The bible contains what percentage of 'ALL SCRIPTURE'? 2 Timothy 3:16

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The canon of Scripture is closed, so whatever else God has said, is saying, and will say, isn't Scripture.

Canon of scripture? Where did you get this term? I've heard of the biblical canons, multiple ones which various humans have tried to clearly and unanimously determined but without success.

As I've asked before, what percentage of the ALL SCRIPTURE has found itself in your bible?

You stated...'so whatever else God has said, is saying, and will say, isn't Scripture' so what does this mean for the church, the followers of Christ, His Bride?

 

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Quoting One 2 question: "Life with God outside the Bible is great"!

Life in God's words in the bible is great too! Feel free to quote me on this. I'm not ashamed of God's words, the word of God. In fact I esteem every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

 

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You will confuse yourself when Jesus does not become the litmus for interpreting scripture.
Christians generally have not been taught how to do this so they read and interpret the OT as if Jesus never existed.
Do you know how to interpret scripture through the lens of Jesus?

Quietthinker, have you not read God's word through John, Christ has given the Holy Spirit to you, and he continues to help you. So you do not need people to teach you what is true. The Holy Spirit himself teaches you everything about God's message. He helps you to know what is true. He does not tell you any lies. So you must remember what he has taught you. Continue to live together with Christ. 1 John 2:27

Therefore need for bible colleges, theological seminaries or the like. We have all we need, and He is a Person, the Holy Spirit of Truth within us 24/7. We are like laptops, mobile hardware. Holy Spirit is the software Who has access to not only the WWW but the GWW, God Wide Web.

So do I know how to interpret scripture through the lens of Jesus? Yes, it's simple. By the Holy Spirit of Truth in me. It's His responsibility to teach, not mine. And this is fantastic hey.

 

[One 2 question]

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What does it matter who agrees with who? Do you want to control the show? We all stand on our own when it comes to being on the ball or not.

Yep. Jesus didn't leave God's children as orphans when He left, but sent us Their Spirit. He controls the show now hey. That's so good!

 

[Jack]

You can claim that if you like. How can YOU be sure YOU have rightly divided what God has said or meant?

Do you know the meaning of 'irony'?

 

[Jack]

Life in God's words in the bible is great too! Feel free to quote me on this. I'm not ashamed of God's words, the word of God. In fact I esteem every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

Those who live "outside the Bible" are not Christians! You said you live outside the Bible. Remember?

 

[ScottA]

Yu corrected me according to your doctrine but not by the Word. My questions still stand. do you agree or disagree with those positions and by what authority do you take your stand.

And I am still unclear as to what revelation you are speaking of. You write in such an obtuse and murky way, it is hard to understand what exactly you are trying to say.

And do not dodge my questions. answer them as a matter of Christian charity.

Your previous post (#143) was full of errors, as is this one. But we have covered this ground before many times, and the end comes regardless.

But since you like questions...it would be premature (if even necessary) if you did not first answer what revelation I have been speaking of all this time. You should be very clear on it because it is the very thing you accuse me of as being new. So...what revelation was sealed and only to be revealed just before the end?

Then when you are clear on it, perhaps we can proceed.

 

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Those who live "outside the Bible" are not Christians! You said you live outside the Bible. Remember?

When did God tell YOU 'Those who live "outside the Bible" are not Christians?' These words are not in the bibles. So either God told you directly or it's man conceived thought.

 

[One 2 question]

Do you know the meaning of 'irony'?

Many will say they use the bible to interpret the bible. But when soooo many Christians read the exact same text and come up with opposing conclusions by using other bible verses to try and justify their interpretation, it's somewhat insane.

But hey. You will stay in your lane and I in mine. There seems to be enough scope to cater for thousands of lanes of beliefs and practices. God is ok with that, maybe like when God caused division by confusing human languages.

 

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100% in mine.

The whole Bible is breathed out by God.

It's authors of both Old and New Testaments were inspired by God

Say you are right, then how much more of God's words are breathed out of His mouth that didn't make it into the bible?

 

[Stumpmaster]

You can claim that if you like. How can YOU be sure YOU have rightly divided what God has said or meant?

No buzzer sound.

 

[Stumpmaster]

Canon of scripture? Where did you get this term? I've heard of the biblical canons, multiple ones which various humans have tried to clearly and unanimously determined but without success.

As I've asked before, what percentage of the ALL SCRIPTURE has found itself in your bible?

You stated...'so whatever else God has said, is saying, and will say, isn't Scripture' so what does this mean for the church, the followers of Christ, His Bride?

Most Bible Colleges would teach this:

General Usage of Canon​

In ordinary language, canon means:

1. A recognized body of work​

A set of texts, artworks, or ideas considered authoritative, foundational, or definitive within a field.

• “The Shakespearean canon” → all works accepted as genuinely by Shakespeare
• “The Western literary canon” → the books that shaped Western thought

2. The official storyline in a fictional universe​

Used heavily in fandoms.

• “That movie isn’t canon” → it doesn’t count as part of the official story
• “Headcanon” → a personal interpretation that isn’t officially recognized

3. A rule or standard​

From the Greek κανών (kanōn) meaning measuring rod, rule, or standard.

• “The canons of good taste”
• “Scientific canon” → established principles

So in general English, canon = the accepted, authoritative set or standard.

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Canon in Biblical Context​

Here the word takes on a special, technical, and historical weight.

1. Canon = the authoritative list of sacred books​

When Christians speak of the canon of Scripture, they mean:

The officially recognized collection of books considered inspired and authoritative for faith and practice.

This includes:

• The Old Testament canon
• The New Testament canon

Different traditions (Jewish, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox) have slightly different canons, but the concept is the same:
the measuring rod that defines what counts as Scripture.

2. Why the word “canon”?​

Early church writers used κανών to mean:

• a rule of faith
• a standard of teaching
• a list of authoritative writings

By the 4th century, canon had become the technical term for the closed list of biblical books.

3. Canon implies boundaries​

Canon is not just a list; it’s a boundary marker.

It distinguishes:

• Scripture from non‑Scripture
• Inspired from edifying but not inspired
• Apostolic authority from later commentary

This boundary‑making function is why canon is so central to Christian identity and theology.

4. Canon vs. Apocrypha vs. Deuterocanon​

The term also creates categories:

• Canonical → fully authoritative
• Apocryphal → not accepted as Scripture
• Deuterocanonical → accepted by some traditions but not others

Canon becomes a map of theological authority.

Symbolic Summary ​

Realm	Meaning of Canon	Symbolic Function
General Culture	The accepted body of works	The “Hall of Fame” of ideas
Fandom	The official storyline	The “True Timeline”
Philosophy/Art	A standard or rule	The “Measuring Rod”
Biblical Theology	The authoritative list of inspired books	The “Boundary of Revelation”

Canon is always about authority, identity, and belonging—but in Scripture it becomes the sacred perimeter of divine speech.

 

[Stumpmaster]

Say you are right, then how much more of God's words are breathed out of His mouth that didn't make it into the bible?

Strange question. Why would anyone presume such a thing could be quantified.?

Psa 40:5 Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which you have done, and your thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.

Joh 20:30-31 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; (31) but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His Name.

Joh 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

 

[quietthinker]

No buzzer sound.

Interesting. I've never heard one even when I'm wrongly dividing.....at least according to some, and I must admit even according to myself. . I've too often used a crow bar instead of a scalpel.

 

[Jack]

When did God tell YOU 'Those who live "outside the Bible" are not Christians?'

So you taught the Bible. Pity your students!

These words are not in the bibles. So either God told you directly or it's man conceived thought.

So you can can come and go from the Bible and think you're a Christian? You really need to stop listening to those demons leading you to Hell Fire.

 

[Jack]

Many will say they use the bible to interpret the bible. But when soooo many Christians read the exact same text and come up with opposing conclusions by using other bible verses to try and justify their interpretation, it's somewhat insane.

But hey. You will stay in your lane and I in mine. There seems to be enough scope to cater for thousands of lanes of beliefs and practices. God is ok with that, maybe like when God caused division by confusing human languages.

Why would I want to be in your lane heading for Hell? YOU said your lane is heading for Hell Fire!

 

[One 2 question]

Most Bible Colleges would teach this:

General Usage of Canon​

In ordinary language, canon means:

1. A recognized body of work​

A set of texts, artworks, or ideas considered authoritative, foundational, or definitive within a field.

• “The Shakespearean canon” → all works accepted as genuinely by Shakespeare
• “The Western literary canon” → the books that shaped Western thought

2. The official storyline in a fictional universe​

Used heavily in fandoms.

• “That movie isn’t canon” → it doesn’t count as part of the official story
• “Headcanon” → a personal interpretation that isn’t officially recognized

3. A rule or standard​

From the Greek κανών (kanōn) meaning measuring rod, rule, or standard.

• “The canons of good taste”
• “Scientific canon” → established principles

So in general English, canon = the accepted, authoritative set or standard.

---

Canon in Biblical Context​

Here the word takes on a special, technical, and historical weight.

1. Canon = the authoritative list of sacred books​

When Christians speak of the canon of Scripture, they mean:



This includes:

• The Old Testament canon
• The New Testament canon

Different traditions (Jewish, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox) have slightly different canons, but the concept is the same:
the measuring rod that defines what counts as Scripture.

2. Why the word “canon”?​

Early church writers used κανών to mean:

• a rule of faith
• a standard of teaching
• a list of authoritative writings

By the 4th century, canon had become the technical term for the closed list of biblical books.

3. Canon implies boundaries​

Canon is not just a list; it’s a boundary marker.

It distinguishes:

• Scripture from non‑Scripture
• Inspired from edifying but not inspired
• Apostolic authority from later commentary

This boundary‑making function is why canon is so central to Christian identity and theology.

4. Canon vs. Apocrypha vs. Deuterocanon​

The term also creates categories:

• Canonical → fully authoritative
• Apocryphal → not accepted as Scripture
• Deuterocanonical → accepted by some traditions but not others

Canon becomes a map of theological authority.

Symbolic Summary ​

Realm	Meaning of Canon	Symbolic Function
General Culture	The accepted body of works	The “Hall of Fame” of ideas
Fandom	The official storyline	The “True Timeline”
Philosophy/Art	A standard or rule	The “Measuring Rod”
Biblical Theology	The authoritative list of inspired books	The “Boundary of Revelation”

Canon is always about authority, identity, and belonging—but in Scripture it becomes the sacred perimeter of divine speech.

So in history, who was it that God told to prepare a biblical canon? And, after many attempted to close it, or should we say, reopen it only to close it again, who was the actual person who had the final authority to close it, lock it and throw away the key?

They must've had supreme authority to undertake such an important task. I would've guessed it was the Head of the universal church, the Pope. And 73 books would've been the complete number.

But King James commissioned people to produce another biblical canon and closed it. He was able to sneak in 7 more books.

But the Protestants slowly reached into this sacred collection and removed not just those extra 7 but 7 more to make it 66.

What is the full, complete God appointed bible for Christ's single body, His one church? How many books did Jesus tell us to have in the biblical canon?

And for the purists sake, chapter and verse please.

 

[Jack]

So in history, who was it that God told to prepare a biblical canon? And, after many attempted to close it, or should we say, reopen it only to close it again, who was the actual person who had the final authority to close it, lock it and throw away the key?

They must've had supreme authority to undertake such an important task. I would've guessed it was the Head of the universal church, the Pope. And 73 books would've been the complete number.

But King James commissioned people to produce another biblical canon and closed it. He was able to sneak in 7 more book.

But the Protestants slowly reached into this sacred collection and removed not just those extra 7 but 7 more to make it 66.

What is the full, complete God appointed bible for Christ's single body, His one church? How many books did Jesus tell us to have in the biblical canon?

And for the purists sake, chapter and verse please.

So, are you inside or outside the Bible today? Don't have a clue? No answer expected!

 

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Strange question. Why would anyone presume such a thing could be quantified.?

Psa 40:5 Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which you have done, and your thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.

Joh 20:30-31 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; (31) but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His Name.

Joh 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Exactly. Therefore you and I know that God has and will never stop speaking words out of His mouth.

But some have claimed God has. That God has gone mute. That He tricked us and Jesus lied to His disciples. They did leave us as orphans. They didn't provide us God's words of life when Jesus left and went back to His Father. The Spirit of Truth didn't come. Or if He did, He caught the same virus and He became mute as well.

So sad, we don't get to hear ALL truth and every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

 

[Jack]

So sad, we don't get to hear ALL truth and every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

We? You said you're going to Hell. Don't include me in your WE!