Well if a pastor is getting paid its a yearly salary their getting paid correct?
And you leave your purse behind cause your not getting paid money enough to need a purse...
The Deception of Tithing and Paid Pastors
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And you leave your purse behind cause your not getting paid money enough to need a purse...
Rockerduck
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This is getting old.... so I'll finnish with one last post, I cant find in Jesus's time that anyone got paid to preach, sure they got feed and their everyday needs like the oxen were met as they did Gods will by those they served but they were never paid to show up a preach....
My first thought was hey thats been removed from my bible.... what the heck, even though I had read it before
Ok ok 1 more... I think the problem with getting paid and mainly alot of money is someone saying.. hey what a nice gig you got going here... I can see why your a preacher...I would (imagine) if a pastor has 2 offers hes more likely to take the one with the most cash...
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To the morning star thing, now I believe...... that most christians dont use a concordence and only read the bible..... and if the niv is the number 1 seller when someone goes up and says satan didnt fall jesus did and then grabs their niv bible and shows them morning star in both places, the avg christian wont have any idea what to do.... and since its the number 1 seller I imagine most new christians would be likely to get it at whatever percentage that might be.... If... it said son of the morning or something other than morning star you wouldnt have that problem but it doesnt... and as we get closer to the end theres more chance for that to happen.
I have no problem with overseers getting paid, if indeed they labor. However, the system that has been created has produced a professional Christian class who are more concerned with how much money they can get instead of tending the flock. They go to Bible college and get a degree, then set out to pursue a Christian career. Not that much different from the world.
"See what Jesus told his disciples concerning getting paid when they preached:
MAT 10:7-10 "And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons; freely you received, freely give. "Do not acquire gold, or silver, or copper for your money belts, or a bag for your journey, or even two tunics, or sandals, or a staff; for the worker is worthy of his support.
Notice that the first thing Jesus told them was, "freely you received, freely give". That clearly means the gospel did not cost them anything and they could not charge for preaching it! The second thing Jesus told them was, "do not acquire gold, silver or copper (money) for your money belts. In other words, you are not to collect any money for your preaching! The third thing Jesus said was that the worker was worthy of his support. This seems strange after the first two statements until we study a little further. The Greek word used here for support is "trophe" which means nourishment as in getting to eat food. These preachers were allowed to eat food when traveling away from their homes to preach. So food was their support, not money!"
Excerpt From Don Britton's article Paid Pastors Unbiblical from christianmyths.org
MAT 10:7-10 "And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons; freely you received, freely give. "Do not acquire gold, or silver, or copper for your money belts, or a bag for your journey, or even two tunics, or sandals, or a staff; for the worker is worthy of his support.
Notice that the first thing Jesus told them was, "freely you received, freely give". That clearly means the gospel did not cost them anything and they could not charge for preaching it! The second thing Jesus told them was, "do not acquire gold, silver or copper (money) for your money belts. In other words, you are not to collect any money for your preaching! The third thing Jesus said was that the worker was worthy of his support. This seems strange after the first two statements until we study a little further. The Greek word used here for support is "trophe" which means nourishment as in getting to eat food. These preachers were allowed to eat food when traveling away from their homes to preach. So food was their support, not money!"
Excerpt From Don Britton's article Paid Pastors Unbiblical from christianmyths.org
It's all God's money.
Give no thought to the morrow, sparrows, lillies etc.
The modern "church" is so far removed from first century christianity that it would be completely unrecognizable to the Apostles.
Give no thought to the morrow, sparrows, lillies etc.
The modern "church" is so far removed from first century christianity that it would be completely unrecognizable to the Apostles.
amigo de christo
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you aint kidding . I just got called a religious extremists for telling an athiest about his dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
And a so called christain called me AN EXTREMIST . not a soul one told that atheist about his dire need to BELEIVE ON JESUS .
yet when i did , I got called a religious extremist . YEAH . figure that one out .
False all inclusive love has sold this generation to the devil . and they think its God and its his love .
amigo de christo
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Be very careful about some of the folks on the site sister .
One told me a few weeks back the church has no need for me to remind them about
HAVING to BELEIVE ON JESUS and to go tell it to others .
I knew that man of anti christ was lying to me .
But anyway a few days back i found an atheist on this site.
Now upon examination had , that man and others NEVER ONCE told this atheist about HIS dire need
to repent and BELIEVE ON JESUS . rather they sold him some wacked out stuff .
SO i decided HEY lets preach what and WHO this man really needs .
SO i told him about JESUS and then HIS need to repent and to beleive on HIM .
AND GUESS what sister
THE same man that had told me to stop preaching about the need to BELIEVE ON JESUS to the church
NOW CALLED ME A RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS . WOW for preaching JESUS to an atheist .
WE GOT ALL INCLUISIVIANS amongst us and THEY do teh work of satan and of anti christ . Watch out .
cause though they holler love all day , HEED not a word one outta they lips .
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