Speaking in Tongues a Cessationist View

[Dave L]

You do not seem to understand Charismatics and Pentecostals are are different. Just like mainstream Pentecostals are not WOF.

Both believe basically the same.

 

[Willie T]

She was not speaking in biblical tongues. Biblical tongues were NT scripture being written and ceased with the Apostles who distributed the gift. About the time scripture was complete.

I could, and sometimes WANT to, give you a "LIKE"...…. But, just as in this post, when you might say something I agree with in your first sentence, I can be sure you will almost always blow it by continuing to claim other things as the post goes on.

 

[amadeus]

You need scripture to support your understanding. True Faith does not exist apart from that.

Scripture [the flesh eaten] + the Spirit [Quickener of the flesh ] = the Word Alive in a person, [me in this case]!

 

[bbyrd009]

If it was genuine, it would have been world wide involving the whole church. Not just a few hicks who knew less about Acts than most Sunday school kids.

well, so you say, I dunno, but I wouldn't discount that those who showed up might have just been of one accord in that moment, and maybe the principles had like little or nothing to do with it really, other than being smart enough to get out of the way. But I wouldn't argue that by the time about four or five of them got together and decided to write something down it was prolly over too

 

[bbyrd009]

You believe what you want. I don't believe in tongues today. They were done away with when the scriptures we're completed. I disagree with your interpretation of the scriptures concerning tongues. The scriptures are very specific, written down in black and white. The gift of tongues was one of the gifts that proved the Christian congregation was the organization The True God Jehovah was working through instead of the Jewish system with it's temple and sacrificial alter. Tongues was also a gift used in the furtherance of the preaching of the kingdom of God. Specifically tongues we're for convincing the unbeliever not the believer. Unbelievers were not given the gift of interpretation of tongues

Well BB, xenoglossy did not require interpretation though right, it was the unbeliever who understood in his own language

 

[rockytopva]

Within our Pentecostal Holiness church.... A joy unspeakable and full of glory! Especially in knowing I am spreading this stuff worldwide!

 

[Dave L]

Within our Pentecostal Holiness church.... A joy unspeakable and full of glory! Especially in knowing I am spreading this stuff worldwide!

Mindless babbling relieves stress even among Voodoo practitioners.

Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction

 

[bbyrd009]

I could, and sometimes WANT to, give you a "LIKE"...…. But, just as in this post, when you might say something I agree with in your first sentence, I can be sure you will almost always blow it by continuing to claim other things as the post goes on.

although I'm not sure now how correct it is to say that she was not following Scripture, everyone crawls before they walk I guess

 

[Waiting on him]

Mindless babbling relieves stress even among Voodoo practitioners.

Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction

Matthew 6:7 KJV
[7] But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do : for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Tecarta Bible
Greek: βαττολογέω
Transliteration: battologeō
Pronunciation: bat-tol-og-eh'-o
Definition: From Βάττος Battos (a proverbial stammerer) and G3056; to stutter that is (by implication) to prate tediously: - use vain repetitions.

 

[Waiting on him]

Mindless babbling relieves stress even among Voodoo practitioners.

Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction

People need to find a better way to relieve stress.

 

[rockytopva]

Mindless babbling relieves stress even among Voodoo practitioners.

Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction

The Pharisees were accusing Christ of casting out devils through Beelzebub, when in fact he was doing it through the power of the Holy Spirit. Christ let them know their insults were not against him, but in his underlying power, which is the Holy Spirit.

24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. - Matthew 12

If you are correct in your analysis all is good and well. But if the people you are making fun of are actually Spirit filled be it known that you are not making fun of them, but of their underlying power, which is the Holy Spirit.

 

[bbyrd009]

Mindless babbling relieves stress even among Voodoo practitioners.

Speaking in Tongues: Glossalalia and Stress Reduction

Ha careful that one doesn't come back to bite you I guess lol
Glossololia was not invented in Christianity either, but that doesn't mean there aren't Pents more accepted than us I guess, strictly on attitude

 

[bbyrd009]

People need to find a better way to relieve stress.

are you sure? Bc I may even agree with you guys on the technicals, but they might be doing you a huge favor too.

 

[Waiting on him]

their underlying power,

???

 

[Waiting on him]

are you sure? Bc I may even agree with you guys on the technicals, but they might be doing you a huge favor too.

Agreed, this is a good a diversion as any.

 

[rockytopva]

Charles Stanley come out of the Virginia Pentecostal Holiness church, in which I am also a member.... https://www.intouch.org/read/magazine/the-pulpit/enduring-witness

 

[Waiting on him]

Charles Stanley come out of the Virginia Pentecostal Holiness church, in which I am also a member.... Enduring Witness

Charles Stanley is a man. I believe he’d tell you the same. Made subject to vanity

 

[bbyrd009]

Agreed, this is a good a diversion as any.

I was often encouraged to Read for myself in the Pent congregation, great incubator imo

 

[Waiting on him]

I was often encouraged to Read for myself in the Pent congregation, great incubator imo

Never the less He’s preached

 

[Waiting on him]

Never the less He’s preached

I guess it’s the immaturity just gets under my skin sometimes.