The Coming FALSE MESSIAH

[Davy]

PART 1
Those brethren serious about understanding the coming events for the end of this world prior to Christ's return on the last day of this world, bare with me on this, because I feel led by The Holy Spirit to give this study about the coming false one. There are so many misleading Bible interpretations on this subject that many brethren simply don't have a chance to understand what the coming false-Messiah/Antichrist is about, and who he actually is as written in God's Word. And our Heavenly Father and His Son did... reveal the identity of that coming false-Messiah at the end of this world in His Word. And it ain't... a pope. And if you think the attributes of that coming false-Messiah is that of some flesh king like those of past history written of in God's Word, then your understanding is way, way... off base from Bible Scripture.

Certain Biblical Truths must first be understood in prep for this study:

1. One must understand God's Word about the 2 separate dimensions of existence written about, i.e., this earthly one we live in, and the heavenly one where God and the angels dwell, which includes even Satan and the dead. (Per Rev.12:7 forward, Satan and his angels are kicked out of the heavenly dimension, not literally up from inside the earth. The idea of the bottomless pit is an expression for Satan's place of separation in the heavenly dimension away from God and His).

2. The abode of hell (or hades per the Greek), is a holding place for the wicked dead, and is in... the heavenly dimension, not inside the earth. The whole universe is part of the 'earthly' dimension, and that of course includes this earth and all planets, stars, galaxies, etc.

3. Those in the heavenly with the "image of the heavenly" CAN... manifest upon this earth, and live upon this earth, without the need of a flesh body. (Gen.18 & 19. Lord Jesus appeared to Abraham before... He was born through woman's womb. And Jesus ate the food that Abraham prepared for Him and the other two men that appeared with Jesus at Abraham's tent door.)

4. That the future resurrection is not a raising of our decayed flesh body from the casket. Only Lord Jesus' flesh body was raised from the dead and then "quickened" by The Spirit to a heavenly type body, with which 1 Peter 3 says He went to the "spirits in prison" and preached The Gospel to them.

5. We ALL... (the wicked included), have Apostle Paul's "spiritual body" of 1 Corinthians 15 already dwelling inside our flesh body today. Paul declared this in 2 Corinthians 5 that if our earthly house (flesh) were dissolved, we have another body not made with hands, but eternal in the heavens from God. One needs to get used to understanding this, because it is about God's Word regarding the existence of the 2 separate dimensions of 'flesh' and 'Spirit'. (John 3:6).

6. Per Hebrews 4:12, God created us with 3 parts to our being. We have a flesh body, and a spirit body, and a soul. Our spirit body is a heavenly image body type for the heavenly dimension. Our soul is our person, the part that makes up 'you'. The soul is attached to the spirit body. Per Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 at flesh death, an invisible "silver cord" connecting our flesh body with our spirit & soul is severed, and then our flesh goes back to the earthly elements where it came from, but our spirit with soul goes back to God in the heavenly dimension. This is why Apostle Peter said in 1 Peter 4:5-6 that The Gospel was preached also to the dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

7. If you do not understand the above Bible Truths written in God's Word, and instead you have surrounded your life with a FLESHY understanding of this present world, then you are way... behind in understanding the events soon to come upon this earth, supernatural events, events that Christ and His warned us about written in His Word.

8. Very few Churches today are warning brethren about these coming supernatural events that Jesus and His Apostles declared in His Word about the end. Most Churches today are instead preaching many messages of man's philosophy and Socialism, when they should be warning their congregations about the coming supernatural events upon this earth in our near future, and that according to God's written Word. And it is written.

(Continued...)

 

[Davy]

PART 2
There is a SINGULAR coming "antichrist", not just the "many antichrists" only...

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV

Those John was speaking to he showed had ALREADY HEARD that "antichrist" shall come. That is in the SINGULAR tense, not plural. The latter phrase "many antichrists" is... in the plural. The above verse is actually easy if one simply heeds it as written. There is both a specific Antichrist figure, and his followers that are the "many antichrists". This idea is not the only Scripture about this distinction.


In Christ's Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13 He warned us of both a singular Antichrist figure, and also the many antichrist servants of the Antichrist. He simply used a different description of it than what John used above.

The Many Antichrists Who Only Claim To Be Jesus Christ:

Matt 24:4-5
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, "Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in My name, saying, 'I am Christ'; and shall deceive many."
KJV

That above is the idea of John's "many antichrists" workers that John said already exist. They have been here claiming to be Jesus Christ ever since Jesus died on the cross. Who would those "many antichrists" be that CLAIM... to be "Christ"? (See the following link for a small List of those who have claimed to be Jesus Christ already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus)


The Singular Antichrist At The End With Supernatural Working:

But the following later warning in that Matthew 24 chapter by Lord Jesus is different. It is a warning for the 'end', because at Matthew 24:15 Jesus reveals the timing with the placing of Daniel's "abomination of desolation" idol in Jerusalem kicking off the events for the final generation with the future "great tribulation"...

Matt 24:23-26
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, "Lo, here is Christ, or there"; believe it not.

If you'll notice in the above, that is NOT about many Christs the deceived will be claiming is here. It instead is about a singular "Christ" they will say is here, or there. Jesus told us to not believe it.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, "Behold, He is in the desert"; go not forth: "behold, He is in the secret chambers"; believe it not.
KJV

Same thing in the above 26th verse, that is about a singular false Christ that Lord Jesus is warning the deceived will be claiming is in the desert, or in the secret chambers, and Jesus said to not believe it.

So why... does that 24th verse above say plural "false Christs", because the CONTEXT of verses 23 & 26 are SINGULAR? And this is very.... important to understand, because Jesus warned us TWICE about that coming false Christ above.

That above phrase "false Christs" from the Greek New Testament manuscripts is made up of 2 Greek words:

Greek pseudo -- means false

Greek christos -- which means Christ, singular.

In the Greek language, just because a word may have an 's' on the end of it, like 'christos', that does NOT necessarily mean it is plural like our English would have it. Greek Christoi for example, is plural.

Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance noted this above verse 24 error in the KJV translation of Greek pseudochristos to "false Christs" (plural). He instead translated Greek pseudochristos to 'a spurious Messiah', singular tense...

NT:5580
pseudochristos (psyoo-dokh'-ris-tos); from NT:5571 and NT:5547; a spurious Messiah:
KJV - false Christ.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

QUESTION: Do you think maybe since Jesus warned early on in Matthew 24:4-5 about 'many' that come claiming to be Christ, that caused Bible translators to automatically assume Jesus was speaking of many false Christs also in the later Matt.24:23-26 verses? But Dr. James Strong caught it, which is why he translated Greek pseudochristos as singular to "a spurious Messiah" (NT:55800.

Is there yet another... reason why Dr. Strong would translate that being about a SINGULAR false-Christ? YES! there is another reason why.. LOOK closely at that Matthew 24:24 verse subject again...

Matt 24:24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
KJV

Mind you, Dr. Strong translated that "false Christs" as singular 'a spurious Messiah' (spurious means false). So keep that in mind when going over that 24th verse. NOTE what that 'spurious Messiah' will have the power to do. He will "... shew great signs and wonders...". That means a SUPERNATURAL WORKING of signs and miracles!

Did Lord Jesus say anything about that kind of supernatural working by those "many" of the earlier Matthew 24:4-5 Scripture? No... He showed those "many" mentioned earlier will only CLAIM to be Christ, nothing about great signs and wonders worked by them.

But this one here, this 'spurious Messiah" of Matthew 24:23-26, he is coming to work SUPERNATURAL GREAT SIGNS AND WONDERS upon this earth that IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, would deceive even Christ's very elect!

That "if it were possible" phrase means it is NOT possible for Christ's very elect to be deceived, for they are sealed with God's seal by The Holy Spirit. But just what LEVEL of deceptive SUPERNATURAL POWER would ALMOST deceive Christ's very elect?

Think about that, because Lord Jesus is revealing this coming 'spurious Messiah' will be a SUPERNATURAL BEING, not a normal flesh human. This spurious Messiah is ACTUALLY coming to TRY and play Lord Jesus Christ with the actual POWER TO DO MIRACLES like our Lord Jesus!

This is the difference with what Lord Jesus is warning us here in Matthew 24 about the end of this world, the "many antichrists" of John only claiming to be Christ, but without the power of supernatural miracles. And then a coming singular "antichrist" (spurious Messiah) WITH SUPERNATURAL POWER to work MIRACLES on earth to deceive the whole world into believing he is God, The Christ.

(Continued..)

 

[Davy]

PART 3
Is this warning about the coming of a specific SUPERNATURAL "antichrist" for the end of this world, and his "many antichrists" workers covered in other Bible Scripture witness? Yes, by Apostle Paul:

2 Thess 2:1-12
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Apostle Paul was having to remind the brethren there about events that must happen first prior to Christ's coming and gathering of the Church on that "day of Christ" (means "day of the Lord" per Greek kurios in some Greek NT manuscripts). Paul even warned against those who had been passing false letters as if... from him and the Apostles. That is not something to be surprised about, for God's Word warns us about the "tares" sowed by the enemy, and those of Satan's servants who creep in to destroy.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Two events MUST happen first, before Jesus' future return. That "man of sin" must be revealed exalted as... God, sitting in a traditional stone "temple of God", which is about a stone temple in JERUSALEM, and exalt himself there as... God, and over all that is even called... God, or that is worshipped. And along with that future event will be that great "falling away" (apostasy in the Greek).

Some men today try to twist the above to fit their false religious philosophy, wrongly claiming the above "man of sin" is either about a pope, or that it is not... even about a specific "antichrist" that is to come, but only the "spirit of antichrist" idea of 1 John 4.

But Apostle Paul makes this easy to know who that "man of sin" will be at the end of this world, because he was pointing to the very same 'spurious Messiah' that Lord Jesus was warning about in Matthew 24 and Mark 13.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
Like I had said, Paul was having to remind the brethren here on this matter of events leading up to Christ's coming and gathering of the Church. Obviously, someone among them was trying to twist it, even as those still do to this day. (I will cover Paul's teaching on those also, eventually.)
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

We are shown the one who is doing that withholding today per the Daniel 10 chapter. It is Archangel Michael. Turn with me to the Daniel 10 chapter...

Dan 10:20-21
20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
KJV

The Daniel 10 chapter is about shadow events taking place in the heavenly. They parallel events that happen on earth. That "prince of Persia" is symbolic for Satan himself. That is most likely Archangel Gabriel that says Archangel Michael only is withholding that "prince of Persia" with him. The Revelation 12:7 war in heaven between Michael and his angels vs. Satan and his angels, which is still future and for the end, is when Archangel Michael will no longer be withholding Satan in heaven. Satan and his angels will then be cast down to this earth as written there. That means out of the heavenly dimension, and into our earthly dimension, in plain sight on earth. And sad to say, the majority are not prepared for that coming supernatural event at the end of this world.

That... is the subject Apostle Paul is actually covering with that "withholdeth" idea along with that "mystery of iniquity", which is about John's "many antichrists" idea. And that is about the "many" which Jesus said in Matthew 24:4-5 that come claiming... they are Christ, yet there is no mention there of their working great signs and wonders to try and prove it. Those are simply flesh servants of the devil, and represent John's "many antichrists" and Paul's "mystery of iniquity" which they said are already at work.

2 Thess.2:8-12
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:

Why do you think the KJV translators put that "Wicked" in capitals? It's like they pretty well knew just who Apostle Paul meant with that label, but didn't want to shock the Church that read that. Well, it is now time. That "Wicked" is about the devil himself. That is who Paul pointed to with Michael withholding the devil in the heavenly until it is time for Michael to "stand up" by that Rev.12:7 war in Heaven (see also Daniel 12:1).

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

There Apostle Paul repeats Christ's warning about the coming 'spurious Messiah' who will work those great "signs and lying wonders", that if it were possible, would deceive even Christ's very elect. (See Matthew 24:23-26).

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Those in Christ who listen to Him in His Word, and stay in His Word as written, are not those that perish. Paul is talking about those who will become apostates from Christ that instead heed the many false interpretations of Scripture and false traditions of men. And there are many of those false interpretations and traditions of men being pushing in many of today's Churches, so watch out. (Jesus showed 5 out of 7 Churches in Asia had false doctrines in them. That has not changed for today's Churches - see Rev.2 & 3).

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
KJV

How is your mind in Christ brethren? Do you heed the many interpretations by Satan's "tares" that creep in so that what God's Word actually says 'as written' becomes totally unrecognizable? Are you in confusion by men's doctrines instead of recognizing the simplicity of God's written Word and staying in it?

Do you realize those deceived servants of the "synagogue of Satan" also come to Christian forums to push those many false interpretations, and try to confuse the simplicity of Bible Scripture? (See Rev.2:9 and 3:9 where Jesus warned about those who 'claim'... to be Jews, but are not, but are that "synagogue of Satan", which means they secretly work for the devil against Christ and His Church).

With that 2 Thessalonians 2 chapter, we easily see how Apostle Paul was giving the SAME warning that Lord Jesus was giving about the coming 'spurious Messiah' that He warned about in Matthew 24:23-26. Paul simply gives us a bit more detail about that coming 'spurious Messiah' as that "man of sin" that will work those SUPERNATURAL great signs and wonders connected with a JEWISH 3rd STONE temple to be built in JERUSALEM for the end of this world prior to Christ's 2nd coming.

 

[Davy]

PART 4
Any more Bible witnesses about that coming 'spurious Messiah' the "antichrist", and his servants the "many antichrists" that work for him? Yes, again by Apostle Paul:
I'm going to use The New Living Translation Bible for this in 2 Corinthians 11...

2 Cor 11:1-15
1 I hope you will put up with a little more of my foolishness. Please bear with me.
2 For I am jealous for you with the jealousy of God Himself. I promised you as a pure bride to one husband—Christ.

Paul is pulling that "pure bride" idea from the Isaiah 54 allegory where it says God is our True Husband. It means the Church is to remain "a chaste virgin" in the spiritual worship sense, remaining faithful waiting on Lord Jesus Christ to come (see the KJV on this).

3 But I fear that somehow your pure and undivided devotion to Christ will be corrupted, just as Eve was deceived by the cunning ways of the serpent.
4 You happily put up with whatever anyone tells you, even if they preach a different Jesus than the one we preach, or a different kind of Spirit than the one you received, or a different kind of gospel than the one you believed.

Who might that "different Jesus" be those false apostles preach instead? That's again about the 'spurious Messiah' Lord Jesus warned us about. This means there are false apostles within the Church that preach that "different Jesus", the coming 'spurious Messiah' set to appear as Christ working miracles in Jerusalem at the end of this world.

5 But I don't consider myself inferior in any way to these "super apostles" who teach such things.
6 I may be unskilled as a speaker, but I'm not lacking in knowledge. We have made this clear to you in every possible way.
7 Was I wrong when I humbled myself and honored you by preaching God's Good News to you without expecting anything in return?
8 I "robbed" other churches by accepting their contributions so I could serve you at no cost.
9 And when I was with you and didn't have enough to live on, I did not become a financial burden to anyone. For the brothers who came from Macedonia brought me all that I needed. I have never been a burden to you, and I never will be.
10 As surely as the truth of Christ is in me, no one in all of Greece will ever stop me from boasting about this.
11 Why? Because I don't love you? God knows that I do.
12 But I will continue doing what I have always done. This will undercut those who are looking for an opportunity to boast that their work is just like ours.

Apostle Paul didn't take a salary for preaching The Gospel. He was a tent maker by trade, and that is what he would do mostly for his living. But those "super apostles", how do they work with money from the Church? I don't think I need to go into that, it's pretty obvious what those "super apostles" do whom Paul says are false.

13 These people are false apostles. They are deceitful workers who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ.
14 But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
15 So it is no wonder that his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve.
(Holy Bible, New Living Translation ®, copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. Used by permission of Tyndale House Publishers. All rights reserved.)

There then, in 2 Corinthians 11, we have yet another Bible Witness about that coming "antichrist", 'spurious Messiah', Satan himself DISGUISED as an "angel of light". The KJV uses the idea of their being 'transformed' instead of disguised, but the Greek points to the idea of disguise. What does that suggest exactly?

It reveals how Satan himself... will disguise himself as The Christ as that coming 'spurious Messiah' to Jerusalem which Lord Jesus warned us about for the end of this world, prior to Jesus' 2nd coming to gather His Church. Thus with this 2 Corinthians 11 chapter we have a THIRD WITNESS to Christ's warning about the coming of a 'spurious Messiah' that will play Him on earth for the end, working great signs, wonders, and miracles that will deceive the whole world, except Christ's very elect (Matt.24:24; Rev.13:4-8).

 

[CrowCross]

That "if it were possible" phrase means it is NOT possible for Christ's very elect to be deceived, for they are sealed with God's seal by The Holy Spirit. But just what LEVEL of deceptive SUPERNATURAL POWER would ALMOST deceive Christ's very elect?

The good thing is if you're a christian alive today and don't die prior to the coming of the antichrist you'll be gathered to Jesus in the clouds during the rapture of the church. (Those that have already died will be resurrected).
After the rapture there will be brand new christians, people who have come to Christ during the tribulation and they will be subjected to the anti-Christ and the false prophets.

There may be deceptions prior to Christ first of two comings...at the beginning of the tribulation and then the second at the end of the tribulation...which may include such things as the disclosure of the "aliens" (fallen angels masquerading) presenting their amazing lies.

 

[Davy]

PART 5
Any more Bible Witnesses on this coming 'spurious Messiah' that will play God in Jerusalem for the end?

Yes, Apostle John also gave this witness in Christ's Book of Revelation...

Rev 13:11-15
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Revelation 13:1 shows the 1st beast that comes up out of the "sea" of waters, which represent a beast kingdom structure over the whole earth (see Christ's definition in Rev.17:15).

But this is a 2nd beast, the beast king, and not the beast kingdom. This 2nd beast, the "another beast", is that 'spurious Messiah' that is to come and play Christ in Jerusalem at the end.

That "dragon" title we learned back in Rev.12:9 is simply another one of Satan's titles. So if this "another beast" speaks "as a dragon", it most likely means he is the "dragon", or Satan himself. So once again just as Paul was actually pointing to Satan in 2 Thess.2 coming as "that Wicked" and "man of sin", this is another confirmation of that Biblical fact for the end.

This is easy to know because in the next few verses we are shown how this "another beast" will have the power to work... those great signs and wonders and miracles on earth to deceive the whole world ....

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
KJV

The many false interpretations by men's traditions will instead try to sway you to believe that above "another beast" is the "false prophet" of Rev.16 and Rev.19. What does their false interpretation do to the simplicity of who the Scriptures are actually pointing to as that coming "another beast"? Their doctrines of men are instead designed to confuse that above Revelation 13:11-14 Bible Scripture about that coming 'spurious Messiah' which Lord Jesus warned the Church about in Matthew 24:23-26.

Who the "false prophet" and "beast" of Rev.19:20 are that go into the "lake of fire" when Lord Jesus returns is not that difficult to understand, if one stays in God's Word as written. The false theory of man's Amillennialism wrongly suggests that on the day of Christ's future coming, all... the wicked are destroyed right then, and right then God's future new heavens and a new earth time begins. But that is NOT what Bible Scripture teaches.

God's Word teaches when Jesus comes, He will start a "thousand years" reign over the resurrected wicked dead and unsaved nations, with His elect, using the "rod of iron" given Him by The Father. (See Rev.20 & Psalms 2; ... and John 5:28-29 about the wicked dead also being raised on the day of His 2nd coming).

This is very important to know, and very simple:
That Revelation 20 Scripture witnesses that no unsaved soul will perish in the future "lake of fire" until AFTER... that "thousand years" reign by Christ, and that is the ONLY time when those born in the flesh will be judged and sentenced to perish. As of to this day... ONLY Satan and his angels so far have already been judged and sentenced to perish in that future "lake of fire".

What does that mean for the "beast" and "false prophet" going into the "lake of fire" on the day of Christ's future coming per Revelation 19:20? That is PRIOR to the time of God's Great White Throne Judgment of the unsaved, is it not? (see Rev.20 for after the 1,000 years reign by Christ). That means NO flesh born man will perish in that "lake of fire" until after... Christ's "thousand years" reign of the future. And because of this, it points to that "beast" and "false prophet" just being ROLES IN A CHARACTER PLAY which Satan as that "another beast" will fulfill. This is why Rev.19:20 does NOT show the "dragon" (Satan) going into that "lake of fire" along with that "beast" and "false prophet" roles on the day of Christ's coming.

All that may seem difficult to grasp, but it's not really, because those in Christ do not follow a God that casts unsaved people into that future "lake of fire" before they have faced Christ's Judgment Seat which ONLY happens AFTER His future coming, and even then per Matthew 25, those 'goats' are only separated at His coming and not destroyed yet at His coming, but instead they must stand before God's Throne a thousand years later at the Final Judgment. Only then, after Christ's future "thousand years" reign, will the unsaved wicked go into the future "lake of fire" along with Satan, the abode of hades, and even the concept of death (see Rev.20).

Now you know, or should realize, what men's false Amill theory is designed to do. It is designed to get rid of the simplicity of Bible Scripture about that future "thousand years" reign over the wicked and unsaved by Lord Jesus and His elect Church.

 

[Davy]

PART 6
Still any more Bible Witnesses about Satan coming to earth as the future "antichrist" at the end? Sure, there's more Bible witnesses.

Rev 11:3-7
3 And I will give power unto My two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
KJV

Who just might that above "beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit" be? Who was Christ pointing to in Revelation 9:11 about the angel that is a king, and is over that bottomless pit?

Rev 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
KJV

Those "Abaddon" and "Apollyon" titles for Satan means 'The Destroyer'. That Apollyon title actually comes from the Greek word for 'perdition'. Who is it again that has ALREADY... been judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire"? The devil and His angels...

Matt 25:41
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
KJV

Isa 30:31-33
31 For through the voice of the LORD shall the Assyrian be beaten down, which smote with a rod.
32 And in every place where the grounded staff shall pass, which the LORD shall lay upon him, it shall be with tabrets and harps: and in battles of shaking will he fight with it.
33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; He hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.
KJV

Who then is the real... "son of perdition" that Apostle Paul was pointing to in 2 Thessalonians 2:3? It could not have been Judas Iscariot, because by that time of Paul preaching The Gospel Judas had long been dead. Satan himself is who that "son of perdition" title is really about, because Satan has already been judged and sentenced to PERDITION in the future "lake of fire". Judas has not been judged and sentenced to perish yet, no flesh man has been judged to perish yet.

Now you should... be able to recognize the simplicity of the following Scriptures which are pointing to Satan himself as that one who goes into 'perdition'...

Rev 17:8
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
KJV

That should be simple that's about Satan that will ascend out of the bottomless pit, and eventually go into perdition at the future "lake of fire" after Christ's future 1,000 years reign. We even learned per the Revelation 11 Scripture that one will ascend from the bottomless pit to kill God's future "two witnesses" in JERUSALEM at the end of this world.

The below Scripture is about Satan himself as this "beast" that goes into perdition to the future "lake of fire". He will represent the "little horn" king that comes up among the ten horns (ten kings). And these ten kings do not receive their power until Satan shows up on earth as this "beast"...

Rev 17:11
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
KJV

Rev 17:12-13
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
KJV

 

[Davy]

PART 7
Now I'm going to talk a bit about what all the above Scripture Witnesses mean, about Satan coming as the future "antichrist", "beast" king, the "another beast", "that Wicked", and "man of sin", etc. Why will our Heavenly Father and His Son allows this to happen at the end of this world just prior to Christ's future 2nd coming?

Apostle Paul in 2 Thess.2 actually revealed why God is allowing this to happen at the end; it is as a 'test' and type of just judgment upon those who received not... the LOVE OF THE TRUTH, meaning GOD'S TRUTH IN HIS WORD. Thus Paul says God is sending those who rebel against Him a "strong delusion". That "strong delusion" is Satan coming to earth to PLAY Lord Jesus Christ, in JERUSALEM.

The following Bible Scripture is a parable with God using the flesh historical "king of Tyrus" as a symbol for Lucifer himself...

Ezek 28:12-19
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

That idea of "perfect in beauty" means God created Satan the full pattern of the image of man from God's Own Image of man likeness. (I laugh at those who keep pushing Satan's lie that the image of man is about a flesh body of man only.) Lucifer was created as a beautiful... cherub, angel. He does not have a goatee, pitchfork nor wear red flannel underwear. He has the image of man, and it is the full pattern of perfection in beauty God's Word here says.

13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Was the historical flesh "king of Tyrus" ever in God's Garden of Eden? No, of course not. But Lucifer was. So this is a major revealing that God is actually pointing to Lucifer here, and not the historical king of Tyrus.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

That's another confirmation that God is pointing to Lucifer, and not the flesh king of Tyrus. Lucifer is a created cherub, a heavenly type being. Yet he also has the image of man from God, as all angels do.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Lucifer originally... was perfect in his ways, following God at His Throne, right there at God's Altar of the stones of fire. As a "cherub that covereth", that means it was Lucifer's job to guard God's Throne. Lucifer instead rebelled, and coveted God's Throne, wanting to be The GOD. Thus he fell, but he still even to this day, wants to be worshiped in place of God.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Isaiah 24:22 points to the Satan's little worker kings over the earth will be cast into his pit prison along with him when Lord Jesus comes at His future 2nd coming. And after many days, those kings will be visited (meaning after Christ's future "thousand years" reign.) Per the proverb about Lucifer in Isaiah 14, in Christ's future "thousand years" reign, one will look over into the pit at Satan and say, "Is this the man that...?"

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
KJV

That above part in 'red' is very revealing about God's future destruction of Satan. It reveals God is going to cause that fire from within Satan to burn him up, while Satan is UPON this earth in plain sight of those who see it. That friends in Christ, is yet another... Bible Witness that Satan is coming to OUR earthly dimension, here on earth with his angels, in plain sight. He will show up on earth as that 'spurious Messiah'.

 

[Davy]

The good thing is if you're a christian alive today and don't die prior to the coming of the antichrist you'll be gathered to Jesus in the clouds during the rapture of the church. (Those that have already died will be resurrected).
After the rapture there will be brand new christians, people who have come to Christ during the tribulation and they will be subjected to the anti-Christ and the false prophets.

There may be deceptions prior to Christ first of two comings...at the beginning of the tribulation and then the second at the end of the tribulation...which may include such things as the disclosure of the "aliens" (fallen angels masquerading) presenting their amazing lies.

No room for man's false Pre-trib Rapture doctrines here. Christ's Church for 1,800 years held to a Post-tribulational coming of Lord Jesus Christ, and Lord Jesus Himself showed He comes AFTER... the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27).

I suggest you get back into your Bible and read it for yourself and check out your teachers.

 

[CrowCross]

No room for man's false Pre-trib Rapture doctrines here. Christ's Church for 1,800 years held to a Post-tribulational coming of Lord Jesus Christ, and Lord Jesus Himself showed He comes AFTER... the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27).

I suggest you get back into your Bible and read it for yourself and check out your teachers.

I'm not really following what you're saying as the early churched believed in the pre-trib rapture...though they might not have called it as such.

You are correct, the verses you listed refer to the actual physical coming of Jesus at the end of the tribulation...but there are verses that also recognize a pre-trib return of Christ.

Let me ask you this...what will the world look like near the end of the tribulation? Will it be rainbows, puppy dogs, butterflies and daisies..or...a world dealing with destruction?

 

[Davy]

I'm not really following what you're saying as the early churched believed in the pre-trib rapture...though they might not have called it as such.

You are correct, the verses you listed refer to the actual physical coming of Jesus at the end of the tribulation...but there are verses that also recognize a pre-trib return of Christ.

Let me ask you this...what will the world look like near the end of the tribulation? Will it be rainbows, puppy dogs, butterflies and daisies..or...a world dealing with destruction?

Not the subject of this thread.

 

[CrowCross]

Not the subject of this thread.

I was simply responding to your reply....you made the reply...now appear to be backpedaling.

Perhaps you can answer this part......what will the world look like near the end of the tribulation? Will it be rainbows, puppy dogs, butterflies and daisies..or...a world dealing with destruction?

 

[Davy]

I was simply responding to your reply....you made the reply...now appear to be backpedaling.

Perhaps you can answer this part......what will the world look like near the end of the tribulation? Will it be rainbows, puppy dogs, butterflies and daisies..or...a world dealing with destruction?

You are now on my IGNORE list.

 

[CrowCross]

You are now on my IGNORE list.

Yes, you can't address the issue so you flee.

 

[quietthinker]

You are now on my IGNORE list.

Did you know that it is the Anti Christs who rattle on the most about Anti Christs? It's like the devil loves his own press.

 

[Davy]

Did you know that it is the Anti Christs who rattle on the most about Anti Christs? It's like the devil loves his own press.

Another that gained my IGNORE LIST.

 

[Wrangler]

the coming false-Messiah/Antichrist

Driving down Main St the other day, I saw an Islamic billboard that read, “The Messiah has arrived.”

 

[Davy]

Driving down Main St the other day, I saw an Islamic billboard that read, “The Messiah has arrived.”

Wishful thinking by Islam.

The Messiah of The Bible is the model, not Islam's Mahdi.

Islam will believe the false-Messiah who will be setup by a small group of Jews in Jerusalem, will be their Mahdi.

John 5:43
43 I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
KJV

Daniel 11 about the "vile person" is to come to power as 'king' through "a small people" in Jerusalem, which if you know about the "tares" that crept in among Judah (Jews), that's who that small group represents, children of the devil hiding within the Jews, i.e., the evil basket of figs of Jeremiah 24 that returned to Jerusalem along with those who went captive to Babylon and returned.

Just as those "tares" hidden in Moses' seat misled the majority of the people at Christ's 1st coming to have Him crucified, likewise those "tares" will setup their "king of the world" (Satan) as Messiah and falsely claim he is of the seed of David. There is no other way for a FAKE Messiah to try and mimic that office of Messiah. It is tied to the tribe of Judah and house of David.