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Featured So, How Does Everybody Feel About This? (Talks about sins that involve LGBTQ)

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  1. April_Rose

    April_Rose Well-Known Member

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    So,.. there's this new YouTuber that I like that I will post a video of down below and I recently found out that he is Transgender which means he wasn't born a male even though he actually looks like one. The Thing is, although I do believe very strongly in the fact that God doesn't make mistakes and the fact that everybody should be happy being who they are and biologically speaking our sex never changes,.. I don't agree with the fact that some Christians are hating the sin AND the sinner which The Bible speaks against as we're only supposed to hate the sin itself.





    So in other words people like this who actually seem like rather kind and funny people still shouldn't get hate comments even if you find what they're doing isn't right as we're not always going to agree with everybody,.. but this guy certainly isn't hurting people and he appears to be enjoying his life so I say whatever floats your boat. For Jesus loves the LGBTQ community too and I don't think anybody here can say that we are sinless. So anyways, those are my thoughts and I actually like a lot of his videos like this one and find him rather attractive and since he looks so much like a guy I wouldn't have known if he hadn't of said anything and so I don't find it as weird.







     
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    Eternally Grateful Well-Known Member

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    Like I always say, your not going to bring them to God by judging them. God did not send Jesus or us to judge the world but to save it. We need to worry about their eternity, once they come to Christ if they do God will work on their sin.

    and I am not just saying this because I think it I am saying it because I have witnessed it, we have a few at our church who used to struggle with this, this love of the believers won them over, then God changed their heart
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    Be on gaurd sister . Its not what floats ones boat . I can witness to these people the same as i can anyone else .
    But never let them feel that this is okay in the eyes of God .
     
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    That's quite a big adams apple "he" has! :D
     
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    God loves us all, but that is not the same as tolerating it all.

    God's holiness does not change even if the Media says it should.
     
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    Oh I never said that it was right,.. I'm just saying that I believe that as long as they aren't hurting anybody they should be free to live their own lives even though I will still pray for them. Besides, how do you know what they're going through? As somebody who used to struggle with self-esteem issues myself maybe they just felt like this was their only option. Christians have been known to struggle with these kinds of things and doesn't mean that they love God any less, they just have struggles like we all do just different ones. And like I said before that's still no excuse to show them hate just because they're doing something that we believe is wrong.
     
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    No and we shouldn't tolerate the behavior but the person themselves needs love and understanding too. Maybe they don't know that it's wrong. Maybe they have never been taught about Jesus before. I'm just saying who knows?
     
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    Freewill is really freedom with consequences.

    I believe in personal freedom,......... after all, its your life, Reader.
    Live it.

    Jesus said, i give you LIFE and that more abundantly..
    Life is designed to be enjoyed.
    Imagine Jesus smiling at you all the time, and you've finally seen Him.

    Here is how to start your day, and it'll change your day and can change your life.

    "good morning Father God, good morning Lord, and good morning Holy Spirit, you are all WELCOME HERE".

    Try that everyday for a year when you first wake up and start your day.
    You'll see.

    So, as i was saying...

    Live your life...enjoy it....., knowing that freedom has a boundary and that is : consequences.
    So, if you are willing to deal with the consequences of all your personal choices, then right there is your freedom found.
     
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    Yes point being that even though we should still try and witness to these people God gave them just as much free will as He gave us.
     
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    Revised - edited.
     
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    I have known people that were gay and transgender before yes but that's all that I'm going to say about it as I don't want to it to get too personal. Just remember what I've posted above though it is true that there are people like this who want to come to Jesus but are afraid that they can't because of their struggle and I really don't think that we should see these kinds of people any differently than other sinners.
     
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    I agree, I don't think he was ever a woman for real.
     
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    Actually he was. Unless he's making it up I was just watching this.




     
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    April, have you read the bible, the new testament and the old testament and what God says about homosexuality? If not then I would read all the bible texts relevant to homosexuality. Here's a good link: https://www.catholichawaii.org/media/224239/bible_verses_about_homosexuality.pdf

    The reason homosexuals have a problem with religion and want God out of the government is to reduce discrimination. The bible is very discriminating against homosexuals, in fact in Moses time it was lawful to kill them. With the new covenant and Jesus salvation there is no more law to kill them, now it is frowned upon us to kill anyone sinner or not, but the new testament also condemns the behavior of homosexuality. Both the New Testament and Old Testament discriminate against homosexuals.
     
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    Yes I read the Bible and I think they're discriminating against homosexuality itself because if you're expecting me to discriminate against another human being then I'm sorry but you're talking to the WRONG person and I actually had to take some deep breaths because this comment actually made me mad.
     
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    LOL . . . not unless we're doing Adam's Apple implants these days. haha
     
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    Sorry if I offended you, I was just speaking from bible teachings. The typical biblical interpretation discrimination that happens today is that homosexuals do not hold office in a church and homosexuality is not promoted in church meetings either. That to most GBLT is a terrible discrimination, not to accept their behavior as OK. Most churches that do not let homosexuals hold office probably look at this verse:

    1 Timothy 3:2
    A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;”
     
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    I agree. Jesus did not come to heal those who didn't need to be healed, but those who are sick. All of John chapter 9 deals with this. Physical healings in the NT point to the Spiritual Healing that only Christ offers. So . . .

    Remember all the chaos from the USA cake baker who refused to give the gay couple a wedding cake? I would have made that cake! In fact, if I had that business, I'd have used that as a chance to welcome the gay community and do business with them, for this is the opportunity that he has been waiting for! Look . . . no one can force the baker to create a cake with two sugary figurines doing the "nasty" on top of the wedding cake . . . so I'm sure their request was for a relatively "normal" cake outside of the fact that it had two men's names upon it. Big deal! We Christians are supposed to let all heathens know that we genuinely love them.

    Good for you and making this stand!
     
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    It's alright,.. I'm not saying that it's okay or it should be promoted but it's totally different than discriminating another person,.. AKA a human being.
     
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    Again there's a difference between accepting their behavior and accepting them. Hate the sin but LOVE the sinner!!! Is it really all that difficult to understand!?
     
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