The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

[reformed1689]

Correct.
There is no “Roman” Catholic Church.

“Roman” simply refers to one of twenty Liturgical Rites that comprise the CATHOLIC Church.

Pretty sure I’ve already educated you in this point . . .

You have already pointed out how Catholics try to distract from the real issue, yes. But the churches that follow the Bishop of Rome and his false teaching and the false teachings of his church are the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You have already pointed out how Catholics try to distract from the real issue, yes. But the churches that follow the Bishop of Rome and his false teaching and the false teachings of his church are the Roman Catholic Church.

WRONG again, sparky.

Try to pay attention:
There are some TWENTY Liturgical rites. These include the Melkite, Maronite, Ruthenian, Alexandrian, Byzantine, Coptic, etc.

They are iin FULL Communion with the Bishop of Rome – but are NOT “Roman” Catholics.
They are:
Melkite Catholics
Maronite Catholics
Ruthenian Catholics
Alexandrian Catholics
Byzantine Catholics
Coptic Catholics - and so on.

They make up the “Catholic Church”. That is the official name since the FIRST Century.

Do your homework . . .

 

[Ezra]

They are iin FULL Communion with the Bishop of Rome – but are NOT “Roman” Catholics.

put them in a bag shake them up. dump them out still catholic false teaching no matter what

 

[BreadOfLife]

put them in a bag shake them up. dump them out still catholic false teaching no matter what

No - just the same unbroken line of Apostolic teaching for 2000 years.

Your sect probably only goes back less than 50-100 years . . .

 

[Taken]

WRONG.
Acts 9:45

WRONG YOURSELF
Read your own claim!
You said Acts 9:4-5 , Your post; # 712.



Glory to God,
Taken

 

[reformed1689]

WRONG again, sparky.

Try to pay attention:
There are some TWENTY Liturgical rites. These include the Melkite, Maronite, Ruthenian, Alexandrian, Byzantine, Coptic, etc.

They are iin FULL Communion with the Bishop of Rome – but are NOT “Roman” Catholics.
They are:
Melkite Catholics
Maronite Catholics
Ruthenian Catholics
Alexandrian Catholics
Byzantine Catholics
Coptic Catholics - and so on.

They make up the “Catholic Church”. That is the official name since the FIRST Century.

Do your homework . . .

Ok, define "Full Communion."

 

[BreadOfLife]

Ok, define "Full Communion."

I already did.
It refers to doctrinal agreement.

That still doesn't make a Melkite a Roman or Maronite or Byzantine, etc

 

[Taken]

Thank you for that very Catholic belief.
Looks like I'm finally getting through . . .

Are you finished Deflecting...?

Can you NOW get back to showing how your claim of Mary being naturally born "SINLESS",
Is in Scripture?

Even after being Shown she didn't receive the Indwelling Holy Spirit Until After Jesus Returned to Heaven?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

WRONG YOURSELF
Read your own claim!
You said Acts 9:4-5 , Your post; # 712.



Glory to God,
Taken

It is Acts 9:4-5.
What's your point??

 

[reformed1689]

I already did.
It refers to doctrinal agreement.

That still doesn't make a Melkite a Roman or Maronite or Byzantine, etc

Exactly my point. And what is the doctrinal statement that you agree on?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Are you finished Deflecting...?

Can you NOW get back to showing how your claim of Mary being naturally born "SINLESS",
Is in Scripture?

Even after being Shown she didn't receive the Indwelling Holy Spirit Until After Jesus Returned to Heaven?

Glory to God,
Taken

How do YOU know?

Mary was the ONLY person in the history of the world to be impregnated by the Holy Spirit. She was spiritually AND physically indwelt.

The Apostles also received the holy Spirit prior to Pentecost (John 20:21-23).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Exactly my point. And what is the doctrinal statement that you agree on?

???

We agree doctrinally.
What part of that is so difficult for you to understand??

 

[Taken]

It is Acts 9:4-5.
What's your point??

Is that so?

Then WHY did you correct, Acts 9:4-5 To properly read:
Acts 9:45...at the same time you were making a False claim against me for responding to your errounous posting of:
Acts 9: 4-5 ?

You forbid yourself from ever admitting your own error...and falsely try to make others responsible for Your errors.

Catholic Doctrine? LOL.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[reformed1689]

???

We agree doctrinally.
What part of that is so difficult for you to understand??

That's not difficult to understand at all. BUT that must mean there is a specific written doctrine that you all subscribe to. What is it?

 

[epostle]

Just not ROMAN Catholic.

We don't mind if you borrow our title as "catholic", it's in the Creed. The reformers were forced to change the context, by isolating the title apart from the other 3 divine attributes, or characteristics. They are also known as The Four Marks of God of the true Church. By extracting the title from the other three, "catholic" automatically means a description, an adjective, NOT a divine quality. They were built in before the first NT letter was written. The Four are not textual add ons, not adjectives, but inseparable NOUNS.

Changing the language of the Creed was essential for the reformers because they could change it's meaning without changing the text, still call themselves catholic, and still feel justified in breaking from Rome. One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic is the house of God that Paul talks about, the pillar and foundation of truth. It was Catholic at Calvary, whole world - (John 3:16) before St. Ignatius sat spellbound at the foot of the Apostle John. Where was this "house of God" found? Wherever there was a bishop, before and after the text of the New Testament was written.

There are different senses the prefix "Rome or Roman" is used. It can refer to a person, a document, a city, an ethnic group, a rite or centrality of doctrine. Anti-Catholics use it only in the derogatory sense. It's being mean and ugly.

Find out more about the Four Marks of God.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Is that so?

Then WHY did you correct, Acts 9:4-5 To properly read:
Acts 9:45...at the same time you were making a False claim against me for responding to your errounous posting of:
Acts 9: 4-5 ?

You forbid yourself from ever admitting your own error...and falsely try to make others responsible for Your errors.

Catholic Doctrine? LOL.

Glory to God,
Taken

Ummmm, it was a typo.
If I had a dollar for every one of YOUR typos that I let slide, I'd be a rich man.

Besides, Einstein - there is no Acts 9:45 . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

That's not difficult to understand at all. BUT that must mean there is a specific written doctrine that you all subscribe to. What is it?

A doctrine is an official teaching. We agree on the official teachings of Christ's Church.

There are MANY of them.

 

[reformed1689]

A doctrine is an official teaching. We agree on the official teachings of Christ's Church.

There are MANY of them.

So which church is that?

 

[BreadOfLife]

So which church is that?

The Catholic Church.
Do you have a reading problem??

 

[BreadOfLife]

So which church is that?

There is only ONE Church.