We know it isn't in what we consider to be scripture i.e. the Holy Bible so it's probably from the Apocrypha or some other similar source.
The Case for the Sinless Ever-Virgin Mary.
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I haven't been dodging or snaking. Jesus and Mary Herself explicitly explain why God preserved Her from inheriting the stain of original sin, as well as why She didn't commit sins. However, again, their explicit words (spoken in modern day) are found in books that aren't found in the books that make up the Bible, and thus you automatically reject it. Therefore, it'd be a waste of my time to quote from Scripture that you reject. Unfortunately, you presently limit the knowledge of God to the books that make up the Bible (despite His apostle John mentioning twice that not everything Jesus said and did is written, etc.), but I don't because God can't and shouldn't be limited to any book(s). There is and will only ever be four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), but you can't forbid God from revealing information about His and His Mother's earthly life that isn't mentioned in the writings that make up the Bible, and they have/do.
Regarding your claims, you, like most Protestants, demand others to provide scriptural verses that explicitly appear in the Bible for what they believe in order to be true, but you don't abide by that standard yourself. If you did, then you wouldn't be stating as a fact that Mary of Joseph inherited the stain of original sin and committed sins, because nowhere in Scripture does it say "only Jesus was without sin," nor that "only Jesus never committed sins." Jesus, including, for example, children who have died without having committed sins, are exceptions to the "all have sinned" (Rom. 3:22). For these reasons, Rom. 3:22 isn't proof Mary sinned, nor that She can't also be an exception.
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I humbly say, God bless you for your Faith and good will, which led to you being able to recognize the Truth of this matter.
He was equal with God in the ability to instruct. Can you believe they wanted to stone him for that?
What is important is both in His Word and Revealed by God to Righteous men of faith,
to prevent those abominations from being discussed let alone accepted.
Keith Green exposed the abominations in a few short papers ; 'Chronicles'; that the world abomination attempted to erase from everyplace.
Charles Chiniquoy and dozens if not hundreds of former priests who repented likewise published or preached / made known/ the abominations and some or many of them may have been martyred for exposing the abominations.
Simply reading with understanding the Word of God, with God Granting Wisdom and Understanding to those who seek Him, is truly enough also. The many witnesses of the crimes are simply the natural result (or God Given result in Grace) of people seeking the truth.
It's illogical and blasphemous to think that God, the Most Holy and Pure One, Who abhors sin (not the sinner), willfully wanted to Incarnate Himself in and have for His Mother, a sinful and impure human. Jesus, God Incarnate, fully divine and fully human, didn't inherit the stain of original sin because His Mother didn't have it. Mary is second to Jesus because He preserved Her soul from inheriting the stain of original sin. In advance God Thought of creating the soul that was to be the soul of the Mother of God Incarnate, and because He knew Her soul would've been subject to the law of the first parents, He preserved it from inheriting the stain of original sin, and thus it became an immaculate soul capable of possessing the fullness of His Grace, then He infused it into the embryo at the moment of Her conception. These factors, coupled with being conceived by and born of two Just human parents and having a natural good will, resulted in Mary being free from sin, and thus a worthy dwelling place for God Incarnate, the Son of God, the Messiah, the Savior, the most Holy, Pure, and Perfect One, to take form in and live a divinely Holy life with in Spirit and Body on earth and in Heaven.
Jesus and Mary Herself explicitly said all that and more, however, these explicit words (spoken in modern day) are found in books that aren't found in the books that make up the Bible (The Gospels As They Were Revealed To Me, or The Poem of the Man-God, etc.), and thus you automatically reject it. Therefore, it'd be a waste of my time to quote from Scripture that you reject. Unfortunately, you presently limit the knowledge of God to the books that make up the Bible (despite His apostle John mentioning twice that not everything Jesus said and did is written, etc.), but I don't because God can't and shouldn't be limited to any book(s). There is and will only ever be four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), but you can't forbid God from revealing information about His and His Mother's earthly life that isn't mentioned in the writings that make up the Bible, and they have/do.
Regarding your claims, you, like most Protestants, demand others to provide scriptural verses that explicitly appear in the Bible for what they believe in order to be true, but you don't abide by that standard yourself. If you did, then you wouldn't be stating as a fact that Mary of Joseph inherited the stain of original sin and committed sins, because nowhere in Scripture does it say "only Jesus was without sin," nor that "only Jesus never committed sins." In 1 Pet. 2:22, neither does it say, "only Christ committed no sin," but rather, "Christ ... Who committed no sin." Jesus, including, for example, children who have died without having committed sins, are exceptions to the "all have sinned" (Rom. 3:22). For these reasons, Rom. 3:22 isn't proof Mary sinned, nor that She can't also be an exception.
He not only did things God can do, but He called Himself God because He is, which is why the Pharisees told them they were going to kill Him for making Himself God.
I think it would be better if no one pursued such questions from someone who brings such false teachings whether in person or on a forum. To ask such questions cannot produce any reliability at all, but furthers the confusion and deceptions from the sources that are not Biblical.
He wouldn't be making himself God, if he was God. You don't notice the contradiction evidently.
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Even if it isn't in the bible, it should not contradict the bible or be added to what God says in the bible. Catholics seem to have many more books that they deem 'scripture' as well as the Holy Bible.
It isn't me who thinks Mary is equal to Jesus. I admire Mary as a young woman given the enormous task of carrying the Son of God to be birthed as a human child. What a responsibility.
Your teachers have got it all wrong, Jesus 'didn't inherit the stain of original sin' as you put it not because of Mary but because he was the Son of God. I wish you would pray and seek God's word on this matter; not in written words but words planted by the Holy Spirit in your heart and mind.
For any human to be without sin they must be born again. That means they must recognise their sinful nature and seek forgiveness for the sin which separates us from God, which will include every wrongdoing. Then they need to give their live over to Jesus whose blood it is that cleanses us from that sin of separation and makes us part of God's family and joint heirs with Jesus himself. He also calls us 'saints' a Holy Nation and a Royal Priesthood. And because we are no longer separated from God we don't need any intercessor other than Jesus because we can go straight to god's throne with our prayers and petitions. Nobody can make these decisions for us, no parents or teachers; it has to be of our own free will that we turn to Christ in humble submission. When we have been born again the Holy spirit will come to live in us and guide us and give us gifts and help us to produce that spiritual fruit mentioned in our bibles.
I've been a Christian/born again for many years and I have found that Catholics don't really want what God is offering and prefer to stick with their catholicism rather than deny it and choose life in Christ Jesus. You all seem to dismiss the whole lot of us a 'Protestants' and use it in nearly all discussions. Well I would strongly urge you, yourself to protest against the deceit you have been fed.
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Have you ever noticed that when someone coverts to Rome they are always talking about "the church" while when someone is born again they are always talking about Jesus. Just an observation.
A person is a manKIND of being with a Living Body and Soul.
A name is the “identifier” of that Body and Soul, (living or dead).
Yes, ManKIND names their offspring.
Yes, God names manKIND, before and after the births of manKIND.
* Yes, Christ Jesus founded (established) ONE Church.
* Yes, Christ Jesus’ Church ONLY being “called” by Christ Jesus, “MY CHURCH”.
* Yes, Christ Jesus’ Church ONLY being “Located” WITHIN a Living Person.
* Yes, Christ Jesus’ Preaching INCLUDED oral, written, Old Testament AND oral teaching of Christ Jesus’ Newly Revealed NEW Testament Gospel…
* Preached out of the mouth of Jesus;
In fields, in streets, in gardens, in boats, in towns, in homes, in Temple, in Synagogue's.
(NEVER in a building called a “Catholic Church”.)
* Jesus appointed willing Jewish men, to CARRY on Jesus’ works, of oral Preaching to Jews OF Jesus’ NEW Testament Gospel TO Jews.
(NEVER did such appointed, willing and acting men (on behalf of Jesus’ Gospel), call their preaching / teaching “CATHOLIC”, or call themselves “CATHOLICS”, or call their venue, buildings, where they taught and preached “CATHOLIC”.
Catholicism, is the invention of Gentile men, who historically heard the preaching / teaching OF the Gospel OF Jesus Christ:
* Established buildings they called A Church.
* Established the Name Catholic to be exclusive to their Organization and Members.
* Established a position for their Head Leader.
* Established (without Peter’s knowledge or approval), he be recognized and appointed “posthumously” as “high priest and holy father” OF their Gentile Organization.
* Established (without Mary’s knowledge or approval), she be recognized and appointed with a whole convoluted mess of non-scriptural nor Orally taught, (by Christ Jesus, nor by Christ Jesus’ appointed Apostles) “accolades”, “titles”, “teachings” … INSTIGATED, PROMOTED, and for CENTURIES LONG, taught BY;
(TAUGHT TO: masses of ILLITERATE men)
Gentile men calling themselves members of an Organization, THEY established and called “Catholic”.
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No such word of God reveals an Earthly terrestrial man IS SINLESS.
God did NOT create or make MAN-KIND “sinless”.
God DID create AND make MAN-KIND, “very good”…and through the corruption of MAN-KIND’S offspring reproducing SEED….man-KIND became “corrupted”.
God OFFERED “willing” man-KIND an “order and way”, to become “pardoned”, “forgiven”, and “blessed with SALVATION”….
“IF” that individual had Heartful Belief IN God, “At the moment of that individual BODILY Physical DEATH”.
Jesus OFFERED “willing” man-KIND an “order and way”, to become “pardoned”, “forgiven” and “blessed with SALVATION”…
“BEFORE BODILY Physical DEATH”…
By, Through, Of….THAT individuals “HEARTFUL” WORD of COMMITMENT…OF Belief IN the LORD GOD, and VOW of His word, to PROMISE his BODY, at time of physical DEATH, unto the Lord God.
(THAT PROMISE, is effect, WHEN that man is WILLING to heartfully believe, WILLING to Declare his belief and WILLING to Give his body unto the Lord God, FOR his belief…
(Which is what…being CRUCIFIED WITH JESUS CHIRST is ALL ABOUT).
The Lord God….WILL NOT “remake” a CORRUPT BODY INTO A Glorious, Sinless, Holy BODY….that which IS NOT FREELY GIVEN the Lord God….BY the man himself.
Living MEN…ARE NOT MADE “SINLESS”..
Living MEN…ARE ONLY MADE “FORGIVEN”.
God Bless you,
Glory to God,
Taken
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