Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

[Laurina]

Deliverance from the penalty of sin. A.k.a. forgiveness.

Sorry, that doesn't work with Luke 4:18.

"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance (aphesis) to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty (aphesis) them that are bruised,"

How does preaching forgiveness help the captives OR help them that are bruised? It's not forgiveness, it's actually freedom/deliverance/liberty and NOT from the "penalty of sin" but FROM SIN (that which holds us captive).
Why do you add the word "penalty"? Are you a sports fan? Are you making a game of this?

 

[Laurina]

Jesus said that here:

Matthew 26:28
28This is My blood of the covenant,e which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Check the concordance, again it's "aphesis" ...deliverance of sins.
There are no penalties taken here unless you change the meaning of the original words. And that penalty is not a 2 minute sitting out penalty (I'm Canadian so I talk hockey, not football), but a "curses will be added to you" type of penalty...NOT A PENALTY YOU'D WANT TO TAKE!

I can't even read the rest of your post because your premise is wrong.

 

[Laurina]

Forgiveness by and through High Priest and Sacrifice, Jesus Christ, has always been the source of forgiveness from the very beginning of mankind.

2 Timothy 1:9-10
9 This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time, 10but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus

His sacrifice was needed to be able to "cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness."

That MORE than what forgiveness is.

 

[Laurina]

Matt 26:27 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you,
Matt 26:28 for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Baby milk.

Good day ProDeo!!
Sorry Brother, it's actually "for the aphesis (deliverance) of sins."

Try again!
Blessings !

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

His sacrifice was needed to be able to "cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness."

That MORE than what forgiveness is.

The word that best describes that is 'redemption'. Like how a slave has his debt paid off by a rich relative but is also set free from his slavery.

 

[Judge Hardcastle]

Check the concordance, again it's "aphesis" ...deliverance of sins.
There are no penalties taken here unless you change the meaning of the original words. And that penalty is not a 2 minute sitting out penalty (I'm Canadian so I talk hockey, not football), but a "curses will be added to you" type of penalty...NOT A PENALTY YOU'D WANT TO TAKE!

I can't even read the rest of your post because your premise is wrong.

Like the redemption of slaves in the OT, the slave to sin is set free from the taskmaster of sin he has sold himself to BECAUSE someone else in the family who was rich enough paid his debt off, thereby setting him free from his legal obligation to serve sin. In your 'gospel' there is no rich person who comes along and pays your debt for sin, and so you remain in the service of sin trying to pay your debt off yourself. If you think the law of redemption is unreasonable to you, be aware that the law of redemption is in the law and approved by God. It's a picture of what rich brother Jesus has done for his brother Israelites. Us gentiles are included in that.

 

[ProDeo]

David was displeased and afraid of God that day (the importance of having the fear of the Lord??). @ProDeo
.....just saying....

Let's talk about the fear of the Lord and what you mean by that, options -

1. afraid, scared, anxiety, guilt, punishment.

2. Holy Fear, awe, respectfully, reverent, submission.

Your pick ?

Check your Bible, whenever a human has an encounter with the holy what is the first thing that is said ?

Correct, Fear not.

 

[Lizbeth]

How can you murder someone in a state of belief? Once born again of the Spirit do you believe murder can be forgiven? Murder is willful.

Why did God provide a city of refuge for Cain? I think it is possible even for a believer to commit murder, unpremeditated....and it can be forgiven. Same for adultery, I think it's possible for a believer to succumb in a weak moment of temptation and be sorry for it afterwards. The only sin that can't be forgiven according to Jesus, is the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. That is the reason we are not to waste our time praying for someone concerning that. All other sins can be forgiven and that is why we are to pray for someone who sins other sins if we know of or see a brother or sister commit any of them.