Soul Sleep yes or no?

[Behold]

You are a strange person Behold....do you know this?

I dont appreciate your carnal insult.
You are sort of a religious person, whose posts are obtuse and try to sound spiritual.

Here is the thing.
Real spirituality, always sounds "strange" to people who have none.
Thats a fact.

I could try to explain to you, what is meant by, being "translated from darkness to Light", and that Light is "God exists in Light" and ""Jesus is the Light of the world"", and all the born again are ""Children of the Light".
However, it won't register with you.
See, it'll all sound "strange" to you..

It is what it is, @face2face.

 

[Behold]

Okay so you dont believe you are literally in Heaven right now - which is the point originally made - you made that harder than it had to be....but I get the feeling you like it that way.

I said just the opposite.
Even explained it carefully.

Try this, and remember, this only applies the the BORN AGAIN.

Learn this about your "Sonship" as "one with God.

1.) When God saved you, He knew that the Blood Atonement, was going to remove the dominion of the Law from you.

The born again are "not under the Law, but under Grace".

"Christ is the END of the LAW, for Righteousness, to everyone who BELIEVES".

What does that mean?

It means that when you are born again, SAINT you "have been translated from Darkness......to Light".

You become a "child of the LIGHT< and God "'exists in LIGHT"", and "Jesus is the Light of the World".

This means, the born again EXIST, in....the Kingdom of God., right now and forever.

This is why the NT teaches us that we are = "seated in heavenly places, In Christ"., right now.

That is the born again "new creation" in Christ,"", and that is not your body or your mind.... that is the SON/Daughter of God, born again, spiritually.

So, as the born again exist now, in God's Kingdom...... they discover something, by revelation, that im going to give you that is the "renewed mind" understanding.

A.) In God's Kingdom, where the born again have been "translated" into,= that is Heaven = that is the KOG..
There is no Moses Law or 10 Commandments found there..
See, the Law and 10 Commandments are created for SINNERS, down here.... and they are designed to bring you to the CROSS so that God can birth you into the KOG....as "in Christ'..."one with God"...."made Righteous"...as "the righteousness of God, in Christ'"
This means that there is no law or similar that can define you as a sinner or your deeds as sin, if you are born again.

"""where there is NO LAW... (Heaven) (KOG) there is no Transgression".

This is why John teaches this regarding the born again...

"As JESUS IS.......so are the born again..... in This World">..

 

[face2face]

I said just the opposite.

modus operandi?

 

[Behold]

modus operandi?

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[face2face]

I dont appreciate your carnal insult.

No, being strange in how one communicates is an observation.

You are sort of a religious person, whose posts are obtuse and try to sound spiritual.

I'm not trying to do anything but present what is true.

Here is the thing.
Real spirituality, always sounds "strange" to people who have none.
Thats a fact.

True, but you say one thing, and then contradict yourself by posting a Scripture that teaches the opposite.
Surely you can see what you did?

If you can't just say so.

 

[face2face]

@Behold

You can't say Jesus is All Powerful and then put up a verse that teaches he was given Power.

Surely you can see how nonsensical that is.

“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me" Matthew 28:18.

If you can't see this how can anyone communicate with you?

F2F

 

[Behold]

No, being strange in how one communicates is an observation.

I hate dealing with liars on a Forum, like you. @face2face

Here is your quote.

""""You are a strange person Behold....do you know this?""""

Notice that you are not talking about what you just said in your post? "how once communicates".

Now, do you want to lie again?

Is that your ""modus operandi" ?????

Also, no contradiction, was posted by me.
You just misunderstood it, because what i said is spiritual understanding.

 

[face2face]

I said just the opposite.
Even explained it carefully.

Try this, and remember, this only applies the the BORN AGAIN.

Learn this about your "Sonship" as "one with God.

1.) When God saved you, He knew that the Blood Atonement, was going to remove the dominion of the Law from you.

The born again are "not under the Law, but under Grace".

"Christ is the END of the LAW, for Righteousness, to everyone who BELIEVES".

What does that mean?

It means that when you are born again, SAINT you "have been translated from Darkness......to Light".

You become a "child of the LIGHT< and God "'exists in LIGHT"", and "Jesus is the Light of the World".

This means, the born again EXIST, in....the Kingdom of God., right now and forever.

This is why the NT teaches us that we are = "seated in heavenly places, In Christ"., right now.

That is the born again "new creation" in Christ,"", and that is not your body or your mind.... that is the SON/Daughter of God, born again, spiritually.

So, as the born again exist now, in God's Kingdom...... they discover something, by revelation, that im going to give you that is the "renewed mind" understanding.

A.) In God's Kingdom, where the born again have been "translated" into,= that is Heaven = that is the KOG..
There is no Moses Law or 10 Commandments found there..
See, the Law and 10 Commandments are created for SINNERS, down here.... and they are designed to bring you to the CROSS so that God can birth you into the KOG....as "in Christ'..."one with God"...."made Righteous"...as "the righteousness of God, in Christ'"
This means that there is no law or similar that can define you as a sinner or your deeds as sin, if you are born again.

"""where there is NO LAW... (Heaven) (KOG) there is no Transgression".

This is why John teaches this regarding the born again...

"As JESUS IS.......so are the born again..... in This World">..

I asked you a very simple question.

Do you believe you are literally in Heaven as I type?

This is a yes or a no answer?

I say no!

 

[face2face]

I hate dealing with liars on a Forum, like you. @face2face

Here is your quote.

""""You are a strange person Behold....do you know this?""""

Notice that you are not talking about what you just said in your post? "how once communicates".

Now, do you want to lie again?

Is that your ""modus operandi" ?????

Also, no contradiction, was posted by me.
You just misunderstood it, because what i said is spiritual understanding.

You still present as one who is strange to communicate with.

You say one thing then provide Scripture that teaches another.

How can Jesus be All POWERFUL if as you quote Power was given to him.

Explain?

 

[Behold]

@Behold

You can't say Jesus is All Powerful and then put up a verse that teaches he was given Power.

As i said.

once Jesus was RESURRECTED... HE Then said....

"all power is given to me, in heaven, and on earth".

He is no longer the "suffering servant".. He is back to John 1.. "The Word was God".

 

[face2face]

As i said.

once Jesus was RESURRECTED... HE Then said....

"all power is given to me, in heaven, and on earth".

He is no longer the "suffering servant".. He is back to John 1.. "The Word was God".

So Jesus isn't ALL POWERFUL then.

Who gave him the Power?

 

[Behold]

Do you believe you are literally in Heaven as I type?

I posted the teaching.
The answer to your question, is right there in front of you.....
Try reading it.

 

[Behold]

So Jesus isn't ALL POWERFUL then.

Who gave him the Power?

I see.
You are a denier of the Trinity.
That's your issue, among others...
Be glad Calvin isn't the Mod here, or he'd burn you at the stake.... like the other one he helped murder.
You want to argue your cult's position, and deny the Deity of Christ..
Got it.
Understood...


"All Power"

Like this..

Jesus said...."If you've seen me, you've seen the Father"

Jesus said.."I and my Father are one".

Notice this...

"""""JESUS>..Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD... = But made himself of no reputation, and took upon himself the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men;""""

Notice carefully @face2face..

Jesus = .. "but made HIMSELF of no reputation".

What is that?
Its the answer to your question.. about "power"

Its just like this.. Jesus said... "I have the power to lay down my life, and I HAVE THE POWER, to take it up again".

 

[Keturah]

True, but you say one thing, and then contradict yourself by posting a  scripture that teaches the opposite.
Surely you can see what you did?

.

I wholeheartedly agree with the above.........hmmm, double-minded ........ Or else lacking spiritual understanding!

 

[Behold]

I wholeheartedly agree with the above.........hmmm, double-minded ........ Or else lacking spiritual understanding!

Agreeing with false accusations or posting them, isn't as smart as you thought.
And you have nothing better to do then hope that someone will disagree with me so you can run in here and make another snide comment?

"by their fruit, you shall know them" @Keturah .

Thats a fact.
Believe it.

But, i do like the fact that you keep changing your "alt".
So, thats a win for you.

 

[face2face]

Its just like this.. Jesus said... "I have the power to lay down my life, and I HAVE THE POWER, to take it up again".

And we established firstly, Who gave him Power, and we know Who resurrected him. We are told countless times in the Book of the Acts.

Acts 2:24

But God raised Him up again, putting an end to the agony of death, since it was impossible for Him to be held in its power.

Acts 3:15

but put to death the Prince of life, the one whom God raised from the dead, a fact to which we are witnesses.

Acts 4:10

let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by this name this man stands here before you in good health.

Acts 5:30

The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross.

Acts 10:40

God raised him up on the third day and granted that He become visible,

Acts 13:30

But God raised him from the dead;

Acts 13:34

As for the fact that He raised him up from the dead, no longer to return to decay, He has spoken in this way: ‘I will give you the holy and sure blessings of David.’

It's such a shame you resist to speak as the Scripture records it for you.

Always twisting it - manipulating it into your own version of truth.

F2F

 

[face2face]

I see.
You are a denier of the Trinity.
That's your issue, among others...
Be glad Calvin isn't the Mod here, or he'd burn you at the stake.... like the other one he helped murder.
You want to argue your cult's position, and deny the Deity of Christ..
Got it.
Understood...


"All Power"

Like this..

Jesus said...."If you've seen me, you've seen the Father"

Jesus said.."I and my Father are one".

Notice this...

"""""JESUS>..Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD... = But made himself of no reputation, and took upon himself the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men;""""

Notice carefully @face2face..

Jesus = .. "but made HIMSELF of no reputation".

What is that?
Its the answer to your question.. about "power"

Its just like this.. Jesus said... "I have the power to lay down my life, and I HAVE THE POWER, to take it up again".

Also for the Admin reading here - Behold is the one who said one thing and quoted another. It's on record that Power was given to Jesus and for that reason he cannot be All Powerful.
F2F

 

[Behold]

And we established firstly, Who gave him Power, and we know Who resurrected him. We are told countless times in the Book of the Acts.

When you get the revelation that Jesus is "God manifested in the Flesh".

When you understand that the reason that Jesus didnt correct Thomas when Thomas said to Jesus.... "my Lord and my God"...
When you understand why God would not correct Thomas, then you'll be able to understand.

"I have the power to lay down my life and i have the power to take it up again".

Why did Jesus say that?

Because Jesus told YOU... "I am THE RESURRECTION, and THE LIFE".

You dont believe this yet, but, there is coming a day ...

 

[face2face]

When you get the revelation that Jesus is "God manifested in the Flesh".

When you understand that the reason that Jesus didnt correct Thomas when Thomas said to Jesus.... "my Lord and my God"...
When you understand why God would not correct Thomas, then you'll be able to understand.

"I have the power to lay down my life and i have the power to take it up again".

Why did Jesus say that?

Because Jesus told YOU... "I am THE RESURRECTION, and THE LIFE".

You dont believe this yet, but, there is coming a day ...

You are still resisting the original truth shown to you.
Go back and read what you wrote and see how in your own words you contradicted yourself and Scripture.
You can shoot the messenger as many times as you like!
The trail leads back to this fact.
F2F

 

[Behold]

Behold is the one who said one thing and quoted another.

Here is what is on record..

You keep making that false accusation, but you dont quote me.
See, you are confused.
I said only one thing, posting a verse, and you decided that this is "2 different thing".
I never said that.
You did.