Spirit filled believer?

[quietthinker]

The things of the spirit are strange because it defies the flesh, I have always believed that through Christ anything is possible and many say this as well but do we truly believe it?
Do you see people performing miracles? are our prayers requests or are the assurance?
I haven't seen many miracles and I have spoken with many Christians about this but few can actually say they saw the hand of God or a miracle or divine intervention

Then there are the cessationalists who outright deny that the spiritual gifts are for today and for the most part they seem to be right because you don't see many Christians who truly walk in the spirit whose presence can be felt when entering a room or who lays on hands and heals someone.

Even prayer for that matter seems to be a I hope he answers kind of thing it is not like when Jesus prayed or when he performed miracles he was assured he was confident he made his request but even just creating all that fish and bread as he did he seemed assured he would recieve it.

There is however another side to this, there are some believers one whom I even got to be in the presence of who are full of the spirit like I mean you can feel them just by being near them there is life in them and there are some believers out there who can actually lay on hands and heal or pray and be assured they will recieve

So what makes the difference I wonder? what makes one believer spiritually rich while the rest are just kind of well not?

The difference amongst believers is what one discerns.
God's Spirit is always working. She is present continuous.

 

[Cross8527]

The difference amongst believers is what one discerns.
God's Spirit is always working. She is present continuous.

Wait she? do you believe the spirit is a she not a him?

 

[quietthinker]

Wait she? do you believe the spirit is a she not a him?

Does God have independent gender?

 

[Cross8527]

Does God have independent gender?

God is always referenced in scripture as he or him

 

[Behold]

Does God have independent gender?

Perhaps you forgot to notice that when God made MAN....>>He created Him as ADAM., and this is defined by the BIBLE in Genesis 1 as "IN OUR Image".

""""OUR Image "" = God the Father, Jesus pre-incarnate as the WORD, and the Holy Spirit.........not Mother God .

EVE a female, who eventually became a beautiful woman, was created from Adam's RIB.

 

[quietthinker]

God is always referenced in scripture as he or him

The West has gendersied God as male.
The Spirit in Hebrew is referenced as female

An interesting consideration.....Genesis 1:26-27 'Let US make man in OUR image.......so God created man in his OWN IIMAGE; in the image of God he created them; MALE and FEMALE he created them.

 

[Cross8527]

The West has gendersied God as male.
The Spirit in Hebrew is referenced as female

An interesting consideration.....Genesis 1:26-27 'Let US make man in OUR image.......so God created man in his OWN IIMAGE; in the image of God he created them; MALE and FEMALE he created them.

where in scripture is the spirit referenced as female?

 

[quietthinker]

where in scripture is the spirit referenced as female?

in all the Hebrew.

 

[Cross8527]

in all the Hebrew.

That is not entirely true


Yes, the word for "Spirit" (Ruach) in Hebrew is feminine, and therefore, in the original Hebrew texts, the Holy Spirit is referred to with feminine grammatical forms. However, this grammatical femininity in Hebrew does not imply that the Holy Spirit is a female person but is a feature of the language itself, similar to how the word for "wind" or "breath," which is also Ruach, is feminine without being a female entity.

Grammatical Gender in Hebrew

• Ruach (רוח): The Hebrew word for "Spirit" (or "wind" or "breath") is Ruach.
  
  
• Feminine Noun: Ruach is a feminine noun, and when used in the Hebrew Bible to refer to the Holy Spirit, it takes feminine pronouns and grammatical forms.

What This Means

• Linguistic Feature:
  In Hebrew and Aramaic, nouns have grammatical genders (masculine or feminine) that are often unrelated to their natural gender.
  
  
• Not a Literal Gender:
  The feminine grammatical gender of Ruach does not mean the Holy Spirit is a woman or has a female essence, similar to how the Greek word for "house" is masculine but a house is not male.
  
  
• Shift in the New Testament:
  In contrast to the Old Testament's Hebrew texts, the New Testament was written in Greek, where the word for Spirit, pneuma (πνεῦμα), is neuter, leading to the Spirit being referred to as "it" in some translations.

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[Rockerduck]

When the Holy Spirit speaks to me, it is a male voice. When Jesus speaks it is a male voice. In the bible when God spoke at Jesus's baptism, it was a male voice.

 

[Cross8527]

When the Holy Spirit speaks to me, it is a male voice. When Jesus speaks it is a male voice. In the bible when God spoke at Jesus's baptism, it was a male voice.

I have actually met the holy spirit and can attest he is male

 

[quietthinker]

That is not entirely true


Yes, the word for "Spirit" (Ruach) in Hebrew is feminine, and therefore, in the original Hebrew texts, the Holy Spirit is referred to with feminine grammatical forms. However, this grammatical femininity in Hebrew does not imply that the Holy Spirit is a female person but is a feature of the language itself, similar to how the word for "wind" or "breath," which is also Ruach, is feminine without being a female entity.

Grammatical Gender in Hebrew

• Ruach (רוח): The Hebrew word for "Spirit" (or "wind" or "breath") is Ruach.
  
  
• Feminine Noun: Ruach is a feminine noun, and when used in the Hebrew Bible to refer to the Holy Spirit, it takes feminine pronouns and grammatical forms.

What This Means

• Linguistic Feature:
  In Hebrew and Aramaic, nouns have grammatical genders (masculine or feminine) that are often unrelated to their natural gender.
  
  
• Not a Literal Gender:
  The feminine grammatical gender of Ruach does not mean the Holy Spirit is a woman or has a female essence, similar to how the Greek word for "house" is masculine but a house is not male.
  
  
• Shift in the New Testament:
  In contrast to the Old Testament's Hebrew texts, the New Testament was written in Greek, where the word for Spirit, pneuma (πνεῦμα), is neuter, leading to the Spirit being referred to as "it" in some translations.

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What I'm saying is that ascribing genders to God as we understand them is limited and flawed.
God is Spirit and does not have a penis or a vagina.....yet both characteristics/ qualities/ motivations are embodied in God.

 

[Azim]

What I'm saying is that ascribing genders to God as we understand them is limited and flawed.
God is Spirit and does not have a penis or a vagina.....yet both characteristics/ qualities/ motivations are embodied in God.

We can't attribute the "physical" to that what is which is "spiritual". @quietthinker , as a brother in Christ, is this a thinking?

 

[Aunty Jane]

What I'm saying is that ascribing genders to God as we understand them is limited and flawed.
God is Spirit and does not have a penis or a vagina.....yet both characteristics/ qualities/ motivations are embodied in God.

And yet we cannot deny the gender roles that God instituted in creation. Males and females have different roles, both equally important, but each knows their place in his arrangement and seldom step out of them.

Like the animal kingdom, God made humans male and female for the sole purpose of reproduction, but at the same time he designed them to compliment one another in the roles that he gave them.....a perfect team with no need for competition.

Difficulties in marriage are usually the result of someone stepping out of their role to take on the role of the other partner. Males were appointed as the head of the family, not because he is superior to his wife, but because, like a vehicle, it only has one set of controls, and handled with care that vehicle can safely navigate its way anywhere...even in bad weather.
A good co-pilot is a bonus but not entirely necessary. (Unless you are a rally driver)

Don’t devalue the gender roles, as they are the backbone of creation. God is depicted as male for obvious reasons.

 

[quietthinker]

We can't attribute the "physical" to that what is which is "spiritual". @quietthinker , as a brother in Christ, is this a thinking?

We use gender terms because it's the only way we can separate the genders. We ascribe gender to God because of our limitation.
It appears we are able to reproduce (create new life) I understand angels don't have this ability, at least I've never heard of baby angels or angels with breasts. As to whether other creations on other planets can reproduce is an unknown to me.

'Created in God's Image' carries with it privileges other creation might not have.

 

[quietthinker]

Like the animal kingdom, God made humans male and female for the sole purpose of reproduction,

'Sole purpose of reproduction'...hmmm. Sounds limiting to me.

God is depicted as male for obvious reasons.

Obvious?
I know women can break stones and men can change nappies. I know women can fight and men kill each other.
Maybe you mean women like pink and men like any colour except pink?
Tell me what is 'obvious' to you AJ.

 

[Hiddenthings]

@quietthinker interested to know why the Scripture presents God as male i.e. Father and why all angels are only even presented as males / men.

Thoughts?

 

[quietthinker]

@quietthinker interested to know why the Scripture presents God as male i.e. Father and why all angels are only even presented as males / men.

Thoughts?

hmmmm. Could it be because the scriptures were written by males in a society that saw women as 'second class' citizens?

Do you think the characteristics of God revealed to Moses on the mountain when Moses asked to see God are predominantly the domain of males?

Exodus 34: 6-7..
'The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin....'

Regarding the Angels.....I don't know why they only appear as males.

 

[ProDeo]

Matthew 22:14 - For many are called and few are chosen. I read this verse as literal, many are called, and they are, and Jesus chooses a few. That is why I and a "few" more here, declare our chosen status. Yet, many are called. There are many ways to be called, but make no mistake, you'll know when you are called.

I think the the context is John 1:11, the unbelieving Jews, many were called, few believed.

 

[ProDeo]

So if I give hard evidence including hospital records - what then... ???

Hard evidence of what?

Miracles do still happen Aunty, but like Carl I am not going to boast about it.