The Coke Bottle!

[quietthinker]

Yeahhh, many of us have seen the movie 'The God's must be Crazy' and we have a good laugh but what do we laugh at?

How does one tell another what is going on when another's paradigm won't allow it to be understood?

Jesus had the same problem with his mates. He told them plainly what was going to transpire with himself to save them untold anxiety and grief but they didn't hear it....they couldn't hear it....why?

Their view/paradigm of the role of the Messiah did not equate with what Jesus was telling them.....they didn't know what to do with what he told them....so they dismissed it even though there was consciousness of their fear in asking.

Today the boat is no different....many of the views held are 'coke bottle' understandings which are defended to the death. The pride in 'waterproof' theories disable understandings which little children see.

 

[marks]

.many of the views held are 'coke bottle' understandings which are defended to the death.

That's a great example, although sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander.

The accusations fly back and forth, You're the blind one! No, you're the blind one!

So how do we avoid that?

Much love!

 

[quietthinker]

That's a great example, although sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander.

The accusations fly back and forth, You're the blind one! No, you're the blind one!

So how do we avoid that?

Much love!

I think it starts with self honesty.....ie, recognising what is ultimately morphed imaginings

 

[marks]

I think it starts with self honesty.....ie, recognising what is ultimately morphed imaginings

I don't remember from the movie, did the fellow ever have an actual Coke? Open the bottle and drink one?

Much love!

 

[quietthinker]

I don't remember from the movie, did the fellow ever have an actual Coke? Open the bottle and drink one?

Much love!

The story centres around an empty coke bottle that was thrown out of a light aircraft over a remote area and found by the natives of that area with their subsequent interpretations.

 

[marks]

The story centres around an empty coke bottle that was thrown out of a light aircraft over a remote area and found by the natives of that area with their subsequent interpretations.

I know, I remember that part.

He ended up throwing it back.

My hope is that as I show Scriptures in their context, and in harmony with the other Scriptures, it may be like the bushman being given an icy cold bottle of Coke, popping off the top, and quenching his thirst. Then he will understand what Coke really is.

Much love!

 

[marks]

btw, I've been meaning to say, nice picture, is that you?

 

[quietthinker]

btw, I've been meaning to say, nice picture, is that you?

yeah...about a year old

 

[marks]

yeah...about a year old

You aged quickly!!

 

[quietthinker]

You aged quickly!!

There yer go....planet earth has a habit of it .....buuut, at the resurrection, whaaaa laaa....what a different story!

 

[Yan]

I think what we called the world is the place of confusion because men were stay where they are and never tried to see a higher objective view of misunderstanding. In religion many people twisted the word of God regarding their own revelation from their own understanding and intelligence state, and many people use this ambiguous state as a place to blame each other as this state of grey where the intric politic can make an advantage from it to raise a hatred and provocative to gain electability. This where religion put into politic to brainwash the opposite. If the words of God has a reality then nobody would even twisted it, and today we were in this state as the scripture itself shown its own reality to real entity to all of Abrahamaic religion. As since beginning the words of God is straight.

If both animals were not exist on earth, do we still called it that way ?

 

[Wrangler]

See my thread on explicit teachings in the Bible.

 

[APAK]

Yeahhh, many of us have seen the movie 'The God's must be Crazy' and we have a good laugh but what do we laugh at?

How does one tell another what is going on when another's paradigm won't allow it to be understood?

Jesus had the same problem with his mates. He told them plainly what was going to transpire with himself to save them untold anxiety and grief but they didn't hear it....they couldn't hear it....why?

Their view/paradigm of the role of the Messiah did not equate with what Jesus was telling them.....they didn't know what to do with what he told them....so they dismissed it even though there was consciousness of their fear in asking.

Today the boat is no different....many of the views held are 'coke bottle' understandings which are defended to the death. The pride in 'waterproof' theories disable understandings which little children see.

Yep the Coke Bottle 'The gods must be crazy.' A hilarious movie with 4 different major events occurring simultaneously: the bushman eventually throwing the bottle away, the microbiologist being awkward with a woman, and the terrorist gang ..what's the other one, I forget..the school, and the kids?

It shows human nature and how we cope with change, new discoveries and paradigm shifts that threaten to replace our cherished old ones. Most of us resign ourselves in handling new paradigms by defending and safeguarding, out of ignorance, our old paradigms and familiar symbols in life for the sake of keeping the same communications and thoughts and ideas about life that we have been raised with or experienced. Most cannot deal with unfamiliar symbols and activities out of fear or because we are uncomfortable being out of our comfort zones. We prefer the status quo....

The same can be said especially about spiritual matters of the heart, and how one is raised or has learned and experienced scripture and doctrine in their lives. What we have come to believe about salvation and who is the Messiah and who is God as examples. When a 'new' symbol or ideas comes along that threatened ones fundamental and foundational spiritual structure, one usually deflects, ignores or even shoot it down with vigour and zeal. The threat is real because of mental fear and ignorance, and threatens to bring down ones core belief system.

APAK

 

[marks]

There yer go....planet earth has a habit of it .....buuut, at the resurrection, whaaaa laaa....what a different story!

For a one year old!

 

[Nancy]

You aged quickly!!

Ahahaha...was thinking th same thing Marks Like, wow...pretty mature one year old
You are a handsome dude @quietthinker

 

[Riverwalker]

God has already taken care of this. He has revealed himself to all of creation
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools

 

[quietthinker]

For a one year old!

 

[quietthinker]

Ahahaha...was thinking th same thing Marks Like, wow...pretty mature one year old
You are a handsome dude @quietthinker

I love you too Nancy

 

[Gary Urban]

Yeahhh, many of us have seen the movie 'The God's must be Crazy' and we have a good laugh but what do we laugh at?

How does one tell another what is going on when another's paradigm won't allow it to be understood?

Jesus had the same problem with his mates. He told them plainly what was going to transpire with himself to save them untold anxiety and grief but they didn't hear it....they couldn't hear it....why?

Their view/paradigm of the role of the Messiah did not equate with what Jesus was telling them.....they didn't know what to do with what he told them....so they dismissed it even though there was consciousness of their fear in asking.

Today the boat is no different....many of the views held are 'coke bottle' understandings which are defended to the death. The pride in 'waterproof' theories disable understandings which little children see.

I would offer another's paradigm won't allow it to be understood because God has created parables making it hard to understand. . save those who seek the hidden mysteries that are revealed to the believers .In that way without parables Christ spoke not .Therefore using the temporal things seen. . mixed with the unseen. In the end teaching us how to walk by faith the eternal.

A good example in found in Luke 9 Jesus presenting one parable hiding the understanding in a whole series of parable. While still wondering in doubt he would bring another and another . On one occasion (verse 46) the apostles it would seem thought Jesus standing right in front of them went off the deep end, a loony toon, and they stated a democracy as to who is the greatest Alfa dog .

They did not understand the work of the father that was working in Jesus but rather making it all about what the eyes see. In the end of the matter verse 55 he rebuked them and revealed to them they knew not what manner of spirit they were of. The spirit of this world

Luke 9;43-46 And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his disciples, Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying. Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest.

Luke 9: 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

No mixing of faith yoked with Christ. . . no rest in our work .He makes the burden lighter.