know the bible...

You believe another gospel.

I am a mirror here. The true gospel is according to POWER. Your gospel is according to imagination.

 

[Episkopos]

What I don' t understand is the need for people to justify themselves in their sins. That's a double sin. It's lying on top of basic sinning. That's the sin of the Pharisees.

Why is it so important to pretend? What ever happened to claiming LESS than one is? Why is the church so full of hypocrisy?

It's in the doctrines. People think they are doing God a favour by naming and claiming a fictitious status. But the opposite is true. God HATES a false witness and a false balance.

While we are trying to be justified by Christ in our sins....we make Jesus a minister of sin. This ought not to be. Instead we are to claim to be unprofitable servants. Let others consider you to be righteous...not yourself.

 

[Episkopos]

What do you think a propitiation is?
Do you even know? I don't think you do.

Romans 3:25
25God presented Him as an atoning sacrificei (propitiation) in His blood through faith, in order to demonstrate His righteousness

1 John 4:
10And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as the atoning sacrificed (propitiation) for our sins.

You don't have to believe the Bible. And you can certainly make up your own religion. But what you CAN'T do is say the Bible doesn't say what it says.

It's Kaparah in Hebrew. And it concerns holiness not righteousness. And there are 2 goats on Yom Kippour. One for sacrifice and one to escape. You are the escape variety...or Jesus Barabbas.


What you don't realize is that escape is not a good thing.... being sacrificed is.