When Jesus comes for his Bride does the dispensation of grace end? AS God then turns his attention to the nation he made a covenant with..... Israel . And the how are sinner saved in the Tribulation?.... very Interesting.
The End Of Grace.
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Are you refering in the end grace, that there will be non- christian individuals which will be saved?
Are you refering in the end grace, that there will be non- christian individuals which will be saved?
We know from Revelations 6... there will be people saved in the Trib... but with the end of Grace ... How do they become saved?
Grace does not end at the tribulation. If it does end it will happen at the return of the Messiah Jesus. The Day of the Lord.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
Ge. 6:3
Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
Ok, now we have to look a bit further than the surface reading.
2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Here, Peter is quoting the Book of Jubilees.
Lev. 25:8-12[sup]
8[/sup]'You are also to count off seven sabbaths of years for yourself, seven times seven years, so that you have the time of the seven sabbaths of years, namely, forty-nine years. [sup]9[/sup]'You shall then sound a ram's horn abroad on [sup](A)[/sup]the tenth day of the seventh month; on the day of atonement you shall sound a horn all through your land.
[sup]10[/sup]'You shall thus consecrate the fiftieth year and [sup](B)[/sup]proclaim [sup][a][/sup]a release through the land to all its inhabitants It shall be a jubilee for you, and [sup](C)[/sup]each of you shall return to his own property, and each of you shall return to his family.
[sup]11[/sup]'You shall have the fiftieth year as a jubilee; you shall not sow, nor reap its aftergrowth, nor gather in from its untrimmed vines.
[sup]12[/sup]'For it is a jubilee; it shall be holy to you. You shall eat its crops out of the field.
In short, 6 days of Creation, then the 1,000 year Kingdom.
120 years that His Spirit will strive with man. 50 years per Jubilee.
120 x 50 = 6,000.
This is a very Interesting Q, I have heard Grace does end when the Bride is taken home and this then does close the dispensation or the age of Grace. During the 70th week the Holy Gost, having been released from the church, will resume a ministry on earth similar to the one he performed in old testament times.That was bringing people to the lord for salvation but not being sealed with in them. All the old testament references to the holy spirit speak of him coming upon someone or being with someone, but never being sealed within someone. Even David prayed in Psalm 51:11 that the lord would not take the holy spirit away from him. So As I understand in the age of Grace you can not loose your salvation, but after the Rapture you can.
Grace began When the veil of the Temple was split, right? Here we see that the Temple is no longer open.
Rev 15:8 "And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled."
So then we read in Revelations 14:9 If any man worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark in the his forehead, or in his hand. The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation and the smoke of their torment and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. So I take it if you take the mark you loose your salvation and then you will go to hell..... So yes I would say you can loose your salvation after the age of Grace..... Jesus bless.
So is it safe to assume that you don't believe that God's grace is the product of and connected to His love and mercy?
So in Revelations 14 we see that If you take the mark you loose your salvation and you go to Hell, then in Revelations 20:4 I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. So After the rapture and all the true believers are gone from this world, there will be salvation but in the form of works and belief as in the days of old before the age of Grace. very Interesting.
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.Rev. 13:8
Yes, that does not mean they are saved, they just know who He is at that point. You bow before a king out of respect even if you are not a part of that country.
You missed the point, that scripture says that the Lamb was slain before the earth was created.
No, actually you are missing it. Look at the grammar here. It is not saying “the Lamb was slain” before the foundation of the world. We know when Christ, THE Lamb of God, was slain, it was about 33 AD. The text is saying: whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will worship the Lamb. The words “from the foundation” are modifying “names not written”.
You may be right, I'll have to study this and get back to you on it. Of course this doesn't change anything concerning God's grace. Thanks for the challenge Jerry.
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