What meaningful conclusion should you expect other than that I am trusting in God? Am I leaning on Him? Am I humbling myself before Him? Am I listening to His voice and obeying Him? Would you really rather that I obey and follow you or any other man hoping and expecting me to jump on his bandwagon to accomplish his purpose? What about my purpose, the one for which God called me?Upon reading your post, I became disappointed. It is a condemnation post with many words of regret, and without saying where you really stand on the topic. Was it worth writing all this without coming to any real meaningful conclusion?
Do you want me to say that you are right and that I am wrong just to ease or eliminate your disappointment?
What direction is God leading me? Does it, or should it, or must it coincide precisely with yours?
I certainly see the evil within America and the world. However, I know that my pathway which God has put before me is not yours. I will not set aside the work that God has for me to do in favor of the 'save the nation' crusade you apparently believe is yours. Perhaps for you it is. Don't try to put that on me. I have always loved this country. It was very hard to understand why people would run to Canada to avoid military service when I was going to Viet Nam with so many others. I was there early for the war, but still I lost two friends there whose faces are etched forever in my brain. I have loved and love this country, but first things must be first.I'm also disappointed because, not that you evidently do not share my view on this thread and topic. And not because I generally disagreed with it all, as an intellectual argument. No, because I sensed you do not see real major evil and spiritual warfare facing America today, for the first time since its creation. Furthermore, It seems though you believe taking an interest in America, its politics, social life and its institutions is not worth a believer's time nor should they get caught up into it as they most probably, by deduction of your text, are not on the Lord's side. If this is true, then this is a damming charge, bordering on self-righteousness.
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matt 6:33
In its best day, the USA was Not the kingdom Nor the righteousness of God. Certainly it has been involved as so
many Americans have been and are involved in the things of God, but don't presume that America is the kingdom of God or equal to it!
The children of Israel died in the wilderness with two exceptions. The ten northern tribes of Israel were carried away as their nation fell. The southern nation of Judah fell and Jerusalem also fell. Are the people of America today more 'the people of God' than those children of Jacob God led out of Egypt? Did the Israelites who died during 40 years in the desert due to rebellion against God rebel more strongly against Him than perhaps the majority of Americans today rebel against God? Those people had only the anointed Moses to trust. We, each one of us, have, or could have, the anointing of God in ourselves in the Holy Spirit to trust. The 600,000 died because they were not worthy and they rebelled repeatedly. Are we, we Americans more worthy? Have we really done a better job since God has really given us the possibility of more with the Holy Ghost within us?
Should we gather ourselves together with some of these lesser devils and fight shedding if necessary the blood of those worse [in your opinion] devils on the other side? God did not draw a line between the two groups of devils. Men have done that and are continuing to do it. Are there any that are not devils or are without a devilish spirit on either side of that line? You or me or that other guy? Who is so much in the know as to judge that rightly? Were there any faithful Christian people in Germany during the time Hitler was coming to power? Is the USA better than Germany? Are the American people better than the German people?
Everyone get aboard this train heading toward God [Really?] even though we are to effectively align ourselves with devils to accomplish it and we are to follow men rather than Jesus toward what? Not toward any Light of God that I can see not looking toward the front of that train.
If America has a good future it is through God, but not very much of what I see looks very much like Jesus. My vision is undoubtedly at times dim or blurred or darkened, but should I believe that yours [your vision] is always better and follow you?
Is it not the face of Jesus we are to seek? Is it not Jesus we are to become like? In what man do we see His face?
So have you received a revelation from God that the salvation of men is bound up in the salvation of the nation called the United States of America? The USA is already a godless and immoral nation. Is your plan going to change that by supporting the lesser of two evils? Since every man is a liar, which one should I believe is to do the most good and the least harm?Yes, there are many carnal and fake Christians in America, as in all countries, as in the past, even in the tribes of Israel. None of that has changed and never will for now. And to then say by reading into your words that America will be damned and destroyed like Sodom. And so by implication there is no consequences if evil continues to penetrate and betray America and even if it succeeds into transforming it into a tyrannical communistic, godless and immoral nation. And there are godless men in America who are primarily from one political party today, driving this charge forward, being encourage and aided and abetted by foreign godless enemies of America, and I believe of our Lord.
"God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged" Rom 3:4
I am concerned about the individuals [not only Americans, but whosoever will of those that God calls] especially those for whom I may be used as an instrument of God to help them move closer to God. Only God gives the increase, but He does use people either as His right hand or as His left hand. Are you sure you are working as or in the Right Hand of God and that me or anyone else not on your train must necessarily be must be Left hand workers?
God saves people! If God wanted to use a national government to save people, He certainly could, but I do not see our national government in that plan. His Plan, now. I do not see your plan as being His Plan. Will you convince me by the arguments of men, by your own logic that your plan is God's plan?
If only the few, the Joshuas, Calebs, Noahs and Daniels are to be saved, should we not then work with our might... as God leads us, to help Him to help them? Should I design my own plan or take hold of some other man's plan and strive to implement it? Is God's Way, God's plan, flawed?
Do I look like I am hiding? I am following the Lord everyday doing the best that I can sometimes stumbling and falling down. but with God's help I keep on lifting up my eyes toward Jesus one more time. You don't see my work as perhaps I cannot see yours, but then neither one of us is the Head. Does He reveal everything to every member of his Body about every other member of the Body?The current events in America go far beyond any President or any Political party. It is part of the spiritual battle for the hearts and minds of people in this country, we call America. It will affect all other nations in the process. It affects true believers MORE than the carnal folks and the fake Christians you wrote about. Believers are much more sensitive to this spiritual war waging at the feet of this country today. It is not a time to 'hide' and say I want to be on the Lord's side. And what does that mean in your context, in your post anyway?
How many good German Christians fought for the Jews, blacks, Gypsies and Jehovah's Witnesses in the German homeland when the 'Nazi thugs' went after them? We may read about members of those groups being attacked and killed, but how many not in those groups, like a Shindler, actually risked themselves to prevent or minimize the holocaust? Remember that this supposedly very Christian nation at the time was among those refusing to give sanctuary to people fleeing the merciless persecution of the German Reich!In the near future, and God forbid, this America we both live and pray in, could easily become a truly godless nation under Communism.
And if in this godless environment I happen to cross into your neighborhood, and see you at the mercy of communist thugs, can I fight for you and your family as as former member of the independent political Party we used to know, and a true believer of the congregation of the Lord?
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