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who are the successors of Moses and what authority do they have?
 

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who are the successors of Moses and what authority do they have?

Moses was their leader, he had authority to lead them. And lead them he did, to die in the desert. And nether did he enter the promised land. For he had struck the rock, as his successors would fulfill by way of persecuting and executing Jesus. So his blood is on them and their children. And as Romans 11 says now they must wait for the fullness of the gentiles to come in.
 
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Moses was the mediator of the old covenant but what about these men who sit in his chair or seat in his place?
But Jesus says there authority and power are to be obeyed, at least until Hectook it from them and gave it to church
 

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who are the successors of Moses and what authority do they have?
There was only one successor to Moses, and that was Joshua. As far as being a Levite is concerned, the Israelite priesthood, including all who served at the temple, is derived from the lineage of Levi. More precisely, the High Priests must be of the genealogy of Moses' brother, Aaron.
But this priesthood has been abolished with the advent of Jesus, our Judahite High Priest. The succession has ended, and there is no other Lord but Jesus.
 
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Matt 23 who are the successors of Moses and what authority do they have?
There are no successors of Moses. Christ has superseded Moses. Kindly read and study Paul's epistle to the Hebrews.
 

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I think that the answer that you are looking for, @theefaith, is that the scribes and Pharisees sat in Moses' seat; and therefore, Jesus said, do as they say but not as they do.
 

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There was only one successor to Moses, and that was Joshua. As far as being a Levite is concerned, the Israelite priesthood, including all who served at the temple, is derived from the lineage of Levi. More precisely, the High Priests must be of the genealogy of Moses' brother, Aaron.
But this priesthood has been abolished with the advent of Jesus, our Judahite High Priest. The succession has ended, and there is no other Lord but Jesus.

how can Jesus be high priest without being over low priests?

matt 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Successors of Moses authority?
 

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There are no successors of Moses. Christ has superseded Moses. Kindly read and study Paul's epistle to the Hebrews.
I know I am referring to the successors of Moses at the time of Christ, Matt 23
 

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I think that the answer that you are looking for, @theefaith, is that the scribes and Pharisees sat in Moses' seat; and therefore, Jesus said, do as they say but not as they do.
Did Jesus take away their authority (keys) and power (bind) and give it to Peter and the apostles?
 

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how can Jesus be high priest without being over low priests?

matt 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Successors of Moses authority?
Jesus meant that they, figuratively, sit in Moses' seat, as overseers of the Levitical Law (Mosaic Law). Which, in essence, all that judge by the Law, are imposing the authority that Moses had who legislated the Law by the divine command of God.

theefaith, you really need to get a book on Biblical Hermeneutics 101. You take everything out of context, and don't know when to differentiate between metaphors, allusions, idioms, figures of speech, anthropomorphism, etc...
..and just for that reason, I'd highly suggest changing your handle also.
 

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Even one word is still the word of God!

How does context etc make you a Protestant?

these successors have kingdom authority
(Keys) shut heaven and power (bind) then it was taken fromThe successors of Moses sit in the chair of Moses having the authority of the keys and the power to bind and loose Matt 23 and Jesus commanded them to be obeyed! Then the kingdom was taken from them matt 21:43 and given to Peter, Matt 16:18 the apostles, Matt 18:18 and their successors with the authority of the keys and the power to bind and lose!
 

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Hebrews 9
But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that are now already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made with human hands, that is to say, is not a part of this creation. 12 He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption. 13 The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean. 14 How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

16 In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, 17 because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living. 18 This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood. 19 When Moses had proclaimed every command of the law to all the people, he took the blood of calves, together with water, scarlet wool and branches of hyssop, and sprinkled the scroll and all the people. 20 He said, “This is the blood of the covenant, which God has commanded you to keep.” 21 In the same way, he sprinkled with the blood both the tabernacle and everything used in its ceremonies. 22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Hebrews 10
Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.