The bible contains what percentage of 'ALL SCRIPTURE'? 2 Timothy 3:16

[One 2 question]

What Holy Spirit? You don't even know?

There's one Spirit of Christ who lives in the follower of Christ. Do you know Him personally? I'm beginning to wonder if you actually do.

 

[Jack]

There's one Spirit of Christ who lives in the follower of Christ. Do you know Him personally?

So tell us who it is. Don't have a clue? You already forsook the Holy Spirit of the Bible. You said so.

Those demons you're hearing are leading you to Hell.

 

[One 2 question]

So tell us who it is. Don't have a clue? You already forsook the Holy Spirit of the Bible. You said so.

Those demons you're hearing are leading you to Hell.

It is becoming much clearer that YOU don't know Him. I've just asked Him to reveal Himself to YOU. Then you can have a personal encounter with Him. It's beyond fantastic. He is amazing.

 

[Jack]

It is becoming much clearer that YOU don't know Him. I've just asked Him to reveal Himself to YOU. Then you can have a personal encounter with Him. It's beyond fantastic. He is amazing.

He? Himself? You don't even know who you're referring to.

You said you're heading for Hell FOREVER! ONLY Satan's messengers are heading for Hell! No Christian will believe you.

 

[ScottA]

God told Joshua to kill the people of Jericho. So they did. God told Joshua to kill the people of many cities, towns and villages. In fact God rebuked Joshua and the children of Israel for not killing all the inhabitants of Canaan. We are told they were very much alive before they were murdered, slain by the sword as God commanded.

Yet wrote a command, 'Do not kill'. What's not clear about this?

And can't God do this? Who told Him He can't command 2 opposing things?

Certainly God can command the opposite in different circumstances--but you are missing a very important factor: That among unsaved people, everyone is dead already; but with God in the mix there is no murder. Which is not a license to kill among men, but a parogitive of God and his judgment. Which is indeed hard to decipher among Christians, where there exists a variable of flesh and blood vs Christ in us--between the old man and the new man born of the Spirit of God.

But again, if you limit your understanding to the terms common to men, or simply to the words--which are "confused" by God and must be spiritually discerned--then a superficial, elementary understanding on the level of unsaved men, is all you will get out of what is written.

It is for this reason that men find contradictions in the Bible. Such is not the measure of God, but of men.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What do you mean by your words, 'fill righteousness'?

What about the Spirit of Truth Himself? Hasn't He been revealing Himself to you, Jesus and His Father beyond anything you've come across in the bible?

And when did God tell you it is all God gave us to fill righteousness and get to know Him?

And how can we trust whatever visions, dreams, feelings, inner "revelations"? We can only compare them to what god gav e us in His written Word.

And as far as the Spirit goes, Jesus said He would bring to remembrance all things Jesus taught. There is nothing in Scripture saying He would bring new revelations beyond what is written.

He told us in Scripture. Read Psalm 119, The very words of Jesus, Paul to Timothy!

Can you substantiate YOUR claim. There is NOTHING recorded in the bible that states this. Are YOU trying to start a new cult or could someone be justified in saying that YOU are a heretic or propagating heretical thoughts.

This is hilarious! cults spring up because somebody gets "new revelation" outside of Scripture and deceives people to follow them.

You are accusing me of being a cult because I say every spiritual "revelation" has to be brought in subjection to Scripture! Well then of course the religious crowd of Jesus day said He was a heretic and creating a cult also.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Why do you still fight the biblically true reality of what was sealed did not come at "the end of the first century" are to come well after that at the end? You may as well as say, “Has God indeed said" it would come? And you are so adamant, how is it that you do not realize that you sound like a serpent denying part of what God has said?

Well I do not deny any word of Scripture as it is rightloy divided. But as to these "new revelations" you wish to say are just as much divine as the bible- I must see them and see how they do not contradict what has been passed down since the apostles.

I suppose you support the book of MOrmon and the teachings of teh Watchtower. They claim they came from god. what standard do you use to disagree with these "revelations" from god?

 

[quietthinker]

God told Joshua to kill the people of Jericho. So they did. God told Joshua to kill the people of many cities, towns and villages. In fact God rebuked Joshua and the children of Israel for not killing all the inhabitants of Canaan. We are told they were very much alive before they were murdered, slain by the sword as God commanded.

Yet wrote a command, 'Do not kill'. What's not clear about this?

And can't God do this? Who told Him He can't command 2 opposing things?

God is not contradictory otherwise he would self destruct.
It is Satan who is contradictory and he will self destruct just as those who root for him knowingly or unknowingly.

So HOW is God who lives forever? He is modelled in Jesus and described by those closest to him in the records we have.
1 John tells us that God is love and him him is no darkness at all. Has it not been read?
Paul gives us a description of Love the which can be interchanged with God in 1 Corinthians 13. Has it been forgotten, particularly vs 5?

So what do we do with the record that you mentioned of God ordering genocide (mass killing)?
If you're interested to know, say so and I will present a fresh perspective.

 

[Jack]

Well I do not deny any word of Scripture as it is rightloy divided. But as to these "new revelations" you wish to say are just as much divine as the bible- I must see them and see how they do not contradict what has been passed down since the apostles.

I suppose you support the book of MOrmon and the teachings of teh Watchtower. They claim they came from god. what standard do you use to disagree with these "revelations" from god?

Interesting!

 

[One 2 question]

So what do we do with the record that you mentioned of God ordering genocide (mass killing)?
If you're interested to know, say so and I will present a fresh perspective.

Please share your perspective with us

 

[One 2 question]

God is not contradictory otherwise he would self destruct.

Who told you this? If it's from your own understanding please share it anyway. Some on this forum will want confirmation from the scriptures. Just saying

 

[quietthinker]

Please share your perspective with us

None of the authors of scripture prior to Jesus understood the full character of God. All they recorded which God said was filtered through their cultural paradigm. They got critical things wrong, for instance Isaiah believed both good and evil emanate from God. 1 John tells us this is not the case.

Moses had come a long way from the morality of Pharaoh, yet the best he could imagine was an eye for an eye. That was an improvement on taking a person (even their whole family) out if they offended. We can see this principle at work in the account of Daniel in the lions den. The officials who set Daniel up were eventually busted and had not only themselves thrown to the lions but their families as well; the children, the wives, perhaps even their parents.

God honoured Elijah's prayed for fire to consume his sacrifice and then figured it was acceptable to slaughter hundreds of the opposition. He ended up with PTSD and ran from Jezebel like a frightened rabbit. He assumed God approved of the slaughter.
What happened to his prior boldness? It evaporated like the morning dew once he engaged the killing.

The Grace displayed in Jesus was unimaginable to OT characters just as building a computer for the average Joe today is outside the realm of possible imagination.
Jesus opened a window into God's character the which had never entered the human mind. Forgiving and dying for your enemies was unheard of, even unimaginable.

Even today with the accounts we have of Jesus, people (Christians) find it difficult to believe that God holds no record of wrongs (1 Cor. 13:5) They revert to OT morality to justify war and a whole lot of other processes of outing people. It is as if Jesus' reality had never existed.

Factoring in OT paradigms gives us insight into why the barbarity recorded is justified, even attributed to God.
Just take a look at what Israel is doing today in Gaza. They have rejected Jesus and are using OT paradigms to justify their overt barbarity. In fact the whole of the World's systems rationalise that war and its attending misery is acceptable to be executed on one's enemies.
They have embraced Satan's MO (Modus Operandi) which is to steal, kill and destroy (John 10:10)

When Jesus said things like, 'you have heard it said....but I say unto you.....' (Matthew 5) he was challenging what they had heard from their scriptures and putting forward a new and better measure....the measure of God.

There is more to say....later

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[Jack]

Amazing that professing Christians still think God has to get permission from humans.

1 Samuel 2:6
6 "The LORD kills and makes alive;

And He never asks permission! Won't Judgment Day be interesting when He burns BILLIONS of humans FOREVER and never asks permission. Reminds me of the Genesis Flood.

 

[quietthinker]

Amazing that professing Christians still think God has to get permission from humans.

1 Samuel 2:6
6 "The LORD kills and makes alive;

And He never asks permission! Won't Judgment Day be interesting when He burns BILLIONS of humans FOREVER and never asks permission. Reminds me of the Genesis Flood.

The glee you get repeatedly talking about the destruction of your struggling fellows manifest the spirit of Satan.
It is clear you have no encouragement or good news for any of your readers
Be mindful you don't walk through the gates of hell chanting bible verses!

 

[Jack]

The glee you get repeatedly talking about the destruction of your struggling fellows manifest the spirit of Satan.
It is clear you have no encouragement or good news for any of your readers
Be mindful you don't walk through the gates of hell chanting bible verses!

Oh that's right. You said Jesus, Moses, Isaiah, Matthew, Luke, Hebrews, Peter ... were wrong about the Genesis Flood. But you pick the parts of the Bible you like, to believe! Did you ever read what Jesus said about Bible choppers?

Revelation 22:19
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city,

Do you FEAR God? You will.

 

[quietthinker]

Oh that's right. You said Jesus, Moses, Isaiah, Matthew, Luke, Hebrews, Peter ... were wrong about the Genesis Flood. But you pick the parts of the Bible you like, to believe! Did you ever read what Jesus said about Bible choppers?

Revelation 22:19
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city,

Do you FEAR God? You will.

Your unremitting and sustained trajectory Jack is criticism and condemnation. It reveals the spirit operating in you.

 

[Jack]

Your sustained trajectory Jack is criticism and condemnation. It reveals the spirit operating in you.

I'm pulling Bible choppers out of the Fire! That's what Christians do! Why does that upset you?

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

 

[quietthinker]

I'm pulling Bible choppers out of the Fire! That's what Christians do! Why does that upset you?

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

More accurately, you have an image of yourself doing this when in fact at every turn the evidence revealed in your posts is condemnation.

 

[Jack]

More accurately, you have an image of yourself doing this when in fact at every turn the evidence revealed in your posts is condemnation.

It's the Bible that upsets you, not me.

 

[quietthinker]

It's the Bible that upsets you, not me.

Refusing to take responsibility for your approach and hand balling it onto the bible is nothing short of chronic immaturity.