THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

[Marilyn C]

The Jerusalem (city) that is above is our mother as the apostle wrote. He got this from the OT scripture that says we are born in Zion..."this one and that one were born in her"...Zion being referred to as a "her" because she is a mother. They are both allegories for the same thing, which we must understand that it is not a literal city or mount, they are just allegories for Christ and His collective church/body and kingdom in heaven, ie, heavenly. It is a city on a hill/mount (Zion)...because being spiritual/heavenly it is higher than the earthly

Yes, the heavenly Jerusalem is the `mother of us all.` And the heavenly Jerusalem is made up of two parts, (as is the earthly one). The city is NOT on the hill but further down. They are separate. King David had the ruling part on Mount Zion and the people were in the city further down.

1. Mount Zion - the ruling part. Christ`s own throne. (Ps. 2: 6)

2. The city - for the OT saints. (Heb. 11: 16)

 

[Marilyn C]

That's why I posted "God moves Heaven to earth"

ALL of God's people will be living with Him in the Holy City.

Hope you get to go there too.

Have you ever looked up at the universal heavens? Well, how is all that going to fit on this speck of dirt?

 

[Marilyn C]

Amen...it's the same gospel that is "to the JEW FIRST, then the Gentile".

So, the Apostle Paul was never given the revelation of the Body of Christ? (Eph. 3: 3 - 7)

Note: further revelation than the 12 apostles.

 

[Marilyn C]

THANK YOU for your post

Unbelievable how people try to disavow that which God has called unto His Son for Salvation, Fellowship and Freedom

So why didn`t God just make ONE group to start with? Why all the working with the nations and Jews for centuries. God is omniscient and knew they could never in their fallen state obey Him.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Have you ever looked up at the universal heavens?

I'm not into astrology, that's demonic mumbo jumbo

Maybe your husband can help you get on the right track there.

 

[Marilyn C]

Not from scripture

Good Morning @Marilyn C

Good morning David. I am so pleased to be having this great discussion with you and others. I know that it is a shock to you for you have been taught differently. And so was I. However, this is the last great truth to be clarified across the Bodu - the eternal purposes of God, and then we will go to glory. (Eph. 4: 11 - 13. That is when the New Man has the full truth of Christ - His character and His purposes. Then this New Man becomes the Perfect Man. (Eph. 2: 15 4: 13)

 

[Marilyn C]

I'm not into astrology, that's demonic mumbo jumbo

Maybe your husband can help you get on the right track there.

But saying `heaven comes to earth,` you are saying that the heavens above will be incorporated onto this ole earth. That to me is mind boggling.

 

[Marilyn C]

@Doug

The very scriptures you posted PROVE that His Body is His Bride

Paul says he is going to present his disciples to the Lord. Does Paul present us to the Lord? No. The Lord Himself will present us. (Jude 24)

 

[Marilyn C]

according to WHOM is it TWO parts
Some teacher who obviously is stuck on some kind of doctrine of men .
You are correct , however that the OLD test saints were promised the CITY
EVEN abraham was
HE LOOKED for the RIGHT CITY . the ONE BUILT OF GOD and not of men .
The sheep looked for this promise
but many died IN FAITH not having recieved THIS PROMISE .
TO include EVERYONE who died BEFORE JESUS CAME . BUT THEY darn sure had faith IN THIS MESSIAH
AND HIS rebuilding of the tabernacle that had fallen .
Many sought the earthen
Some tried to even MAKE JESUS THIS KING over the earthen , by mistake of course .
BUT HIS KINGDOM JUST aint of this world .
HIS KINGDOM , THIS CITY , THIS MOUNT ZION , THIS ISRAEL OF GOD
THIS is not earthen . AND ITS high time folks stop looking
to the earthen , to the earthen fleshly jew or any man .
TIME to seek that which is heavenly . WHEREIN all who do beleive IN JESUS are THE PEOPLE OF GOD ALL MIGHTY
and all who reject him and beleive not , WELL they , whether jew or gentile , BE TRAPPED UNDER SATAN
who will not and cannot free them . LOOK to the heavenly .
SEEK that KINGDOM
and the simplicty of THE TRUTH will come . WE BEEN DUPED BY MEN and its BIBLE TIME in the building for us all .

`But you have come to MOUNT ZION and to the CITY.` (Heb. 12: 22)

My English tells me that I read TWO parts there - one for ruling and one for the city.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

But saying `heaven comes to earth,` you are saying that the heavens above will be incorporated onto this ole earth. That to me is mind boggling.

I don't question the Lord.

He says He is moving His current dwelling place (Heaven) to earth, so that's what He's going to do and it shouldn't "boggle" anybody's mind at all. God's not a liar so he'll get it done because all things are possible with God.

And this will be after He re-creates the heavens and the earth and all that are of darkness and evil will be permanently locked away in hell

The Lord is all powerful so He's gonna git-R-done

 

[Marilyn C]

Again
Hyperpauline blindness.
They ALL PREACHED Jesus is the only way to heaven.

Your deal is so messed up.
Just plain ludicrous.

Yes, they all preached Jesus is the way, however, they did not preach the same inheritance.

 

[Marilyn C]

I don't question the Lord.

He says He is moving His current dwelling place (Heaven) to earth, so that's what He's going to do and it shouldn't "boggle" anybody's mind at all. God's not a liar so he'll get it done because all things are possible with God.

And this will be after He re-creates the heavens and the earth and all that are of darkness and evil will be permanently locked away in hell

The Lord is all powerful so He's gonna git-R-done

Where does God say He is moving?

 

[David in NJ]

Paul says he is going to present his disciples to the Lord. Does Paul present us to the Lord? No. The Lord Himself will present us. (Jude 24)

BOTH

Paul on earth and the LORD in Heaven

 

[David in NJ]

I don't question the Lord.

He says He is moving His current dwelling place (Heaven) to earth, so that's what He's going to do and it shouldn't "boggle" anybody's mind at all. God's not a liar so he'll get it done because all things are possible with God.

And this will be after He re-creates the heavens and the earth and all that are of darkness and evil will be permanently locked away in hell

The Lord is all powerful so He's gonna git-R-done

git-R- dun

love it

 

[Marilyn C]

well aint that untrue .
peter , james , jude
and all of them and all they preached too
THEY THE SAME BODY . believing , speaking , and teaching the same IDENTICAL gospel
to both the jew and gentile .
Paul was but ADDED INTO that BODY on the road to damascus
Man people get so easily tripped up on mens doctrines .

So, the 12 disciples were given the revelation of the Body of Christ? Then why was Peter separating himself from the Gentiles? (Gal. 2: 11 16)

 

[Marilyn C]

That's why I posted "God moves Heaven to earth"

ALL of God's people will be living with Him in the Holy City.

Hope you get to go there too.

`And I, John, saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down OUT - OUT OUT of heaven FROM, FROM, FROM God.` (Rev. 21: 2)

 

[Marilyn C]

BOTH

Paul on earth and the LORD in Heaven

Mmmm so Paul is going to present you on earth to Jesus. I`d like to see that!

 

[David in NJ]

Mmmm so Paul is going to present you on earth to Jesus. I`d like to see that!

We, who are spiritual "kings and priests" in Christ, yet here on earth lift UP/present our fellow saints in prayer:

Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, 16do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: 17that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, 18the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, 19and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power 20which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, 21far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.

22And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, 23which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

`And I, John, saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down OUT - OUT OUT of heaven FROM, FROM, FROM God.` (Rev. 21: 2)

That's why I posted "God moves Heaven to earth"

Where does God say He is moving?

from Heaven to earth after He re-creates the heavens and the earth and locks up all the evil in hell.

You don't have to participate if you don't want to.

There's plenty of room in hell.

git-R- dun

love it

Yep, the Lord's gonna git-R- dun which is how the devil knows his time is short!

The devil know God gonna take care of business and lock that boy's backside up in the slammer soon!

 

[David in NJ]

That's why I posted "God moves Heaven to earth"






from Heaven to earth after He re-creates the heavens and the earth and locks up all the evil in hell.

You don't have to participate if you don't want to.

There's plenty of room in hell.







Yep, the Lord's gonna git-R- dun which is how the devil knows his time is short!

The devil know God gonna take care of business and lock that boy's backside up in the slammer soon!

JESUS may be late-to-the party, for the amils have satan locked up already.................lol