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amigo de christo

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Without faith it is impossible to please God.
They that come to HIM must believe that HE Exists and is a rewarder of those that diligently seek HIM
Stand firm with foreheads of FLINT . I have only two words
for this ecumeincal all inclusive interfaith generation . NO DEAL .
I dont compromise with satan , i expose the works and co workers of darkness no matter the cost .
OF which are SO MANY now david . so many i dont even have the time to dare try and count them .
AND THAT IS JUST in christendom . seeing all other relgoins are false and of satan .
TWO WORDS . NO DEAL . there will be NO compromise nor sitting a table of a harlot FOR ME .
 

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Is this what you call tongues ? :)

Or are you willing to learn ?
Mp3
or youtube
no its what i call a wolf in wool of which there are many now all over them churches .
WE gonna have to deal with that . cause that number IS GROWING .
SOON all NOT IN THE LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE will be seated under the all inclusive ecumeincal harlot of anti christ interfaith
And SOON the AI digital system will ENFORCE the worship of this all inclusive god who is and who has always been satan .
Now on that day and in that hour
ANYONE seated under that ecumeincal nightmare of anti christ peace
WILL simply see men like me as dangerous po tential terroists even BELIEVING they do the will of GOD
when we are rounded up . SO there it is for all to see .
THE CHOICE IS REAL CLEAR TO ME . JESUS CHRIST and there will be NO COMPROMISE . even if it cost me all and my life .
I Expose harlots i dont make deals WITH THEM .
I Expose that which is of anti christ , I dont make deals .
THERE WIll be NO COMPROMISE . And i highly suggest many go and do likewise .
Cause while its true men like me are g onna have it quite rough under the reign of this false love god , this all inclusive god ,
his beast , his harlot of eucmiencalism . HOW MUCH WORSE for those who sat under her ON JESUS DAY .
 
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no its what i call a wolf in wool of which there are many now all over them churches .
WE gonna have to deal with that . cause that number IS GROWING .
SOON all NOT IN THE LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE will be seated under the all inclusive ecumeincal harlot of anti christ interfaith
And SOON the AI digital system will ENFORCE the worship of this all inclusive god who is and who has always been satan .
Now on that day and in that hour
ANYONE seated under that ecumeincal nightmare of anti christ peace
WILL simply see men like me as dangerous po tential terroists even BELIEVING they do the will of GOD
when we are rounded up . SO there it is for all to see .
THE CHOICE IS REAL CLEAR TO ME . JESUS CHRIST and there will be NO COMPROMISE . even if it cost me all and my life .
I Expose harlots i dont make deals WITH THEM .
I Expose that which is of anti christ , I dont make deals .
THERE WIll be NO COMPROMISE . And i highly suggest many go and do likewise .
Cause while its true men like me are g onna have it quite rough under the reign of this false love god , this all inclusive god ,
his beast , his harlot of eucmiencalism . HOW MUCH WORSE for those who sat under her ON JESUS DAY .
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Stand firm with foreheads of FLINT . I have only two words
for this ecumeincal all inclusive interfaith generation . NO DEAL .
I dont compromise with satan , i expose the works and co workers of darkness no matter the cost .
OF which are SO MANY now david . so many i dont even have the time to dare try and count them .
AND THAT IS JUST in christendom . seeing all other relgoins are false and of satan .
TWO WORDS . NO DEAL . there will be NO compromise nor sitting a table of a harlot FOR ME .
@amigo de christo
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Sid roth is a charlaton who has used the name of JESUS to enteratain and become wealthy .
HE is mixed us with all kinds of diverse and strange spirits .
HEED NOT ONE WORD outta his sold out mouth . HE better repent is all i can say
before he wails on JESUS day . AS will many and all who have any part in this ecumeincal whore of all harlots
LED anti christ intefaith peace plan . I suggest WE DO US SOME BIBLE UP TIME and real fast too . these
leaders do naught but fleece this people . FROM the halls of the nar realm to the city of the vatican
THEY FLEECING EVERY LAST one of you all .
My advice stands . WE better KNOW darn well its been JESUS and not some other jesus we been a loving and a following .
SO LET ALL who name the name OF JESUS actually OPEN THE Bible and learn
well what these leaders wont teach , AS IN THE TRUTH .
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When the betrayal cometh it will be swift and sudden my friend .
AI will lead this world and enforce the laws of the all inclusive god upon this world .
In that day and in that hour
Anything said , typed , wrote , spoken on phone , seen on cameras
IF IT BE NOT INCLUSIVE it will be routed to data base and to the nearest Police station .
And he causes all both rich and poor , free and bond to recieve a mark in his forehead or hand
And no man may buy or sell save HE who has the mark .
And he had POWER to give LIFE unto the IMAGE of the beast , so as the image
COULD SPEAK and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast
To be killed . AI can DO TH IS . IT WILL ROUTE ANY NAME it deems as non inclusive to a data base
and from thence to any police station and round ups will be done and saints KILLED .
THEY GOT this powerhouse ready and are ready to ENFORCE IT upon the global we are one world .
The beast has power OVER THE NATIONS and it will rage massive war against the saints .
The hour of the great tribulation draws nigh at hand . FEAR NOT A ONE OF THEM .
WE GOT JESUS , just be faith ful unto death . This life was but a vapor anyway , but ETERNAL LIFE IS FOREVER and ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST .
TO THE LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY , TO HIS CHRIST be all the GLORY no matter the cost to us .
GO OUT FAITHFUL my friend . JESUS IS WITH THE SHEEP and shall be with us through it all .
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This would include all religions and governments that persecuted the Body of Christ throughout history.

Coming together as "one language", again, for the final persecution of the Saints.

The 'aints' will always attack the Saints
Do not wear down or out . I bodly refuse to apolgoize to anyone .
ALL i ever did was POINT TO JESUS and never accepted sins or unbelief .
Do not let the vicitm card wear you down my friend . ALL they have is accusations , but SCRIPTURE does not BACK THEM UP .
STAY DUG so deep into that bible that if daily reading meant you dug a foot into the earth
In time you would come up IN china . STAY IN that Bible and in that bible YOU STAY .
NO LIE is of the truth and every single word OF GOD IS TRUTH . stay IN that BIBLE .
I dont give a rip what they call me , bibolarty or etc . I SURE SEEM TO NOTICE that scripture DOES not agree
with their teachings or words , or lovey do , or unity , or finding common ground or interfaith of anti christ peace .
STAY IN that bible and in that bible YOU ST AY . the devil has always had a problem
with , HAS GOD REALLY SAID and he gonna twist it too .
 
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NT tongues were PUBLICLY understandable by others unknown to tongue talker
Today, NO-ONE is able to translate the UNKNOWN 'babble' of a tongue talker.

A 50 min level headed kind compassionate explanation of 'tongues'
https://messages.shorewoodbiblechurch.org/WEBMedia/H/2021-05-23T10-33-36_1682522423.MP3

You have not accepted all the new testament has to say on this topic.

Here's one concerning the private prayer life of the believer you have not seen
(your comment contradicts this verse)

1 Corinthians 14:2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh NOT unto men, but unto God: for NO MAN UNDERSTANDS HIM howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
 

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You have not accepted all the new testament has to say on this topic.

Here's one concerning the private prayer life of the believer you have not seen
(your comment contradicts this verse)

1 Corinthians 14:2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh NOT unto men, but unto God: for NO MAN UNDERSTANDS HIM howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
1 Cor 14:2 is not a "private prayer language".

Your eisegesis contradicts the very verse you offer.
All ya'll charismatic ignore the clear teaching of Paul; especially in both letters to the Corinthians.
Paul CLEARLY states that tongues are a SIGN to unbelieving Jews.
Scripture interprets Scripture. Precepts upon precepts. Line upon line. Here a little. There a little.
But Charismatics have created an entire heretical, theological, philosophy on an Apostolic sign gift meant to verify the Gospel to 1st century unbeliving Jews. It was NOT given to any Gentiles.
Paul's letters to the Corinthians was to correct the misuse of emotional ecstatic babbling by cultists of the Dionysus idolatry which had crept into that particular church.
That's the Biblical and historical basis of this heresy.
 

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If someone professes to have a prayer language, and they use that language to pray in the Spirit for the good of those around them, then why would anyone take it upon themselves to belittle them or discourage them for such a practice?

1Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. 2For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. 3But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. 4He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

6Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? 7And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped? 8For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? 9So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. 10There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. 11Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me. 12Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

13Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 16Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? 17For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified. 18I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 19Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

20Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. 21In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. 22Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe. 23If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? 24But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: 25And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

26How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

The word "unknown" has been inserted into the text. With that in view, as is the case with any scripture, it can be interpreted in any number of ways. Paul spoke in tongues. Paul encouraged all believers to seek after spiritual gifts. Paul did not forbid speaking in tongues, but insisted that everything be done to the edification of the Body.

So again I ask, is this really a hill worth dying on? Or more importantly, crucifying one another upon?

There is no greater tyranny, than that of ones own opinion.
 

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There is no greater evil than to misuse Scripture for the edification of oneself and to teach others that there is no harm in satisfying the flesh.

Many a professing Christian will stand at the JSOC and proclaim they indulged the flesh "in the name of Jesus".

I wonder how that will go for them?

I say all this with genuine concern for my brethren who are mixed up in the charismatic errors.

The charismatic tongues movement is a grave error.

Oh and BTW:
That ENTIRE passage in 1 Corinthians 14 was written to CORRECT the error of ecstatic utterances which modern Charismatics practice today.
 

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There is no greater evil than to misuse Scripture for the edification of oneself and to teach others that there is no harm in satisfying the flesh.

Many a professing Christian will stand at the JSOC and proclaim they indulged the flesh "in the name of Jesus".

I wonder how that will go for them?

I say all this with genuine concern for my brethren who are mixed up in the charismatic errors.

The charismatic tongues movement is a grave error.

Oh and BTW:
That ENTIRE passage in 1 Corinthians 14 was written to CORRECT the error of ecstatic utterances which modern Charismatics practice today.
Yes Jim, Paul was clarifying and correcting.

While also saying that he spoke in tongues more than anyone.

You have good reason to question the motives as well as the methods of the charismatic movement and Pentecostalism in general. I'm not arguing that.

But anyone who has read your comments here and elsewhere, would have good reason to question your motives and methods a well.

Your favorite response to those whom you disagree with appears to be a mixture of anger and ridicule. May I refer you to the words of Christ, "Love one another", and Paul, "love is patient, kind, not rude, not easily angered, not proud etc etc.

And Paul again;
1Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5For every man shall bear his own burden.

You can meditate on these words. Or you can lash out at myself and others as would seem to be your habit. I hope you choose the former.

Doctrines are a wonderful thing. Until they become everything. Love your brother, love your neighbor. The OP was sharing their personal experience with Christ and His Holy Spirit. It's not your experience, so let it go. Trust the Spirit of God within him to correct him, if indeed he needs correcting.

Paul was not forbidding tongues, but as you rightfully said, correcting their misapplication. I wish more charismatics today would read his words and obey his teaching. And I wish more fundamentalists would seek spiritual gifts, as Paul also instructed us.

Be blessed Jim.
And be at peace.
 

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Yes Jim, Paul was clarifying and correcting.

While also saying that he spoke in tongues more than anyone.

You have good reason to question the motives as well as the methods of the charismatic movement and Pentecostalism in general. I'm not arguing that.

But anyone who has read your comments here and elsewhere, would have good reason to question your motives and methods a well.

Your favorite response to those whom you disagree with appears to be a mixture of anger and ridicule. May I refer you to the words of Christ, "Love one another", and Paul, "love is patient, kind, not rude, not easily angered, not proud etc etc.

And Paul again;
1Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5For every man shall bear his own burden.

You can meditate on these words. Or you can lash out at myself and others as would seem to be your habit. I hope you choose the former.

Doctrines are a wonderful thing. Until they become everything. Love your brother, love your neighbor. The OP was sharing their personal experience with Christ and His Holy Spirit. It's not your experience, so let it go. Trust the Spirit of God within him to correct him, if indeed he needs correcting.

Paul was not forbidding tongues, but as you rightfully said, correcting their misapplication. I wish more charismatics today would read his words and obey his teaching. And I wish more fundamentalists would seek spiritual gifts, as Paul also instructed us.

Be blessed Jim.
And be at peace.
To the contrary, Nathaniel:
The first 10 years of my 46 years of walking with Christ were in the Charismatic camp. I know ALL of their excuses and subterfuge. Everytime someone exposes the Truth of the so called 'tongues' phenomenon Charismatics lash out and say "You are not being loving like Christ".
Every. Single. Time.
Or they assume that the Apologist for Truth has never experienced tongues, prayer languages, word of wisdom, word of knowledge, prophecy and a host of other Gnostic based nonsense.
Simply saying "Trust the Spirit of God to correct him" is a weak cop out my friend.
Paul made it plain:
All scripture is given by inspiration and is profitable for Doctrine, for Reproof, for Correction, for Instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
And...
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; Reprove, Rebuke, Exhort with all Long Suffering and Doctrine.
And...
Speak those things which become sound Doctrine
And finally...
The time will come when they will not endure sound Doctrine.
Meditate on these things...
 

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To the contrary, Nathaniel:
The first 10 years of my 46 years of walking with Christ were in the Charismatic camp. I know ALL of their excuses and subterfuge. Everytime someone exposes the Truth of the so called 'tongues' phenomenon Charismatics lash out and say "You are not being loving like Christ".
Every. Single. Time.
Or they assume that the Apologist for Truth has never experienced tongues, prayer languages, word of wisdom, word of knowledge, prophecy and a host of other Gnostic based nonsense.
Simply saying "Trust the Spirit of God to correct him" is a weak cop out my friend.
Paul made it plain:
All scripture is given by inspiration and is profitable for Doctrine, for Reproof, for Correction, for Instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
And...
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; Reprove, Rebuke, Exhort with all Long Suffering and Doctrine.
And...
Speak those things which become sound Doctrine
And finally...
The time will come when they will not endure sound Doctrine.
Meditate on these things...
Did Paul claim to speak in tongues more than anyone? Did he not also thank God for his ability to do so?