Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

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Good corn of wheat falling to the ground to die in order to produce a crop. As long as one isn't doing it by way of a wilful worship or mental religious assent to a theology, but is being led there by the Lord. (The flesh profits nothing and having begun in the spirit nobody is going to now be perfected by the flesh.)
This is HE of whom all the prophets and even the law did point unto .
The great and mighty KING JESUS . Even abraham saw his day and rejoiced .
Yet its kinda odd that the inclusivians
do not point to BELIEF IN HIM b ut rather simply beleive if one just DOES his teachings
THEN they do know him , IF EVEN they do not lip His name .
OH yes i read all ab out pope francis and all ab out inclusivity .
THEY beleive the SPIRIT of GOD which was given to BELEIVERS ONLY
is apparently given to NON BELIEVERS as well , who simply loved God and their neighbor .
YOU DO see the problem in that .
HOW can a man who rejectes JESUS as the CHRIST ever be LOVING GOD .
this is a w orks gospel sold as love sister . that is all it is .
And hence ITS A FALSE ONE INDEED .
 

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just a quick reminder to us all . WHEN JESUS spoke of that seed , HE SPOKE Of himself
from when he would have to die and buried and then from whence the seed , AKA JESUS
would spring forth into a massive tree that contains ALL who do beleive on him and they will bear fruit
BY HIM . that seed was and is JESUS .
SO to the trenches . cause you are spot on right , THE FLESH PROFITS Nothing and those who may have begun in the spirit
will NEVER be perfected by the flesh , in fact they will fall FROM grace if so they THINK they can be perfected by the flesh .
Amen. But also do you agree He is leading us to follow in His footsteps and example in dying to ourselves so to speak? Not trying to save our life/psuche in this world....not loving our lives unto death?
 
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So where it says "The flesh profits nothing" in the bible is just a clerical error then...? And where its says "Having begun in the spirit......."...? We sure do differ on how one is made righteous. It is by the grace of God, through faith...not of our own. But I agree it doesn't necessarily mean one is walking sinlessly.


Righteous because they had faith in God......and that was because they were first known, called and chosen by Him to be the parents of John the Baptist. Like Abraham who had faith had also been chosen and called out from his people. It is not good to glorify man.
JESUS said something quite simliar JESUS .
I know you and y ou do that which pleases man . that which is pleasing to man IS ABOMINATION TO GOD .
as clearly also seen when JESUS warned them to beware
of the men who desire to be seen and have the glory and love flattering titles
and love to beleive they are perhaps the only ones to have ever seen the THRONE ROOM OF GOD
and the rest of us , well we just poor wee things that NEED TO heed that man .
And yet that man who cliams such , WELL HE sure do bring a false gospel .
What got lucifer rooted and booted out .
HIS PRIDE
and so too shall the pride of man be his own RUIN .
 
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Amen. But also do you agree He is leading us to follow in His footsteps and example in dying to ourselves so to speak? Not trying to save our life/psuche in this world....not loving our lives unto death?
Well would you like me to give the short or the long answer . how about both .
The short . Absolutely .
The long . I Absolutely do believe that is true sister .
HE who seeks to save his life , AKA refuses JESUS refuses to be crucified to the world , dead to the w orld
WILL LOSE H IS LIFE .
But he who seeks to lose HIS life , AKA TO BELIEVE ON JESUS and to FOLLOW HIS FOOTSTEPS , dying to self etc
Shall save HIS LIFE .
those who cling to live in sin and be of this world , will surely DIE the second death .
For as paul once wrote . IT IS NOT me who lives BUT CHRIST WHO LIVES IN ME .
we are to be d ead to SIN and alive unto GOD by JESUS CHRIST who sure has given us the SPIRIT
which sure does give us the desires and even ability to Walk PLEASING unto GOD . aka FOLLOW JESUS
FOR HE DID ALWAYS that WHICH PLEASED THE FATHER .
 
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You are referring to the righteousness that is credited to a person apart from their righteous doings.

This is as false as can be. A person is ONLY be credited with righteousness by what they DO. Again, you are confusing righteousness with holiness.

In holiness a man is COVERED by an anointing of God's righteousness by the empowering by the Spirit. As such righteousness is a gift of God.....but that righteousness is always credited to God. It is the righteousness of God, not men. It is for HIS glory not ours.


Human righteousness is by the glory of men....so we go from glory to glory who enter INTO Christ...as the bible teaches us.
Explain this to 1stCenturyLady. She challenged that truth in a post to me and I just haven't gotten to it yet.

The error that many make is they do not realize that the righteousness God credits to them

The righteousness of God is ONLY credited to God. In the same way that the American flag is always credited to America. You can have one...but it's always the US flag...never your own personal flag.
when they believe his promise of a Son is more than able to qualify them to enter into the kingdom. They think you must add the righteousness of your works in order to be righteous enough to enter in.

We will only be judged by OUR WORKS, OUR righteousness, OUR deeds. What we have done in the body.

The only difference between God's house and the world in judgment is the SCALE of the works that are expected. Contrary to evangelical fairy tales....the church will be judged HARDER than the world not easier. To whom much is given MORE is required.
They do not realize that it is God's forgiveness that qualifies you to enter in.

False. It is God's mercy that puts the ball back into our court. Most will NOT seek God for the full measure of grace....they will remain in a victim mentality and thrust all the responsibility for their behaviour onto Jesus. And to make matters even worse they will claim the goodness of Christ as their own. ALL of this confusion based on self-interest.
That doesn't mean you don't have live holy and upright. It means it is not by the righteousness of your holy behavior that you are made righteous enough to enter into the kingdom. You would indeed have to be a perfect sinless person to get in on that basis. That means no one gets in on that basis. That's why you can only become a saved person by the grace and mercy of God's forgiveness, not your works.
God's grace provision MAKES a person holy and perfect. From there the works are those that have been prepared in advance...miraculous works.
 

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Amen. But also do you agree He is leading us to follow in His footsteps and example in dying to ourselves so to speak? Not trying to save our life/psuche in this world....not loving our lives unto death?
a man who rejects JESUS is a man who is dead and shall remain only in death and shall face the second death .
And one who truly does BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
would not have c ontinued to be of the world and to love the pleasures of sin .
FOR he who lives in pleasure is DEAD while he or she lives in pleasure of sin .
HE who seeks another jesus that also panders to the flesh
seeks a jesus that never will set them free from the bondage of sin ande of death .
NOR will they ever lose their lives to SIN but will cling to save their life in this world .
And that one IN THE END LOSES ALL . HE WILL SURELY LOSE HIS LIFE in the second death sentence
given to all WHO DID REJECT GOD .
Because to reject THE JESUS CHRIST OF GOD , IS TO REJECT THE VERY ONE WHO DID SEND HIM .
thus to reject HIS GOSPEL message DOES call GOD a liar .
and to lip service as one d oes believe and yet loves and lives in sin , SURELY SHOWS THEY
never did have FAITH IN JESUS but rather in man who gave them such a jesus that would please their flesh
AND KEEP THAT MONEY FLOWING INTO these hirelings pockets . they do not love you sister
and they do not love me or the sheep . THEY LOVE MONEY , POWER and control , TO bE SEEN of men .
And that is why they also lead them all into INCLUISIVISM . A DELUSION has been sent
and it will b e NOT to their peace n safety but only THEIR OWN SUDDEN destruction .
 

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And guess what EPI allows to remain on the false religoins and even atheist . UNBELIEF IN JESUS .
THE SIN . THE SIN . For if ye believe NOT that I AM HE ye shall DIE IN YOUR SINS .
SO guess what sister .
TOTAL proof epi has no love for GOD or for humanity .
As not only does he not remind atheists or any other false religoin
TO BELIVE ON JESUS
The man goes after those who do and calls them RELIGIOUS extremist .
I must warn sister and warn i must against epi .
The man brings a false gospel and a false gospel he do b ring .
Rom 2:1-3
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
 

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This is as false as can be. A person is ONLY be credited with righteousness by what they DO. Again, you are confusing righteousness with holiness.

In holiness a man is COVERED by an anointing of God's righteousness by the empowering by the Spirit. As such righteousness is a gift of God.....but that righteousness is always credited to God. It is the righteousness of God, not men. It is for HIS glory not ours.


Human righteousness is by the glory of men....so we go from glory to glory who enter INTO Christ...as the bible teaches us.


The righteousness of God is ONLY credited to God. In the same way that the American flag is always credited to America. You can have one...but it's always the US flag...never your own personal flag.


We will only be judged by OUR WORKS, OUR righteousness, OUR deeds. What we have done in the body.

The only difference between God's house and the world in judgment is the SCALE of the works that are expected. Contrary to evangelical fairy tales....the church will be judged HARDER than the world not easier. To whom much is given MORE is required.


False. It is God's mercy that puts the ball back into our court. Most will NOT seek God for the full measure of grace....they will remain in a victim mentality and thrust all the responsibility for their behaviour onto Jesus. And to make matters even worse they will claim the goodness of Christ as their own. ALL of this confusion based on self-interest.

God's grace provision MAKES a person holy and perfect. From there the works are those that have been prepared in advance...miraculous works.
Hey epi HOW rigthteous is it to feed the poor and yet all the while ONE CALLS GOD A LIAR .
HEY epi how righteous is it TO GOD , if a man calls HIM a liar .
HEY epi if i even gave all my goods to the poor and my body to be burned and yet had not CHARITY .
PROFITS ME NOTHING .
HEY EPI CHARITY REJOICES IN T RUTH . NOT IN CALLING GOD A LIAR .
And now a word
WHO is a liar but he who denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST . so guess what epi
THERE IS NO WAY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS IN THOSE who reject and believe NOT that JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
HEY epi inclusivism IS TOTALLY FALSE . in fact
HEY EPI he who believes NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON , DOES call GOD a liar .
HEY EPI all the false religoins as well as all atheist DO CALL GOD A LIAR .
SO , HEY EPI , why did you go after a man for remind the atheist TO BELIEVE ON JESUS .
HEY epi SEE THE PROBLEM YET .
I Go after false lip service every bit as much as you do . ONLY I DONT MAKE VOID THE GOSPEL OF JESUS while doing it .
I POINT ALL to the reminder OF THE DIRE and absolute necessitiy to have to First b eleive on CHRIST .
HEY epi , NOT ONLY WILL YOU NOT DO THAT , you hammer me all the time for reminding the church .
AND EVEN when i told an atheist you called me religious extremist .
HEY epi , YOU f ollowing the wrong love train . IT rejoices IN A BIG OL INCLUSIVE PATH that has made
the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS void . THAT is a lie . And charity would not and does
not rejoice in inquity . AND believe me when i say , ITS INQUITY TO CALL GOD A LIAR epi . watch out for you are in danger .
 

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JESUS said something quite simliar JESUS .
I know you and y ou do that which pleases man . that which is pleasing to man IS ABOMINATION TO GOD .
as clearly also seen when JESUS warned them to beware
of the men who desire to be seen and have the glory and love flattering titles
and love to beleive they are perhaps the only ones to have ever seen the THRONE ROOM OF GOD
and the rest of us , well we just poor wee things that NEED TO heed that man .
And yet that man who cliams such , WELL HE sure do bring a false gospel .
What got lucifer rooted and booted out .
HIS PRIDE
and so too shall the pride of man be his own RUIN .
Not thinking more highly of ourselves than we ought, amen. I think Lucifer must have taken his eyes off the Lord and became enamoured with himself, thinking his beauty was of his own.

I can't remember if I already posted this verse recently, it's been a busy couple of days here with our Thanksgiving:

1Ti 3:6
Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
 
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Rom 2:1-3
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
and there it is . JUDGE NOT taken out of text .
OH i was waiting for it to be typed out by you .
DO you yet realize that satan can even say GOD is love
that satan can even say judge not .
THE PROblEM IS , he twistes the version of love and of judge not , RIGHT INTO A LIE
that actually sliences Correction .
HOW do you t hink satan convinced even a lot of christendom to follow
a god , a love , a unity , a judge not , THAT LED THEM INTO DIRECT TOTAL REBELLION
against THE GOD , HIS CHRIST and has them to believe they are serving THE GOD and HIS CHRIST
when all along they serve satan . ITS not the wolf that barks loudly outside the doors of the church
that is the greatest deciever .
ITS THE WOLF cloaked in wool that is WITHIN IT . BINGO .
 
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Hey epi HOW rigthteous is it to feed the poor and yet all the while ONE CALLS GOD A LIAR .
HEY epi how righteous is it TO GOD , if a man calls HIM a liar .
HEY epi if i even gave all my goods to the poor and my body to be burned and yet had not CHARITY .
PROFITS ME NOTHING .
HEY EPI CHARITY REJOICES IN T RUTH . NOT IN CALLING GOD A LIAR .
And now a word
WHO is a liar but he who denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST . so guess what epi
THERE IS NO WAY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS IN THOSE who reject and believe NOT that JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
HEY epi inclusivism IS TOTALLY FALSE . in fact
HEY EPI he who believes NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON , DOES call GOD a liar .
HEY EPI all the false religoins as well as all atheist DO CALL GOD A LIAR .
SO , HEY EPI , why did you go after a man for remind the atheist TO BELIEVE ON JESUS .
HEY epi SEE THE PROBLEM YET .
I Go after false lip service every bit as much as you do . ONLY I DONT MAKE VOID THE GOSPEL OF JESUS while doing it .
I POINT ALL to the reminder OF THE DIRE and absolute necessitiy to have to First b eleive on CHRIST .
HEY epi , NOT ONLY WILL YOU NOT DO THAT , you hammer me all the time for reminding the church .
AND EVEN when i told an atheist you called me religious extremist .
HEY epi , YOU f ollowing the wrong love train . IT rejoices IN A BIG OL INCLUSIVE PATH that has made
the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS void . THAT is a lie . And charity would not and does
not rejoice in inquity . AND believe me when i say , ITS INQUITY TO CALL GOD A LIAR epi . watch out for you are in danger .
ALL religious extremist cults are exclusive in nature. You would make God a cult leader.....which He is not. God is merciful....you are not. You misrepresent God to be as small and shallow minded as you are...because you have invented a Jesus of make-believe. A fable, a fairy tale as Paul says.

You want me to believe in your make believe version of Jesus. But I am a real disciple of Christ. So keep trying to believe ON Jesus. I think this will be a lifelong effort and obsession on your part.
 

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Rom 2:1-3
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
so warning all in false religoins and all atheist to repent and to believe on JESUS ,
IS NOW JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE CONDMENED . kinda odd miss luariana .
ITS exactly what JESUS preached as well as the apostels .
THEY DIDNT go around to jews and gentiles TRYING TO FIND COMMON GROUND my friend .
THEY preached and preached they DID the dire aboslute necessity TO BELIEVE ON JESUS
and when cities and folks refused . OH Dear they shook the dust off their feet as a testimony against them .
NAMELY THIS TESTIMONY , IT will be WORSE FOR YOU than ever it was for sodom on the day of judgment .
Even the dust of your streets we do shake off against you .
OH DEAR , oh MY , oh wow . GUESS THEY WERE GUILTY OF JUDGING . you all got sold a f at lie .
But that is exactly what a harlot does , she comes in by means of sensual love
and by her love brings them the love of her inclusive father , WHO IS satan . Oh i said it for all to hear .
IT IS satan NOT GOD who is the all inclusvie broad path maker .
 
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ALL religious extremist cults are exclusive in nature. You would make God a cult leader.....which He is not. God is merciful....you are not. You misrepresent God to be as small and shallow minded as you are...because you have invented a Jesus of make-believe. A fable, a fairy tale as Paul says.

You want me to believe in your make believe version of Jesus. But I am a real disciple of Christ. So keep trying to believe ON Jesus. I think this will be a lifelong effort and obsession on your part.
OH i am sure to you it sounds like extremism.
But now allow some parting words of one YE HAD darn sure called an EXTREMIST .
YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS , for if you BELEIVE , BELIEVE NOT , BELIEVE NOT that I AM HE
you shall die in your sins .
AND HE who gathers NOT WITH ME , IS AGAINST ME . oh dear epi , see , see exactly who
YOU WOULD CALL a religious extremist and even hater of GOD . JESUS epi . YOu had called
hiim and all those EXCLUSIVE JESUS ONLY apostels EXTREMISTS .
incluisivism is of anti christ and thus its god is satan who prepares the religoins and christendom and the world
UNTO THE DAY OF ITS UPMOST destruction . THERE WILL BE no peace n safety for them
ON JESUS day .
 
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ALL religious extremist cults are exclusive in nature. You would make God a cult leader.....which He is not. God is merciful....you are not. You misrepresent God to be as small and shallow minded as you are...because you have invented a Jesus of make-believe. A fable, a fairy tale as Paul says.

You want me to believe in your make believe version of Jesus. But I am a real disciple of Christ. So keep trying to believe ON Jesus. I think this will be a lifelong effort and obsession on your part.
Unfortunately Epi, it is you who are calling God small and shallow minded for saying that He so loved the world that He gave His only son THAT WHOEVER WOULD BELIEVE ON HIM will not perish.

The righteousness of man is always trying to show the Lord up and in essence accuses Him of not being righteous enough.
 

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This thread is, again, the same broken record, stuck on skip, by the same band. It was only more tiring for me because I stopped to read some of the posters I mainly just skip over as habit. I only read it in the first place because someone posted that I get a lot of help from listening to and another also posted that I get a little bit from at times.
 

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This is as false as can be. A person is ONLY be credited with righteousness by what they DO. Again, you are confusing righteousness with holiness.

In holiness a man is COVERED by an anointing of God's righteousness by the empowering by the Spirit. As such righteousness is a gift of God.....but that righteousness is always credited to God. It is the righteousness of God, not men. It is for HIS glory not ours.


Human righteousness is by the glory of men....so we go from glory to glory who enter INTO Christ...as the bible teaches us.


The righteousness of God is ONLY credited to God. In the same way that the American flag is always credited to America. You can have one...but it's always the US flag...never your own personal flag.


We will only be judged by OUR WORKS, OUR righteousness, OUR deeds. What we have done in the body.

The only difference between God's house and the world in judgment is the SCALE of the works that are expected. Contrary to evangelical fairy tales....the church will be judged HARDER than the world not easier. To whom much is given MORE is required.


False. It is God's mercy that puts the ball back into our court. Most will NOT seek God for the full measure of grace....they will remain in a victim mentality and thrust all the responsibility for their behaviour onto Jesus. And to make matters even worse they will claim the goodness of Christ as their own. ALL of this confusion based on self-interest.

God's grace provision MAKES a person holy and perfect. From there the works are those that have been prepared in advance...miraculous works.
If what you are referring to is the idea that human righteousness is esteemed by God—as I am not fully sure what you mean given your usual abbreviated and obscure wording—the claim that "Human righteousness is by the glory of men" is not accurate. Scripture clearly teaches that believers are not to possess a righteousness of their own derived from the law or human effort, but instead the righteousness that comes from God through faith in Christ.

The phrase 'glory to glory' describes the ongoing sanctification process outlined in 2 Corinthians 3:18, in which believers are being transformed into the image of Christ; this applies to those who have a personal relationship with God through the Spirit given by His Son.

This transformation occurs as follows:

Unveiled Beholding: Believers behold the glory of the Lord (Jesus/Yeshua the Christ) with an "unveiled face," meaning they perceive God’s character clearly through the New Covenant rather than through the veiled Law of the Old Covenant.

Transformation: As believers focus on Christ, the Holy Spirit works within to transform them from one level of glory to the next, shaping them into His image.

Union with Christ: This occurs because believers are "in Christ," or, as you phrase it, 'INTO Christ,' receiving His righteousness as a gift of grace rather than attaining it through human merit or the "glory of men."

In summary, moving "from glory to glory" describes the spiritual journey of growing more like Jesus through faith and the power of the Spirit, rather than through human accomplishment or self-glory, experienced by true believers rather than merely professing believers or those who only associate with Him and are merely intellectually aware of Christ.
 

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EPI is going after those who say YE MUST FIRST believe . hello .
So that aint even baby steps padnah . You are trying so hard to resist the fact
that epi does that . WHY .
Do you really honor man more than THE SON . ANYONE who is negating the fact that one must first belive on JESUS
IS teaching a false gospel . And not only will he never once
answer me about the fact ONE MUST FIRST BELEIVE , HE GOES after me , or went after me for preaching
TO AN UNBELEIVER , aka AN ATHIEST , OF HIS DIRE NEED to repent and beleive on JESUS .
Cause here is the problem sister .
INCLUSIVISM SOLD EPI a fat lie . and i know all about inclusvism .
IT even believes mulsims , buddists , atheist or any other ist
IS following JESUS and does have the SPIRIT , if they are simply keeping his basic teachings .
FAT LIE sister . lie of anti christ .
WANNA know how easy it is to disprove that .
Because all them false religoins DO NOT acknwledge JESUS as the SON of GOD , CHRIST of GOD .
And you gots to know an atheist darn sure dont .
AND NO MAN BY THE HOLY GHOST would ever call JESUS accursed
and by the HOLY GHOST we call JESUS LORD . But if you want to support a man
who allows unbelief , who allows false religoins to remain in a false religoin
and just sell them all some of jesus teachings and act like that is good enough , THEN THAT IS ON YOU .
GOD desires the GLORY sister , and those false religons as well as an atheist
CALL GOD A LIAR . I SURE DONT SEE ANY GLORY in calling GOD a liar . DO YOU .
Exactly . enough with this false gospel . And expose it i will till the last breath ebbs out my lungs .
AND I , by grace shall pOINT ONLY to JESUS CHRIST with the reminder of the absolute dire need
to BELIEVE HE IS CHRIST , TO BELIEVE HE was crucified for our sins and that HE was raised again for our justification .
Watch out , you have been decieved . and EPI has long been decieved .
Rom. 2:1-3
"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?"
 
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Rom. 2:1-3
"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?"
well take a peek in the mirror lori . a good long look at it .
CAUSE you and your beloved king epi JUDGE ME ev ery time i simply remind folks we do NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS .
ITS yall who judge me the wrong way . NOT I who judge you all the wrong way .
So pour that in your cup of tea and drink long and hard on it . You all willl be the ones
held accountable on the DAY of judg ment . For preaching a false all inclusive gospel
and making war agianst those who actually preached the true gospel that actually can save souls ,.
 

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The all inclusive preach a false hope , a false mercy , a false love .
And how do i know this .
THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD , that we keep HIS commandments .
TO BELIEVE ON JESUS , oops that religous extremism to them , and to love one another .
THAT is not the mercy of G OD . and its hope is false cause it has hope in a lie that omits the dire absolute need
to REPENT and TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . its a works spell preached as love that will save none .
 

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Unfortunately Epi, it is you who are calling God small and shallow minded for saying that He so loved the world that He gave His only son THAT WHOEVER WOULD BELIEVE ON HIM will not perish.

The righteousness of man is always trying to show the Lord up and in essence accuses Him of not being righteous enough.
One thing i know and know absolutely to be true .
ANY who preached a gospel that in any way omitted the fact one MUST beleive on JESUS
is false . And beleive me when i say that a mass majority of inclusivians are christain .
As well as now even in the false religoins more and more of them are as well .
YOU SEE they are now all buying the same lie . NOW THIS LIE is meant to MERGE THEM as one mind
with one heart . the false religoins already beleived the lie , but they were never gonna merge
with the christains either . SO inclusivity was brought in to do so .
YOu see this d elusion will not longer have them pitted agaisnt one another
but now working as on e man with a common goal . IT IS the ulitmiate delusion
sent to the decieved false religions and to the decieved within christendom .
THE SHEEP of JESUS will not buy it .
WE will be seen as the religious extremists by all
the false religoins as well as christendom who bought the inclusive lie .
And by means of a powerful and fully functional AI digital led system
THE ecumeincal inclusive phase , WILL become the crusade phase against any and all
who did not en ter i nto its inclusive bed . Satan used men hungry for power and control
to build this and to prepare all religoins to become one with one common mindset .
THIS is the end hour sister . and the delusion grows .