The Desecration of the Second Temple.

[Earburner]

You know that and I know that but there are still those in Israel who haven't even read a new Testament bible.

Yes, I do know that you do know. However, in today's technology, the NT scriptures are readily available to anyone who has a cell phone or a desk top.
Let's be real here. The Gospel has been preached in all the world. So now what? Then shall the end come. Matthew 24:14.

Please excuse my repetiveness, but there are those here who falsely believe that Israel will get a "second chance", in their concept of a Millennial kingdom on this earth.
Some may even think (and fall for it), that Jesus is spiritually orchestrating the false "peace and safety", that shall be manifested, after a 3rd WW in the Euphrates region. Revelation 9:13-21.
Could it be that the Russian/Ukraine event might spill over to the southern part of the Black Sea? Turkey is where that river originates from, with three other countries that border it Syria, Iraq and Iran.
Hmm..., four angels. Let's think about that.

As for Revelation 9:1-12 and the "scorpion sting", I have thoughts on that as well.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Yes, I do know that you do know. However, in today's technology, the NT scriptures are readily available to anyone who has a cell phone or a desk top.
Let's be real here. The Gospel has been preached in all the world. So now what? Then shall the end come. Matthew 24:14.

Please excuse my repetiveness, but there are those here who falsely believe that Israel will get a "second chance", in their concept of a Millennial kingdom on this earth.
Some may even think (and fall for it), that Jesus is spiritually orchestrating the false "peace and safety", that shall be manifested, after a 3rd WW in the Euphrates region. Revelation 9:13-21.
Could it be that the Russian/Ukraine event might spill over to the southern part of the Black Sea? Turkey is where that river originates from, with three other countries that border it Syria, Iraq and Iran.
Hmm..., four angels. Let's think about that.

As for Revelation 9:1-12 and the "scorpion sting", I have thoughts on that as well.

As referring to building another temple it is already in the process.

 

[quietthinker]

As referring to building another temple it is already in the process.

what? they've dug the foundations next to the Dome of the Rock?

 

[Heart2Soul]

what? they've dug the foundations next to the Dome of the Rock?

They have gathered the material and have made the pieces that go in the temple and are now having the priests learn how to do the sacrifice on the alter.

 

[Heart2Soul]

If you are truly interested in learning more this article explains it all.
Update on the Building of the Third Temple | Jewish Voice

Edit: just to add this was written in 2006....so much more has happened since then.
Edit #2: here is a more recent article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ha...ing-the-temple-in-that-dig-is-right-1.5359051

 

[quietthinker]

If you are truly interested in learning more this article explains it all.
Update on the Building of the Third Temple | Jewish Voice

Edit: just to add this was written in 2006....so much more has happened since then.
Edit #2: here is a more recent article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ha...ing-the-temple-in-that-dig-is-right-1.5359051

These are private sites H2S. ie, they are not the official Governmental position.

 

[Earburner]

They have gathered the material and have made the pieces that go in the temple and are now having the priests learn how to do the sacrifice on the alter.

In my honest opinion, I don't see that ever happening. But if it does, then I would be totally convinced that Jerusalem is "Mystery, Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots".
Regardless of what countries do allow for animals to be sacrificed for religious principals and/or rights,
all the animal activists in the world, spearheaded by the UN, will be up in arms against Israel for picking up that practice again.
Animal rights are now under UN global jurisdiction, and animals are not going to be allowed to be used for sacrificial purposes for religious reasons.

Not only that, it's also a slap in the face of God the Father, who sacrificed His only begotten Son, "the Lamb of God" for them, as well as for us?

Wasn't one "abomination that MAKETH desolate", of "shedding innocent blood" by them, enough? Proverbs 6:16-19.
I hate to even think about the wrath of God upon anyone, who should think to repeat "the overspreading of abominations" again.
KJV-Daniel 9:27.

 

[Heart2Soul]

These are private sites H2S. ie, they are not the official Governmental position.

My point is they are in preparation of it...

 

[Earburner]

My point is they are in preparation of it...

EB Post #001
Because of the corruption going on within the religious doctrines of "church-ianity", and the many Bible versions that are running rampant throughout the world,
I don't think that many here understand the depth of meaning, that is revealed in KJV Daniel 9:24-27.
KJV Dan.9[27] And he [Jesus] shall confirm the [New] covenant with many [of his disciples] for one week [the 70th wk.]: and in the midst of the [that 70th] week he [Jesus, by His crucifixion] shall cause the [animal] sacrifice and the oblation [temple services] to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations [Jewish continuation of animal sacrifices] he [Jesus] shall make it desolate [void of God/destroyed], even until the consummation [the very end], and that determined [verse 24] shall be poured [out] upon the desolate [both Jews and Gentiles- Acts 10:45].

 

[quietthinker]

My point is they are in preparation of it...

Could we then deduct that your private view is preparing the authorities for future policies?

Unless these matters become official Israeli policy all the yada yada is just a spinning of the wheels with the carriage going nowhere.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Could we then deduct that your private view is preparing the authorities for future policies?

Unless these matters become official Israeli policy all the yada yada is just a spinning of the wheels with the carriage going nowhere.

Oh you guys....I have watched the documentaries on tv...read the articles in the Jewish newspapers...and subscribed to The Voice of Israel emails...
God told me to keep my eyes on Israel and that is what I am doing.
God hasn't finished His business with Israel yet....it's still got more to go.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Here is a video interview with one of the Rabbi's.

 

[Heart2Soul]

A full documentary

 

[Heart2Soul]

Don't be uninformed...if you're going to argue with facts then there is nothing more to say.

 

[quietthinker]

Don't be uninformed...if you're going to argue with facts then there is nothing more to say.

I think you have just not heard or ignored my statement of these sites being private sites....or don't understand the implications.
People can say anything, believe anything and prepare anything they want....make as many sites as they want...even broadcast it to the world..... yet without Official Israeli Policy this stuff remains in the private domain and stays there no matter how hard they spin the wheels.

Any third temple would be a public political matter irrespective of any private aspirations. It's well worth taking this into consideration before drawing all sorts of conclusions based on your personal interpretation of some scriptures.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I think you have just not heard or ignored my statement of these sites being private sites....or don't understand the implications.
People can say anything, believe anything and prepare anything they want....make as many sites as they want...even broadcast it to the world..... yet without Official Israeli Policy this stuff remains in the private domain and stays there no matter how hard they spin the wheels.

Any third temple would be a public political matter irrespective of any private aspirations. It's well worth taking this into consideration before drawing all sorts of conclusions based on your personal interpretation of some scriptures.

The Orthodox Jews (the Sanhedrins) are the ones who believe it must be completed.
Not all the Jewish people agree with the building of the temple. Is that stopping them from doing it...nope.
It is fulfillment if prophesy.
Christian believers are in agreement that we are the temple of Christ. Those Jewish people who haven't been saved are seeking the arrival of their Messiah.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I think you have just not heard or ignored my statement of these sites being private sites....or don't understand the implications.
People can say anything, believe anything and prepare anything they want....make as many sites as they want...even broadcast it to the world..... yet without Official Israeli Policy this stuff remains in the private domain and stays there no matter how hard they spin the wheels.

Any third temple would be a public political matter irrespective of any private aspirations. It's well worth taking this into consideration before drawing all sorts of conclusions based on your personal interpretation of some scriptures.

Oh and the fact that the sites are private sites doesn't change the fact that they are building it.

 

[quietthinker]

Oh and the fact that the sites are private sites doesn't change the fact that they are building it.

Building it? what?, a model in a desert location? definitely not where they claim it should be....the very spot where the dome of the Rock now stands.

As far as Prophecy goes, these are Jesus words 'Oh Jerusalem, Jerusalem how oft would would I have gathered you as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings but you would not. Behold your house is left to you desolate and you will not see me again till you say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord' Matthew 27:37-39

....and when will that be? When Jesus returns in the clouds, these words will be wrung from unwilling lips because of the sheer weight of truth that now stands undeniable...that he is the Messiah. A truth they have denied and continued to deny for millennia. ....while their brazen denial is attempting to be propped up with the vain hope of National Israel returning to its past glory days by re cranking the old animal sacrifices.

Edit....Oh, and by the way, nowhere does the scripture tell us to keep our eyes on Israel.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Oh, and by the way, nowhere does the scripture tell us to keep our eyes on Israel.

While in prayer that's what He told me when I asked what to be focused on and what He wanted me to pray about.
I am done....you are too much of a legalistic religious theologian and I am a faith filled, spiritual minded, operating in the power of the Holy Spirit child of God. I trust in Him and everything He tells me.
Good night

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello,

In Luke 14, Jesus told a "parable" that indicated that Israel will attempt to build a new/renewed Temple, where the the temple is represented metaphorically as a tower in keeping with OT prophecies, but in the Luke parable Jesus tells them they would look silly and become mocked by the nations around them, for trying too.

He also Goes on to describe the battle that will be seen from Jerusalem, i.e. Armageddon, and that the king/leader in Jerusalem will consider whether he can beat the King fighting the nations or if he cannot, then he will send a delegation to seek the terms of peace with that "king."

This section of Luke ends with Jesus indicating that salt is worthless if it has lost its salt and as such it will be discarded by men.

It is my view that any attempt by Israel to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem will be the trigger that causes all the kings of the earth together at Armageddon to put a stop to Israel building the Temple one last time.

Now my understanding is that Armageddon will happen within the next 25 or so years, where the Lord will judge the Gentile nations for trampling His sanctuary and His earthly Hosts over a 2,300 year period. At this time Israel will have to repent of their continual idolatrous worship, both past and present, during the period from Isaac right up and until the present time.

God also tells us prophetically that when He begins to gather Israel to Himself, that He will plant them in the Fertile Field of Christ, and that He will teach them on the religion of Christ, where they are living scattered through out the whole earth. That He will cleanse them with water in preparation to become a Kingdom of His Priests, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the nations.

There are many passages when considered in the context of the original texts, speak of these things happening.

Israel has tried many time since 70 AD to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem but each time their plans have been thawed such that the attempts to rebuild the Temple have been abandoned.

We often need a "fact check," even on Christian forums to know what the truth of the matter is.

Shalom