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You have already dismissed the true biblical salvation so I won’t be able to convince you otherwise anyway.


Any of you Unsaved Observers out there that wanna get Saved ? Try this —- “ ASK”.
I have it on VERY Good Authority That “ Anybody that “ASKS” to be Saved “WILL” be Saved” .....Find That Promise Of God on Romans 10:13 .It is impossible for God to Lie....
Notice that God does NOT say that He will put you on “ Probation” ......
YOU do your part—ASK .He will do HIS Part—- SAVE. It’s really that simple....God Bless...
 

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Law increases sin.


Wanna see Sin increase in a church? Preach Law.
“The Law was given so that Sin would increase!

WELL!!! I have never “ HEARD” of such a thing!! I know that....And yet some of you continue to think you should come in here and pretend to be a Bible Teacher....
2 Tim.2:15.... “ Study to show yourself approved by God, a workman That need not be ASHAMED .” The Law stirs up the Old Sin Nature”......You didn’t know that? Shame on you .....go away and come back when you learn how to “ Rightly Divide” Scripture....Thanking you in advance....
 
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if that were true then there would be no warnings about a false gospel, a false christ, false gods, the spirit of truth vs the spirit of error, the spirit of God and the spirit of antichrist, true prophets and false prophets, distinguishing of the spirits, etc............

face it you are afraid to say what the gospel really is for fear it will expose you.

I don’t think your analyses is quite right . The typical poor student of God’s Word conjures up a Hodge - Podge Of Religious Mush and THINKS it’s the Gospel

There is only ONE specific Gospel,that saves.....it is Found In 1cor15:1-4......its Paul’s Gospel. Yes, I said that it is PAUL’S Gospel .....Believe it ....don’t “Pervert” it by Adding to it.....REST in it for your Salvation Or God will declare you guilty of Disobedience and UNbelief. Serious stuff, agreed?
Paul said everybody’s Eternal Fate, going to Heaven or Hell will be determined by what you did with “ HIS” Gospel ..... I suggest you have a good answer for God’s inquiry ! God ain’t gonna ask if your “ repentance record” is up to date.God won’t ask about your Pitiful Performance. He WILL ask, “ What did you do with the Gospel? . You heard it here first! Lol......
 
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That claim...your "fact" you said people claim they have a license to sin?


I could get a “ License “ to undergo a daily “ Drano Enema ” . The Point is who would “ want “ one?
Live a Life of Faith Plus Nothing ....let the Holy Spirit hang around long enough and Sinning will become the equivalent of sticking your hand in a fire.....that will put an end to a lot of it....Grace will cover anything left over.....Grace always trump’s sin .....it don't seem fair....deal with it....
 

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What authority do you have?

You have not told me about the gospel yourself.

But Paul preached the gospel perfectly here:

Acts of the Apostles 13:16-39 KJV
[16] Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience. [17] The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it. [18] And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness. [19] And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot. [20] And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet. [21] And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years. [22] And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. [23] Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus: [24] When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel. [25] And as John fulfilled his course, he said, Whom think ye that I am? I am not he. But, behold, there cometh one after me, whose shoes of his feet I am not worthy to loose. [26] Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent. [27] For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him. [28] And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. [29] And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. [30] But God raised him from the dead: [31] And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. [32] And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, [33] God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. [34] And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. [35] Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. [36] For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption: [37] But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption. [38] Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: [39] And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

I believe all of the above.

Great stuff ....just not the Gospel Of Paul That Saves....
 

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You have already dismissed the true biblical salvation so I won’t be able to convince you otherwise anyway.


Any of you Unsaved Observers out there that wanna get Saved ? Try this —- “ ASK”.
I have it on VERY Good Authority That “ Anybody that “ASKS” to be Saved “WILL” be Saved” .....Find That Promise Of God on Romans 10:13 .It is impossible for God to Lie....
Notice that God does NOT say that He will put you on “ Probation” ......
YOU do your part—ASK .He will do HIS Part—- SAVE. It’s really that simple....God Bless...

Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13.

That means specifically calling on the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Acts of the Apostles 4:10-12).

Wanna see Sin increase in a church? Preach Law.
“The Law was given so that Sin would increase!

WELL!!! I have never “ HEARD” of such a thing!! I know that....And yet some of you continue to think you should come in here and pretend to be a Bible Teacher....
2 Tim.2:15.... “ Study to show yourself approved by God, a workman That need not be ASHAMED .” The Law stirs up the Old Sin Nature”......You didn’t know that? Shame on you .....go away and come back when you learn how to “ Rightly Divide” Scripture....Thanking you in advance....

Galatians 3:24-25, the law is to be preached as a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ. Romans 3:20, it shows men that they are sinners in need of the Saviour. Psalms 19:7 (kjv), the law has the power to convert the soul.

Galatians 3:21, it does not have the power to impart life; it converts by showing man that he needs Jesus; the man runs to Jesus to get saved.

I don’t think your analyses is quite right . The typical poor student of God’s Word conjures up a Hodge - Podge Of Religious Mush and THINKS it’s the Gospel

There is only ONE specific Gospel,that saves.....it is Found In 1cor15:1-4......its Paul’s Gospel. Yes, I said that it is PAUL’S Gospel .....Believe it ....don’t “Pervert” it by Adding to it.....REST in it for your Salvation Or God will declare you guilty of Disobedience and UNbelief. Serious stuff, agreed?
Paul said everybody’s Eternal Fate, going to Heaven or Hell will be determined by what you did with “ HIS” Gospel ..... I suggest you have a good answer for God’s inquiry ! God ain’t gonna ask if your “ repentance record” is up to date.God won’t ask about your Pitiful Performance. He WILL ask, “ What did you do with the Gospel? . You heard it here first! Lol......

Jesus died "for" our sins according to the scriptures. That means we are to give him our sins in exchange for His righteousness.

It is all over the Bible that God hates iniquity and that He came to help us out of our sinful state.

He came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21) and to redeem us from all iniquity (Titus 2:14). His blood cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7, Psalms 51:7) and when we confess our sins He is able to cleanse us from all unrighteousness and to forgive us of our sins (1 John 1:9).

Those who are born again and who abide in Him sin not (1 John 3:9, 1 John 3:6) for evermore (1 John 2:17).

Those who are workers of iniquity will be cast into the furnace of fire (Matthew 7:23, Matthew 25:41, Matthew 13:41-42).

How does one cease from being a worker of iniquity unless they repent?

A question for you, @Blood Bought 1953...

The examples that I have given are only the tip of the iceberg!
 
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I could get a “ License “ to undergo a daily “ Drano Enema ” . The Point is who would “ want “ one?
Live a Life of Faith Plus Nothing ....let the Holy Spirit hang around long enough and Sinning will become the equivalent of sticking your hand in a fire.....that will put an end to a lot of it....Grace will cover anything left over.....Grace always trump’s sin .....it don't seem fair....deal with it....

No clue what you are talking about.
 

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Willful sins are like "I know I should not sleep with my boyfriend but thank God I am forgiven.Isn't grace wonderful?"

Poor God...

This kind of stuff just kinda caught Him by complete surprise when He came up with that Crazy “ Grace stuff “ ......God must be secretly Fuming! His Hands are Tied ! Lowly man figured out a way to ham- string the Lord Of The Universe ! Who woulda “ thunk” it ?
Believe it or not , God saw all of this coming . He knows how to deliver “ attitudes adjustments”.A girl doing what she knows is wrong , somehow stupidly thinking that she will sin and “ get away with it.” She just may get away with it for awhile....but if she belongs to Him....God will get around to her soon enough . ( if she does NOT belong to Him, she’s got WAY bigger problems than just Fornication)
God has dealt with a man sleeping with his step- mother.......He has had practice dealing with those that used the Communion Tabke as an opportunity to get drunk.....he has dealt with His anointed Teachers that had learned to Blaspmeme....
If my daughter sins.....I punish her. If she sins with Presumption? Deliberately disobeying me because she thinks because she had turned 18 Or something and became “ untouchable” ...she’s just gonna receive a more Severe Chastisement
We need to stop underestimating God ....that Girl had a Stupid idea in her presumptuous head ...
Trust God —- he can get people to “ come to their senses” and deliver them from any and all types of Foolishness and Stupidity.
If this girl continues in wanton sin.....she could get anything from herpes to AIDS .....she could get pregnant and shipwreck her entire future ....God could strike her dead in an auto accident and “bring her Home way” before her time .....
Foolishness? Stupidity? Trying to Mock Him with presumptuousness? God ain’t gonna be “ mocked” and one has the freedom to Sin with abandon! When she stands before God, if she is a Believer in Jesus , she will still be Saved —- she had “ that” right . Her smugness will not be with her on that day.....she will spend an Eternity with no rewards and she will have welts all over her behind......you think she would recommend her life of “ pleasure” to her little sister if she had one? Legalists everywhere .....get that knot out of your panties.....God ain't gonna damn His Foolish Children bu Ain’t NOBODY “ getting away” with anything......
 

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1Co 6:9, Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11, And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Here we find that fornicators will not inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

Notice the order of progression. First washed, then sanctified, then justified.

Those who have been redeemed are not fornicators any longer...or whatever other sin that is listed there.

If they continued to be fornicators, etc., the scripture is clear...that they will not inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13.

That means specifically calling on the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth (Acts of the Apostles 4:10-12).



Galatians 3:24-25, the law is to be preached as a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ. Romans 3:20, it shows men that they are sinners in need of the Saviour. Psalms 19:7 (kjv), the law has the power to convert the soul.

Galatians 3:21, it does not have the power to impart life; it converts by showing man that he needs Jesus; the man runs to Jesus to get saved.



Jesus died "for" our sins according to the scriptures. That means we are to give him our sins in exchange for His righteousness.

It is all over the Bible that God hates iniquity and that He came to help us out of our sinful state.

He came to save us from our sins (Matthew 1:21) and to redeem us from all iniquity (Titus 2:14). His blood cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7, Psalms 51:7) and when we confess our sins He is able to cleanse us from all unrighteousness and to forgive us of our sins (1 John 1:9).

Those who are born again and who abide in Him sin not (1 John 3:9, 1 John 3:6) for evermore (1 John 2:17).

Those who are workers of iniquity will be cast into the furnace of fire (Matthew 7:23, Matthew 25:41, Matthew 13:41-42).

How does one cease from being a worker of iniquity unless they repent?

A question for you, @Blood Bought 1953...

The examples that I have given are only the tip of the iceberg!



A “ worker of iniquity “ is one who rejects Paul’s Gospel Of 1cor 15 :1-4
That happens by default because if you Believe that Gospel,you are Saved....The only reason you “ believed” that Gospel,is because God gifted you with a visit of the Holy Spirit that “opened your heart” to it ( see the story of Lydia in Acts 16) once you receive that “ Gift from God”......the “Gifts Of God are Without recall”..... you are Saved Forever.....a FORGIVEN worker of iniquity at worst....you WERE “ God’s Enemy “...... now you are a treasured Saved Child Of God .....God Found “ iniquity” in your old heart of stone ......it does not exist anymore in your New Heart Of Flesh....
 
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A “ worker of iniquity “ is one who rejects Paul’s Gospel Of 1cor 15 :1-4
That happens by default because if you Believe that Gospel,you are Saved....The only reason you “ believed” that Gospel,is because gifted you with a visit of the Holy Spirit that “opened your heart” to it ( see the story of Lydia in Acts 16) once you receive that “ Gift from God”......the “Gifts Of God are Without recall”..... you are Saved Forever.....a FORGIVEN worker of iniquity at worst....you WERE “ God’s Enemy “...... now you are a treasured Saved Child Of God .....God Found “ iniquity” in your old heart of stone ......it does not exist anymore in your New Heart Of Flesh....
A worker of iniquity is someone who commits sins...

The one who truly believes 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 is born of God...this is what the Bible says about those who are born of God:

1Jo 3:9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Now this, may indeed be hypoerbole...but if it is, it is indeed exaggeration to make a point...and the point is this...when someone gets born again, they stop walking in the direction of sin and they start walking in the direction of righteousness.

They are this = Proverbs 4:18.

They are ever walking in the direction of righteousness and they will shine brighter and brighter unto the perfect day.

Since sin = darkness and righteousness = light, I think that you can see that those who are born again will walk in greater freedom and victory over sin (darkness) and will walk in greater righteousness (light) as time goes on.

And the beginning of this process should look like the dawning of the morning.

I would also point out my signature at this venture.
 
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A “ worker of iniquity “ is one who rejects Paul’s Gospel Of 1cor 15 :1-4

So you presumptuously assume that a worker of iniquity is one who only denies the scripture passages later assigned the chapter and verse numbers of 15:1-4 in 1 Corinthians?

And you also believe that the willful sin mentioned in Hebrews 10:26 only applies to those who return to Judaism.

Are you really going to hedge your bets on these very flawed assumptions knowing what the consequences of being wrong might be?

Especially when the scriptures do not say these things?
 

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So you presumptuously assume that a worker of iniquity is one who only denies the scripture passages later assigned the chapter and verse numbers of 15:1-4 in 1 Corinthians?

And you also believe that the willful sin mentioned in Hebrews 10:26 only applies to those who return to Judaism.

Are you really going to hedge your bets on these very flawed assumptions knowing what the consequences of being wrong might be?

Especially when the scriptures do not say these things?
He's not going to get your point, @Michiah-Imla.
 
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@Blood Bought 1953 , explain for us how one "turn(s) the grace of our God into a license for immorality" so we can be careful not to do that.


The answer to your question is in the second half of the verse you put forth .....these men were Jesus Deniers.....it was the “ way” of Unsaved , Wicked men...simply put....they were Unbelievers .....headed for Hell for the same reason that got ALL the denizens Of Hell sent there.....unbelief ....
I do declare.....sometimes it's like “ shooting fish in a barrel” with some of you guys! Wanna move on now to “ Sin Boldly” or “ Love God and live as you please?” ......lol....

For the record and for the on-Looking world that thinks there is-not enough “ Love” exhibited in these Forums——- these guys think My Doctrines are sending souls to Hell. I think the same of their Doctrines.Paul taught about REBUKING fellow Believers .I bet the arguments they had were about much less Serious issues than we are contending with .
If these guys think I am sending people to Hell they would be EXTREMELY amiss If they were not “ letting me have it”——- with BOTH Barrels ! That goes BOTH ways!
We are talking Heaven and Hell here. Both sides are human . Don’t confuse Fully justified Passionate Debates with Hatred . If you refuse to get angry at somebody you think is damning others...YOU just might be the one with the Problem....
This kind of stuff, to me is just like “ water off a duck’s back”..... I’m quite sure my debating foes aren’t crying at the little jibes that I send their way either.....I have seen debaters become the best of friends......it could happen here! All that is necessary for this to happen here is for my foes to admit that they are woefully ignorant and admit that BB has been perfectly correct about everything that has been touched upon....lol.....a little-joke there.....haha....
 

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The answer to your question is in the second half of the verse you put forth .....these men were Jesus Deniers.....it was the “ way” of Unsaved , Wicked men...simply put....they were Unbelievers .....headed for Hell for the same reason that got ALL the denizens Of Hell sent there.....unbelief ....
I do declare.....sometimes it's like “ shooting fish in a barrel” with some of you guys! Wanna move on now to “ Sin Boldly” or “ Love God and live as you please?” ......lol....

Heb 3:12, Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13, But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Here, unbelief is associated with the deceitfulness of sin.

It is saying that sin is deceitful and may lead you to have an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.

So then, "UNBELIEF" and "SIN"" go hand-in-hand...
 

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So you presumptuously assume that a worker of iniquity is one who only denies the scripture passages later assigned the chapter and verse numbers of 15:1-4 in 1 Corinthians?

And you also believe that the willful sin mentioned in Hebrews 10:26 only applies to those who return to Judaism.

Are you really going to hedge your bets on these very flawed assumptions knowing what the consequences of being wrong might be?

Especially when the scriptures do not say these things?

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

The plan is laid out all the way back in Genesis in the Garden of Eden you are without excuse, The willful sin that Dams you Is rejecting the only sacrifice God offers for your sins then there remains no more sacrifice for your sin, Are you really going to hedge your bets on your own works and be judged by the law instead of resting in the finished work of Jesus
 
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O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

The plan is laid out all the way back in Genesis in the Garden of Eden you are without excuse, The willful sin that Dams you Is rejecting the only sacrifice God offers for your sins then there remains no more sacrifice for your sin, Are you really going to hedge your bets on your own works and be judged by the law instead of resting in the finished work of Jesus
I see that you are talking to @Michiah-Imla here.

But I know that I have not rejected the only sacrifice for sins that God has made for me; and I also do place my complete hope in what Jesus did for me on the Cross.

That being said, I know also that His sacrifice didn't only justify me (as per Romans 5:9)...it also sanctified me (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses me from all sin (1 John 1:7).

Now, do you believe that the blood has been applied to your life, @HisLife?

What did it do in your life?

When it is applied, can it justify and not also sanctify and cleanse you at the same time?

Can it be applied and not perform all of its functions?

Food for thought.
 

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Romans 5:5 tells us that we can indeed love the Lord our God with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength because of the Holy Ghost who has come to dwell in us.



See Romans 2:13. it is not that we are justified by keeping the law; but that those who become doers of the law will be justified.

It is to say that those who are justified by Christ will become doers of the law (Romans 8:4, Romans 8:7, Romans 5:5, Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6). Because the law is the specifics of the love of God (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6)



I have never believed that you have to confess every sin in order to be saved (while I don't take any chances on this; and confess sin any time the Holy Spirit pinpoints it to my mind; whether it happened thirty minutes ago or thirty years ago). I have always believed that sin is a direction that people walk towards...and that repentance (which is necessary for salvation) is to make a 180-degree turn away from sin, death, and hell, towards righteousness, life, and heaven. To simply confess, "I am a sinner" is enough for 1 John 1:9 to come into effect...one does not need to confess all of the sins one has ever committed in order to lay a hold of the promise in 1 John 1:9...that He will forgive you of your sins and cleanse you from all unrighteousness.


Just answer this....yes or no please....
At penny falls under the table...... I reach under the table to get it.....I got up too quickly and bumped my head very hard.....In my shock and pain I yelled out the “ F- Bomb”..... more that just once! I died suddenly of a heart attack Before I had the “ Luck” to Repent in time..I had been a Believer who had Rested in the Gospel Of 1Cor15:1-4 for 50 years....will I go to Hell when I die?
Have the Courage Of your Convictions—- please give me a simple yes or no.thanks.
 
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