The Children of the Devil

[Stranger]

I better stop trying to please you with the scriptures, maybe someday you will find the wright answers for yourself.

In other words, you cannot answer my question as to who are the children of the devil? Or, don't want to, as you are a sinner also.

Stranger

 

[Helen]

don't forget you are surrounded by a cloud though, of other seekers; iow your reply is not made in a vacuum ok, you have a congregation right here, and prolly other ones wondering where you are right now, even missing you

Now that is a good and wise word. Well said.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

In other words, you cannot answer my question as to who are the children of the devil? Or, don't want to, as you are a sinner also.

Stranger

No! but I would say that I have tried.

 

[Stranger]

No! but I would say that I have tried.

Don't try...do it. Tell me who are the children of the devil, in your own words.

Stranger

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Don't try...do it. Tell me who are the children of the devil, in your own words.

Stranger

As I said in the scriptures before: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

 

[Stranger]

As I said in the scriptures before: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

Then, back to my original question. (1 John 3:8) says, "He that committeth sin is of the devil;" Are you saying you are not a sinner? Or, are you saying you are a sinner but do the righteousness of God?

(1 John 3:9) says "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." So, do you sin?

See, it's easy to go to the book of (1 John) and get real legal on believers. But ( 1 John) can bite you when you try it.

So, do you sin or not?

Stranger

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Then, back to my original question. (1 John 3:8) says, "He that committeth sin is of the devil;" Are you saying you are not a sinner? Or, are you saying you are a sinner but do the righteousness of God?

(1 John 3:9) says "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." So, do you sin?

See, it's easy to go to the book of (1 John) and get real legal on believers. But ( 1 John) can bite you when you try it.

So, do you sin or not?

Stranger

No! not willfully, but as I can see you already know about the above.

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

 

[bbyrd009]

No! not willfully

hmm. i'd like to believe the same of myself, but imo we commit many willful sins in a day, but they are just considered acceptable, and everyone around us has done them all of our lives, so we don't perceive them as being sin. i guess even prolly most of the things we do fall into this category, lots of "sins of convenience" etc.

"it is pointless to be for water conservation if all of your faucets are instant-on."

 

[aspen]

‘Get behind me, Satan’ comes to mind....

 

[Stranger]

No! not willfully, but as I can see you already know about the above.

I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Which brings us back to your original subject. Who are the children of the devil?

Stranger

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Which brings us back to your original subject. Who are the children of the devil?

Stranger

All that is sinful before God, esp. those who transgress his commandments.

 

[Stranger]

All that is sinful before God, esp. those who transgress his commandments.

Who...not what. So, do you sin or not?

Stranger

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Who...not what. So, do you sin or not?

Stranger

No! I do not practice sin:
With my mind I do not sin, but with my body is different with the law of sin.

Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:11

Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Romans 6:12

 

[Helen]

" whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother."

Then I think every one of us has a suspect genealogy ...

What comes to my mind is.."Let him who is without sin throw the first stone."
As Peter said- " who then can be saved.."

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Then I think every one of us has a suspect genealogy ...

What comes to my mind is.."Let him who is without sin throw the first stone."
As Peter said- " who then can be saved.."

I'am glad that you and me and others, have some scripture background.

An allusion to an utterance of Jesus' in John 8:7, viz. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”

Matthew 19:23-30 23Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." 25When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"

26Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." 27Peter answered him, "We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?" 28Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

29And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

 

[Stranger]

No! I do not practice sin:
With my mind I do not sin, but with my body is different with the law of sin.

Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:11

Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Romans 6:12

Oh? You don't 'practice' sin. You just sin with your body. That's handy. You don't sin with your mind? Please. You don't have covetous thoughts ever? You don't have lustful thoughts ever? Go ahead and lie to me.

So, what you show so far is that you're a sinner. Just like the rest of us. Why are you not a child of the devil? What makes one a child of the devil?

Stranger

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Oh? You don't 'practice' sin. You just sin with your body. That's handy. You don't sin with your mind? Please. You don't have covetous thoughts ever? You don't have lustful thoughts ever? Go ahead and lie to me.

So, what you show so far is that you're a sinner. Just like the rest of us. Why are you not a child of the devil? What makes one a child of the devil?

Stranger

You are trying to judge me with yourself, Why are you not taking heed of yourself?

He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
Micah 6:8 Micah 6 KJV

 

[Stranger]

You are trying to judge me with yourself, Why are you not taking heed of yourself?

He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
Micah 6:8 Micah 6 KJV

And who are you trying to judge with the topic of this thread?

You want to sit in judgement of others as 'children of the devil', yet you cannot define who the children of the devil are. Of course it is everyone who is not like you...but then you too are found to be a sinner and so you have no answer.

So, if you're a sinner, what makes others a child of the devil and you not?

Stranger

 

[WalterandDebbie]

And who are you trying to judge with the topic of this thread?

You want to sit in judgement of others as 'children of the devil', yet you cannot define who the children of the devil are. Of course it is everyone who is not like you...but then you too are found to be a sinner and so you have no answer.

So, if you're a sinner, what makes others a child of the devil and you not?

Stranger

You are trying to make me what you want me to be a sinner. I have proved you wrong with and without the scriptures many times.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Timothy 3:16

 

[aspen]

Children of the devil do not love perfectly - none of us love perfectly - unless we become adopted children of God and learn and practice loving we will remain children of the devil