NO!
And now I wonder about my family ! They are all gone when I got saved.
[ Pa,,, Ma,,,,,,,,, Brother ........ Sister......... ?
do not know if I will see them ?
The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective
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NO!
And now I wonder about my family ! They are all gone when I got saved.
[ Pa,,, Ma,,,,,,,,, Brother ........ Sister......... ?
do not know if I will see them ?
Nancy
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Good post Taken,
Seems to me that if Mary was born sinless then...did HER mother conceive her in sinlessness?? This could go on and on as, her being born in "sinlessness" had to come from somewhere ... so, then that would make her mother and her mother's mother, and...you get the point... SMH. Mary needed a savior like every single one of us. Yes, she is blessed among woman, and should be honored as such but NEVER prayed to or worshiped!! Yikes! and what woman would not be blessed if they were the chosen vessel to carry Christ Jesus?
its hard to say ..i dont believe you will ever know . i don't see any sadness in heaven . just take care of your self/your walk with Christ .the Good news is he has given us all things 2 peter 1:3 His divine power has given us everything required for life and godliness through the knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. i have family who are catholic .. my mom bro married a catholic girl ,he was baptist she started having health issues in having a family. i was told by my mom she felt God was punishing her marring out side the catholic church so he joined thus on my mom side is catholics . i know just enough to stay away from catholic teaching .the doctrine of mary is not Bible.the doctrine of purgatory is false teaching.. what i gather baptism is a must to be saved . i dont agree with the pope ..i am ordained gen baptist but prefer non denom
psalms 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me. were not born saints the whole mary concept is off bases
Nancy
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Philip James
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Hello Nancy,
Her sinslessness came by the Grace of God, not so that Jesus can 'inherit' sinlessness from her, but that the ark of the new covenant may be pure.
Consider the care in the construction and handling of the ark that bore the word in stone..
Do you think Jesus would take less care in making the ark that would bear the Word made flesh?
Peace be with you!
you better stop before you dig your self deeper with human reasoning ..which what the Bible call being carnal minded.. none of what you just posted is Bible
Philip James
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The ark of the covenant is not bible?
Better get reading and see if these things are so...
Peace!
BOL said, Mary's mother and father conceived her (the usual way), but that Mary was born, sinless!
Obviously BOL is unaware corrupt seeds do not produce an uncorrupted human!
I have heard it does not take long to brainwash an individual, and BOL proclaims himself a "cradle" Catholic...even saying he "received" the Holy Spirit, as a baby, without his knowledge!
It is psychobabble. Catholic Doctrine, which is Not Jesus' Doctrine.
Correct. Scripture reveals God favors, beloves, finds grace IN People who have heard and believe and themselves have grace. And inturn gives grace upon grace. We already know God has chosen many individuals To DO things that no other individual is called to DO. Mary just happen to be one of those individuals.
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Ofcourse. And as well, keeping others in remembrance who DID Specifice and Difficult and Outstanding things in Service to God...
The Catholics don't specifically teach to worship Mary...yet I know Catholics that do. And Catholics Do teach to pray to Mary, Because she is an Intercessory.
Even though In Scripture, that is Jesus' Role.
Blessed among women...
Why are so many Catholic men, clinging to her?
Do they relate to the experience of childbirth or long for an eternal Mommy?
Glory to God,
Taken
what does the ark of cov have to do with mary and your carnaL PHILOSOPHY her being sinless
Nancy
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CharismaticLady
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Great question. The answer is Revelation 22:11
11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.”
I can only speculate you were spiritually abused. It's an educated guess. I'm an ongoing student of psychology and inner healing.
You were a very good child. Good children don't hate their abusive or absent fathers. They grow up and find something else to hate. That way they can stay good.
Growing up in a dysfunctional family and having less than perfect teachers, that's why. Their teaching methods were just as underdeveloped as anywhere else in the '40s and 50's.
I'm happy for you. Spiritual maturity involves taking a fearless moral inventory of ourselves at least twice a year. That means an honest examination of conscience before approaching God. All Christians should do this or risk remaining a spiritual infant. A good Christian cannot be perfect, otherwise only God could be a good Christian.Now going to a bible church, I finally know the truth......... and know that I am saved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know I am going to heaven !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A good Christian examination of conscience can be a great help in making a new start in the life of faith.
We use an examination of conscience to help call to mind our sins and failings during a period of quiet reflection before approaching Our Loving Father.
It's important for a good Christian examination of conscience to be thorough. This will help you to consider what sins you are guilty of and make you aware of sins you might not realize as sins. It's also a chance to develop your conscience. This is a critical aid for any Christian.
To make an examination:
• Set aside some quiet time for reflection. •Start by praying to the Holy Spirit, asking for help in making a good examination to prepare for confession to God.
Remember that a mortal sin is committed when :
1.full Knowledge that the act (thought, word or omission) was contrary to God’s will (sinful) is possessed by the offender;
2. Full Consent (with intentionality; i.e., not forced) is held by the one committing the sin; 3..grave Matter (anything under the Ten Commandments and basic Christian precepts) is the circumstances of the sin. Not to belabor the point, but, there is a difference in grave matter between stealing a pen from work and stealing $10,000 from an orphanage.
If all three conditions are met the sin is known as mortal.
These things are serious because they break our family bond with God. They must be confessed with sincere repentance. It is impossible for children under the age of reason to be in a state of mortal sin.
It is a very good idea to confess venial sins as well, since these sins, like all sin, offend God Who deserves
all of our love..Confessing venial sins helps us to be more sensitive to God and more faithful in our love to
Him. But there is no need to be obsessive about it.
Do not worry! Do not be afraid! Jesus wants you to tell him your sins with honesty and courageousness that he may remove the hurt from your heart and soul. Do not further steep yourself in sin by concealing sins from God and yourself.
It's a good idea to talk to a mature Christian, a pastor, a councillor...someone bound to keep their mouth shut. As Scripture says in James 5, confess your sins to one another. It does not mean confess to sister Big Mouth. Confessing directly to God is easy, but if you mean business with in growing in the Lord, talk to somebody. Taking a fearless moral inventory of ourselves, admitting the exact nature of our wrongs, and making amends are part of a program that has helped millions of drug addicts and alcoholics. Don't we all underestimate it's healing power?
Words can't express the peace we get when we hear the words of absolution spoken by an ordained representative of Christ and His church. It's a beautiful sacrament for Catholics. It deepens and nourishes a truly intimate relationship with Jesus because it is so personal in it's nature and has SUBSTANCE. Going directly to God is fine but it doesn't have substance.
It's like a warm shower for the soul, not a torture chamber the way bitter ex-Catholics describe it.
Luke 15:11-32
Post #1040 has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to say about Purgatory. And you have not quoted a single Scripture which says "Christians will go to a place called Purgatory in order to be purified" (or words to that effect).
Purgatory is not even found in Maccabees. All they talk about is praying for the dead, and that is a Jewish notion which has no basis in the Bible (the Jews had also invented a lot of fictitious nonsense). That is why Maccabees is not in the Bible either (other than Catholic Bibles, which have incorporated the Apocrypha in order to support their false beliefs). But the Apocrypha is a collection of NON-INSPIRED NON-CANONICAL BOOKS.
Philip James
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How do you know that?
While we're on the subject, how do you know the books of the NT are complete? Or if maybe a couple should be removed?
Oh that's right.. Orthodox and catholic communuties preserved and collated them, copied them and distributed them... And agreed in councils of their bishops what did and did not make the cut....
Peace!
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