mjrhealth said:
Actually Jesus is, it was Him and Him alone given that tile till men came along and made God a liar, even He quotes in teh bible that scripture doesnt give you life only He does yet He is ignored as always, So tell me which God do you worship, the NIV version te hKN teh NKG the NSV or one of the other 70 versions of God ???? One God, one Jesus one Holy Spirirt one truth yet over 70 versions of His Word. amazing isnt it. Never said teh bibel doesnt have what God has to say, jsut said it isnt His word. teh devil and God are not one and teh same so when te hdevils speaks it isnt Gods word, unless your God is teh devil.
Jesus is the Word made flesh. The Bible is the word of God. Note the punctuation.
Mjrhealth, you seem to have a problem that Satan is quoted in the Bible, as are many men. Some of them Holy men, some of them are Satan's. In fact, a little realized fact is that Nebuchanezzar even has a testimony in the Bible!
It still is God's word and his testimony. It is his story and necessary that he had to commission the words of others to fully tell his testimony.
If you grab a red letter edition of the Bible... Any one of them... And if you only read what Jesus said you would be lost in context without the black words. But the black words as well as the red words were commmissioned by God. That same Holy Spirit which you claim whispers in your ear did so to Moses through John. Holy men of old moved on by the spirit.
I vow to make this the last time I voice my opinion on this. I hope I can keep that vow. But my problem is that you claim Jesus talks to you and that is the Word (and the word) yet what his own Apostles wrote isn't? What God's prophets isn't? Even Luke, James, Jude.... Men who were close to Jesus... Some even half brothers in the flesh and others commissioned by Apostles... That isn't the word of God?
Personally, I have never said God ain't talking to you. I have my doubts, because I don't believe any spirit of God is going to stray from the scripture nor deny it is His testimony.
The Bible says to try the spirits. Human nature itself and common sense would agree. If a spirit is talking to you about religious issues then you should have something to compare it to.
Yes, there are a lot of versions. I myself stick to the KJV and I have my reasons. But I've never faulted anyone for going with another. Furthermore, I don't see many of them denying what Christ nor what his Holy men said on a large scale.
When we (you and I) get away from this Bible issue being the word of God.... You and I agree on some key points. I love your stance on grace for example!
But no... Jesus never said the Bible isn't the word of God. In fact he validated it when he said it testified of him.
The Bible as his word points us to him. This is why he himself quoted it, those who knew him in the flesh (Peter, Matthew, Mark,John, etc...) quoted it and even those who were touched by him in the spirit (Paul) quoted it.
So for you to deny it doesn't make much sense to me. Especially when it is what you quote so often.
I love ya bro. I agree with much you say.... But I would like to make this my last word on this controversy.