Speaking in Tongues, why so many false speakers?

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You have proclaimed yourself judge over me. But I tell you Satan, I'm not worried. You use the scriptures as a way to justify your own ignorance boasting yourself up, so you can talk down to the Saints of the most high God. I have personally used tongues in a church where tongues is not permited, imagine that. This local church was having a prayer night meeting; basically a prayer meeting. I walked in, took my place with a group of men and women holding hands, and I stood beside them. I laid my head down, and I began to pray in tongues very quietly, in a whisper, until I felt the spirit move. The woman next to me was the youngest in the group and the holy spirit had me focus on her. I sensed she was filled with sorrow inside, and the holy spirit revealed to me that she was praying for a man to come into her life, but that God had not answered her prayer. She came because she needed God to talk to her and comfort her. I saw it clearly. I continued to pray, louder now, and she could hear me ministring to her in the spirit. Then I spoke the interpretation. She wept when she heard me tell her that her husband to be was in the same room looking for her, and that in this very hour they would meet. She asked me if I was a prophet, no I told her quietly, I am simply serving and that God had this, and it is to Him she needs to be thanking and glorifying. She said I'm going to tell my mom and left, and I began to make my way back out knowing I had fulfilled God's desire. She caught me by the front door and said, I believe my future husband was standing in my Mother's group and I just want to thank you so much for praying for me. I said God bless you and that was the end of it.

But just so you know mister. You have no right...NONE!...to put down saints who have proven to bring multitudes of people to Jesus Christ over the years, and unless you can produce as many souls before God who have recieved Jesus thanks to Kenneth Copeland, YOU HAVE NOTHING IN YOUR HEART EXCEPT CONTEMPT FOR THOSE WHO SERVE GOD.

What does it matter to you whether I speak in tongues or not, your not my cop, prosecutor, judge or jury. You have no power over me unless you're a self proclaimed fool. You'd be better off learning scriptures about what God thinks about fools, then what you think you know about tongues.
 

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unless you can produce as many souls before God who have recieved Jesus thanks to Kenneth Copeland, YOU HAVE NOTHING IN YOUR HEART EXCEPT CONTEMPT FOR THOSE WHO SERVE GOD.

So Copeland kissing the ring of the pope falsely claiming the pope is a Christian is no problem for the "spirit" leading you?

Sounds like the "spirit" leading you doesn't know what God's Word teaches very well.
 

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So Copeland kissing the ring of the pope falsely claiming the pope is a Christian is no problem for the "spirit" leading you?

Sounds like the "spirit" leading you doesn't know what God's Word teaches very well.
You like changing subjects when your rat hole gets plugged. You said nothing about the pope, you said "SPEAKING IN TONGUES" and how wrong it is and then pointed to Copeland.

As far as the pope and the ring, that could be pure speculation. I don't believe anything you read.





















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you said "SPEAKING IN TONGUES" and how wrong it is

No, you have reading comprehension issue.

I never said speaking in tongues was wrong.

I said speaking in tongues in a public setting without an interpreter present to interpret is wrong and I posted the scripture that says exactly that.

As far as the pope and the ring, that could be pure speculation.

The speculation is on your end. Copeland is a heretic that accepts false religions as being Christian not to mention he teaches once saved always saved which is heresy

Watch this video and see Copeland carrying on like the catholics pope is an actual Christian, go to the 39:00 mark and listen to his prayer for the heretic pope.

 

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No, you have reading comprehension issue.

I never said speaking in tongues was wrong.

I said speaking in tongues in a public setting without an interpreter present to interpret is wrong and I posted the scripture that says exactly that.



The speculation is on your end. Copeland is a heretic that accepts false religions as being Christian not to mention he teaches once saved always saved which is heresy

Watch this video and see Copeland carrying on like the catholics pope is an actual Christian, go to the 39:00 mark and listen to his prayer for the heretic pope.

No, you have reading comprehension issue.

I never said speaking in tongues was wrong.

I said speaking in tongues in a public setting without an interpreter present to interpret is wrong and I posted the scripture that says exactly that.



The speculation is on your end. Copeland is a heretic that accepts false religions as being Christian not to mention he teaches once saved always saved which is heresy

Watch this video and see Copeland carrying on like the catholics pope is an actual Christian, go to the 39:00 mark and listen to his prayer for the heretic pope.

Look, the souls that have come to be saved because of Copelands Ministry will not be deminished because of your accusations. Peter betrayed Jesus 3 times, Thomas doubted having little faith. Instead of praying for them as Jesus did, you simply send them to hell while they are still living under the age of Grace and where the prayers of righteous men continue to prevail much. You, on the other hand, have chosen unforgiving hatred towards men who were anointed, something even David before becoming King did not do.

Pray for them and prevail!

If you don't think Tongues is wrong, then use one of your own life examples to exemplify it to others rather than use a the example of a man you don't even know to discourage it.
 

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We see these people doing what is either demon possession or false meaningless sounds and made up gibberish, or worse.





This is not from God. They make up words, say they are "slain in the Spirit" and fall or cackle with what they call "holy laughter" or go around making animal sounds or roaring like if they are lions.

Are these things really from the Holy Spirit, or from another origin. Is this identical with what the Apostle Paul himself experienced and spoke gratefully about? Lets look in 1 Corinthians 14, where he says in verse five that he would like for believers to speak in tongues.
1 Corinthians 14:5
I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

Notice he says "that the church may receive edifying."

Then look at verses 26-27:
1 Corinthians 14:26-27
26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

Notice again it says "Let all things be done unto edifying."

But we also have verse 39 which says to not forbid speaking in tongues, but the next verse adds something important.
1 Corinthians 14:39-40
39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

It cannot be said these sounds and words and actions follow what is given, "Let all things be done decently and in order."

Then look at what happened Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came upon them..
Acts 2:1-10
1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

Notice that at that time in Jerusalem there were God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. And these people came together in bewilderment, because they "heard them speak in his own language." As the rest of the chapter unfolds it has Peter preaching about the resurrected Jesus Christ with 3000 people being converted and baptized, this is the true power of the Holy Spirit and you see what the true "speaking in tongues" was for, which is not what we are seeing today..
I think a huge part of misunderstanding tongues is that, right out of the gate, very few call it what the Bible calls it. Most call it a "gift" whereas the Bible calls it a "manifestation." God is perfectly capable of using the word "gift" but he chose to call tongues a "manifestation" instead. He must have had a reason for doing that.

1 Cor 12:7-10,

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.​
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;​
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;​
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:​
I can't tell you how many people I've pointed this out to and yet they persist in calling it a gift. Isn't that changing the Word of God?

The gift is holy spirit, which is the essence of the new birth. Every Christian has the gift of holy spirit. But spirit does not register in the material world. The nine "manifestations" listed in Corinthians are how the spirit can be registered in the material world. Until Jesus comes back, all nine manifestations are the essential tools for all believers to operate so as to bring about God's will for this world in this present age of grace.

Don't like tongues? Well, look closely; "faith" is listed right there with tongues. Should we get rid of faith as well?
 
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I think a huge part of misunderstanding tongues is that, right out of the gate, very few call it what the Bible calls it. Most call it a "gift" whereas the Bible calls it a "manifestation." God is perfectly capable of using the word "gift" but he chose to call tongues a "manifestation" instead. He must have had a reason for doing that.
What I will say is this , I have the gift of tongues and when I speak in tongues it is a manifestation of the gift of Tongues . The gift is what God has blessed you with and then the manifestation is the gift in action . That is the way understand it but I understand what you are saying .
 

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What I will say is this , I have the gift of tongues and when I speak in tongues it is a manifestation of the gift of Tongues . The gift is what God has blessed you with and then the manifestation is the gift in action . That is the way understand it but I understand what you are saying .
The main thing is that you do glorify God by speaking in tongues.

The thing about calling it a "gift" is that it is easy to think that only certain Christians have the "gift." But if it is understood that the gift is actually holy spirit, and that all Christians have the gift of holy spirit, then all Christians would understand that they can manifest that spirit by speaking in tongues as well as operate the other 8 manifestations, thereby glorifying God in a big way.

If all Christians understood the power they have, I think this present world would be a better place. Of course it'll never be as good as the world to come, but we have to do something till then. Might as well demonstrate God's awesome power to the world.

Having said that, I'm sure God loves those who don't speak in tongues every bit as much as He loves those who do. It'll all get sorted out when Jesus gets back here...hopefully soon!
 
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The thing about calling it a "gift" is that it is easy to think that only certain Christians have the "gift." But if it is understood that the gift is actually holy spirit, and that all Christians have the gift of holy spirit, then all Christians would understand that they can manifest that spirit by speaking in tongues as well as operate the other 8 manifestations, thereby glorifying God in a big way.
Yes , all Christians have the Holy Spirit .
The Gift of the Holy Spirit will have to manifest in your life otherwise how would you know you have that particular gift .

1 Corinthians 12:11 Context​

8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 12For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14For the body is not one member, but many.
 
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Look, the souls that have come to be saved because of Copelands Ministry will not be deminished because of your accusations. Peter betrayed Jesus 3 times, Thomas doubted having little faith. Instead of praying for them as Jesus did, you simply send them to hell while they are still living under the age of Grace and where the prayers of righteous men continue to prevail much. You, on the other hand, have chosen unforgiving hatred towards men who were anointed, something even David before becoming King did not do.

Pray for them and prevail!

If you don't think Tongues is wrong, then use one of your own life examples to exemplify it to others rather than use a the example of a man you don't even know to discourage it.
Peter, Thomas, and David repented and came back to a right relationship with the Lord.
Copeland is STILL out there teaching false doctrine

It's too bad you don't know the difference.

Those teaching false doctrine are anointed of the devil, not the Lord so it is you claiming that which is evil is good.

How do you know it's not AI?
Just listen to a few of Copeland's messages and it's definitely not AI

If it was and someone was lying about him, he'd do a video claiming otherwise.

This happened 11 or 12 years ago and is a well documented event.
Yep and it's sad too because back in the day Copeland used to talk about the false teachings of the catholic church and now he's joined up with them and allowed their deception to take over his mind.