The Coming FALSE MESSIAH

[Truth7t7]

You have not proven that Apollyon is Satan.

Revelation clearly distinguishes between Apollyon and Satan - as does the NT writings and even the OT

Apollyon is a specific named Angel - just as Satan has his own name
'scholars' are confused about many things in Scripture.

Just as the Archangel Michael has his own name
Just as the angel Gabriel has his own name

Apollyon Is Satan In The Greek Language "Fact"

You're now a Greek scholar, having knowledge above the late professor of Hebrew and Greek (James Strong) Big Smiles!

Your Claim Is "False"

Apollyon is used 1 time in the Holy Bible Rev 9:11 and it's the Greek word used for Satan

Strong’s Definitions
Ἀπολλύων Apollýōn, ap-ol-loo'-ohn; active participle of G622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):—Apollyon.

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KJV Translation Count — Total: 1x
The KJV translates Strong's G623 in the following manner: Apollyon (1x).

 

[David in NJ]

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Apollyon Is Satan In The Greek Language "Fact"

You're now a Greek scholar, having knowledge above the late professor of Hebrew and Greek (James Strong) Big Smiles!

Your Claim Is "False"

Apollyon is used 1 time in the Holy Bible Rev 9:11 and it's the Greek word used for Satan

Strong’s Definitions
Ἀπολλύων Apollýōn, ap-ol-loo'-ohn; active participle of G622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):—Apollyon.

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KJV Translation Count — Total: 1x
The KJV translates Strong's G623 in the following manner: Apollyon (1x).

ek language does not assign Apollyon to Satan but religion does.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You have not proven that Apollyon is Satan.

Revelation clearly distinguishes between Apollyon and Satan - as does the NT writings and even the OT

Show us where the OT clearly distinguishes between Apollyon and Satan. The name Apollyon (Hebrew: Abaddon) is not even mentioned anywhere in the OT.

Apollyon is a specific named Angel - just as Satan has his own name

Who do you think the locusts in Revelation 9 represent? Do you not understand that they represent fallen angels? If you do understand that, then who does scripture say is the king of the fallen angels? Verses like Matthew 25:41 and Revelation 12:9 call them "his angels" in reference to Satan. So, the description of Apollyon being the king of the locusts only fits Satan if you understand that the locusts represent the fallen angels.

'scholars' are confused about many things in Scripture.

Just as the Archangel Michael has his own name
Just as the angel Gabriel has his own name

Satan has multiple names besides Satan. Apollyon is one of them. Another name for Satan is Beelzebub, as the Pharisees called him (Matthew 12:24). Many believe his original name was Lucifer. Paul's reference to "Belial" in 2 Corinthians 6:15 is likely a reference to Satan, also. Each name describes a different characteristic of who the devil is. The name Satan means Adversary or Accuser. The name Apollyon means Destroyer. Satan is both an adversary/accuser and a destroyer.

 

[Douggg]

Apollyon Is Satan In The Greek Language "Fact"

You're now a Greek scholar, having knowledge above the late professor of Hebrew and Greek (James Strong) Big Smiles!

Your Claim Is "False"

Apollyon is used 1 time in the Holy Bible Rev 9:11 and it's the Greek word used for Satan

Strong’s Definitions
Ἀπολλύων Apollýōn, ap-ol-loo'-ohn; active participle of G622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):—Apollyon.

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KJV Translation Count — Total: 1x
The KJV translates Strong's G623 in the following manner: Apollyon (1x).

Who is the falling star in Revelation 9:1-2 who opens the bottomless pit where Apollyon is ?

 

[Truth7t7]

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ek language does not assign Apollyon to Satan but religion does.

Oh Sure, Your now A Greek Scholar, Greater Than the Professor In Greek (James Strong) "Smiles"!

Apollyon is used 1 time in the Holy Bible Rev 9:11 and it's the Greek word used for Satan

Strong’s Definitions
Ἀπολλύων Apollýōn, ap-ol-loo'-ohn; active participle of G622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):—Apollyon.

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KJV Translation Count — Total: 1x
The KJV translates Strong's G623 in the following manner: Apollyon (1x).

 

[Truth7t7]

Who is the falling star in Revelation 9:1-2 who opens the bottomless pit where Apollyon is ?

Revelation 20:1-2KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

 

[David in NJ]

Oh Sure, Your now A Greek Scholar, Greater Than the Professor In Greek James Strong "Smiles"!

Apollyon is used 1 time in the Holy Bible Rev 9:11 and it's the Greek word used for Satan

Strong’s Definitions
Ἀπολλύων Apollýōn, ap-ol-loo'-ohn; active participle of G622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):—Apollyon.

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KJV Translation Count — Total: 1x
The KJV translates Strong's G623 in the following manner: Apollyon (1x).

scholars often make mistakes when they add or subtract from the words of GOD

scholars assumed on their own that Apollyon is Satan = the Scriptures deny that assumption

Thus why John said: "in Hebrew Abaddon"

Abaddon is the place of the dead = OT
Sheol and Abaddon lie open before the LORD; how much more the hearts of the children of man!

Whereas Satan roams the earth = Job 1:6-7
One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.
“Where have you come from?” said the LORD to Satan.
“From roaming through the earth,” he replied, “and walking back and forth in it.”

Satan continues roaming the earth and will do so until the 2nd Coming of Christ = 1 Peter 5:8
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Satan also rules from above the earth = Ephesians 2:2
You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world.
He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God.

Satan has yet to be cast out of the heavens = Revelation 12:7-9
Then a war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.
But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels.
And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Satan has NEVER been locked up in the Abyss - but - will only go be sent there at the 2nd Coming of Christ = Rev 20:1-3
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key to the Abyss, holding in his hand a great chain.
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. And he threw him into the Abyss, shut it, and sealed it over him, so that he could not deceive the nations until the thousand years were complete.
After that, he must be released for a brief period of time.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 20:1-2KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Revelation 20:1-2 will take place after Jesus has returned and casted the beast and the false prophet into the lake of fire.

So it is not that angel in Revelation 20:1-3. Also that angel is not falling from heaven.

Try again.

Revelation 9:
1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

What angel is cast down to earth in Revelation 12:7-9 ?

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 20:1-2 will take place after Jesus has returned and casted the beast and the false prophet into the lake of fire.

Jesus returns in the resurrection of all and final judgement of all, he will dissolve this earth by fire at his revealing (Gone)

You can claim 1,000 times that "Mortal Life" continues after the second coming, this false claim doesn't exist in scripture

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

[Davy]

you suckling long and hard from the teets of inclusivism ecumenicalsim .
OF COURSE the popes are such , or at least of that spirit .
WAKEY WAKEY davy , THERE ARE MANY ANTI CHRISTS who roam this earth .
Some have far more influence than others , but many are the anti christs .
IN fact
out of all the anti christs I SEE
THE POPE has the most influence over this world than any other .
Though it works not alone . the nar realm has a great influence too .
Even presidents have quite a bit of influence too .
But none quite as much as do the popes . in fact
its going to be the ecuemincal inclusivsim that this WHORE sold to all relgions
that will merge all religions . AND its center will be IN JERUSALEM TOO .
And you keep thinking the great apostacy is not yet arrived . OH IT HAS
on it has indeed . But yes , ITS G ONNA GET WORSE . Its peaking and it will peak .

POPE-A-PHOBIA is what you have, what I will call it anyway.

You are trapped in the backwaters of your fleshy mind.

The actual Antichrist that is coming will be a SUPERNATURAL being. Don't you remember how Apostle Paul said in 2 Corinthians 11 that Satan is transformed into an angel of light, and his ministers (angels) as ministers of righteousness? That is the kind of event that is going to happen in our near future, and the world governments are already laying it out with their, 'they must be aliens from another planet' advertisement, the pope agreeing with them.

 

[Davy]

LOL!! In my post #206 I tried to prevent the fantastical, Religious fiction stories from coming forth, but now that you opened the flood gate, it just can't help but get more crazy from there.

In my post #214, I briefly but specifically clarified the current situation of satan after the Ascension of Christ
So, if you think that I don't understand scripture, its worse for you, because you don't even have a vague clue about Isa. 42:1-9 and the power of Christ's Death, Resurrection and Ascension, that was accomplished by God against satan!!

You have simply been deceived by men's traditions.

What Lord Jesus did on His cross was to defeat death and devil for us, YET... God still has things for the devil to do as part of His Plan of Salvation. That is why at the end, in our near future, Satan and his angels are coming to earth to sit on a throne with a Jewish 3rd temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself as God. He is going to be allowed to mimic Christ like he tried to do back in the old world when he first rebelled in wanting to be GOD.

But you have been lied to, and obviously think Christ's Kingdom has already come on earth today. It has not. Only Christ's Kingdom of The Spirit is here on earth today, through His many-membered body of believers. This is why Lord Jesus said in John 18:36 that His Kingdom is NOT... of this world, meaning of this present time, otherwise His servants would have fought to not have Him delivered up to be crucified.

Furthermore, no way did the following happen at the cross...

Rev 12:8-12
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV

Verse 11 is a direct pointer to those on the 5th SEAL of Revelation 6. When the souls under God's Altar in Heaven asked, "How long, O Lord..."; they were told to wait a season, until their fellowservants and brethren are killed as they were for giving the Testimony of Jesus Christ, The Gospel.

Rev 6:9-11
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?"

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
KJV

Their Testimony is ESPECIALLY FOR THE END of this world during the "great tribulation" as Jesus showed in Mark 13 about some of us who will be delivered up to give a TESTIMONY for Jesus Christ.

 

[Truth7t7]

The actual Antichrist that is coming will be a SUPERNATURAL being.

The Future Human Man, The Antichrist Seen Below In (Daniel) 11:37 Will Be A Hebrew/Jew In Decent, His Fathers Worshipped The True Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)

(Daniel) 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Examples: God Of His Fathers

(2 Kings) 21:22KJV
22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.

(2 Chronicles) 21:10KJV
10 So the Edomites revolted from under the hand of Judah unto this day. The same time also did Libnah revolt from under his hand; because he had forsaken the Lord God of his fathers.

 

[Earburner]

You have simply been deceived by men's traditions.

What Lord Jesus did on His cross was to defeat death and devil for us, YET... God still has things for the devil to do as part of His Plan of Salvation. That is why at the end, in our near future, Satan and his angels are coming to earth to sit on a throne with a Jewish 3rd temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself as God. He is going to be allowed to mimic Christ like he tried to do back in the old world when he first rebelled in wanting to be GOD.

But you have been lied to, and obviously think Christ's Kingdom has already come on earth today. It has not. Only Christ's Kingdom of The Spirit is here on earth today, through His many-membered body of believers. This is why Lord Jesus said in John 18:36 that His Kingdom is NOT... of this world, meaning of this present time, otherwise His servants would have fought to not have Him delivered up to be crucified.

Furthermore, no way did the following happen at the cross...

Rev 12:8-12
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV

Verse 11 is a direct pointer to those on the 5th SEAL of Revelation 6. When the souls under God's Altar in Heaven asked, "How long, O Lord..."; they were told to wait a season, until their fellowservants and brethren are killed as they were for giving the Testimony of Jesus Christ, The Gospel.

Rev 6:9-11
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?"

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
KJV

Their Testimony is ESPECIALLY FOR THE END of this world during the "great tribulation" as Jesus showed in Mark 13 about some of us who will be delivered up to give a TESTIMONY for Jesus Christ.

What?? You remain clueless of WHEN satan was cast out of heaven and onto this earth, and what Mat. 12:43-45; Mark 3:27 and Luke 11:24-26 is explaining and teaching.
John 12
27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
31 Now is the judgment of this world: NOW shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Not OUT OF heaven only, but to ALL who repent towards God and are Born again of God's Holy Spirit.

As for Rev. 6:9-11, that is strictly about the OC saints ONLY, who by faith were all waiting for "the promise that was to come", who was Jesus.
These are they whose names were written in a "book of Remembrance" (Malachi 3:16-18), because God's Gift of His Holy Spirit had not yet been permanently given to anyone at all, until after Christ's death and the shedding of His blood. These were the MANY OC. Saints who came out of their graves after Jesus' death and walked around in Jerusalem, as did Christ for 40 days.
Mat. 27:50-54.

Yes!! The book of Rev. is NOT ONLY about the future.

 

[Davy]

What?? You remain clueless of WHEN satan was cast out of heaven....

I actually know more about it Biblically than you do. Can you explain what God was talking about in Isaiah 14 when pointing to Lucifer? Can you explain what God was talking about in Ezekiel 28 with His using the flesh "king of Tyrus" as a type for Satan? I doubt you could explain any of that, and that is why you have allowed yourself to be deceived by those you listen to who point to someone other than Satan as the coming Antichrist at the end of this world.

 

[covenantee]

POPE-A-PHOBIA is what you have, what I will call it anyway.

You are trapped in the backwaters of your fleshy mind.

The actual Antichrist that is coming will be a SUPERNATURAL being. Don't you remember how Apostle Paul said in 2 Corinthians 11 that Satan is transformed into an angel of light, and his ministers (angels) as ministers of righteousness? That is the kind of event that is going to happen in our near future, and the world governments are already laying it out with their, 'they must be aliens from another planet' advertisement, the pope agreeing with them.

You're apparently afraid of post #236.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Who is the falling star in Revelation 9:1-2 who opens the bottomless pit where Apollyon is ?

It has to be an angel of God. God would not give authority to a fallen angel over the bottomless pit. In Revelation, stars represent angels. It speaks of the star falling from heaven to earth, but don't get thrown off by that wording. That doesn't mean it's talking about a fallen angel. The word "fallen" in Revelation 9:1 just means descended. It's just referring to an angel of God descending from heaven to earth.

The Greek word translated as "fallen" in Revelation 9:1 is pipto and one of its definitions is "to descend from a higher place to a lower". So, that's all it means in that verse. It's just talking about a star, representing an angel of God, descending from heaven to earth.

 

[David in NJ]

POPE-A-PHOBIA is what you have, what I will call it anyway.

You are trapped in the backwaters of your fleshy mind.

The actual Antichrist that is coming will be a SUPERNATURAL being. Don't you remember how Apostle Paul said in 2 Corinthians 11 that Satan is transformed into an angel of light, and his ministers (angels) as ministers of righteousness? That is the kind of event that is going to happen in our near future, and the world governments are already laying it out with their, 'they must be aliens from another planet' advertisement, the pope agreeing with them.

imho = the pope will be the false prophet pointing to the Antichrist just as John the Baptist pointed to CHRIST