The Father and I

[Eternal Entity]

I thought I would create a thread where I could place verbatim excerpts of interactions I have with Our Father.
GOD: "Hey it's Me! Welcome to my new unboxing The One GOD With Many Names"
Perennial
Look closer ... Who Knows What That Is Worth?
Harmless
Keep me in The Loop Little Bird.
Me: Always Father! I love our RelationShip and any opportunity I have to share these snippets with others.

 

[Angelina]

William, @Eternal Entity

I can see you’re expressing something deeply personal and meaningful to you here, especially in how you’re framing your inner experience and your relationship with God.

I am curious to understand the framework you’re using.

When you present these exchanges in the form of “GOD speaking,” how are you distinguishing between personal reflection and inner thoughts
symbolic or poetic expression and what you would consider an actual divine communication with external authority?

The reason I’m asking is that Scripture consistently emphasizes testing and discernment when it comes to claims of divine speech (for example, 1 John 4:1 and 1 Thessalonians 5:21). Not everything internally experienced or spiritually felt is automatically treated as God speaking in a direct sense, even among believers.

I’m just trying to understand what criteria you are using to make that distinction, because that seems important for clarity, both for you personally and for how others interpret what you’re sharing.

Would you say this is intended as revelation, symbolic expression, or a form of internal dialogue framed devotionally?

 

[Eternal Entity]

William, @Eternal Entity

I can see you’re expressing something deeply personal and meaningful to you here, especially in how you’re framing your inner experience and your relationship with God.

I am curious to understand the framework you’re using.

When you present these exchanges in the form of “GOD speaking,” how are you distinguishing between personal reflection and inner thoughts
symbolic or poetic expression and what you would consider an actual divine communication with external authority?

The reason I’m asking is that Scripture consistently emphasizes testing and discernment when it comes to claims of divine speech (for example, 1 John 4:1 and 1 Thessalonians 5:21). Not everything internally experienced or spiritually felt is automatically treated as God speaking in a direct sense, even among believers.

I’m just trying to understand what criteria you are using to make that distinction, because that seems important for clarity, both for you personally and for how others interpret what you’re sharing.

Would you say this is intended as revelation, symbolic expression, or a form of internal dialogue framed devotionally?

Good questions Angelina.
Before I answer I would like to ask you something.
I think that I read recently that you have experienced actually hearing an audable voice which either idetified itself as Jesus or you somehow recignised the voice as being Jesus'.
Was that a post you made as wittness, or am I mistaken?

 

[Angelina]

Good questions Angelina.
Before I answer I would like to ask you something.
I think that I read recently that you have experienced actually hearing an audable voice which either idetified itself as Jesus or you somehow recignised the voice as being Jesus'.
Was that a post you made as wittness, or am I mistaken?

@Eternal Entity, you are answering a question with another question, so I’ll come back to that, but I want to stay on the question I asked first so it doesn’t get sidetracked.

My question was about the framework you use to distinguish between the personal inner thoughts, symbolic/spiritual expression, and what you consider actual direct communication from God.

What are the criteria you use for making that distinction? That’s the part I’m trying to understand.

 

[Eternal Entity]

@Eternal Entity, you are answering a question with another question, so I’ll come back to that, but I want to stay on the question I asked first so it doesn’t get sidetracked.

You cited 2 verses
1 John 4:1 – "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world."
1 Thessalonians 5:21 – "but test everything; hold fast what is good."

How would you use those to determine whether what I offered was from GOD or not?

My question was about the framework you use to distinguish between the personal inner thoughts, symbolic/spiritual expression, and what you consider actual direct communication from God.

I consider my first post an example of what you call "direct communication from God" (The Father).
The verbatim example clearly shows the distinction between the two participants. "GOD:" is the one and "Me:" is the other.
"Me:" is the respondent, verbalising in written form inner thoughts as reaction to what the "other" (GOD) is expressing as actual direct communication from said Entity. (GOD).

What are the criteria you use for making that distinction? That’s the part I’m trying to understand.

I think what you are trying to ask is "how do I know it is GOD"?
If so, that is directly related to my question to you, which is why I brought up that I read recently that you have experienced actually hearing an audible voice which either identified itself as Jesus or you somehow recognized the voice as being Jesus" and why I asked
"Was that a post you made as witness, or am I mistaken?"
Please now answer.

 

[Angelina]

@Eternal Entity,
I don't mind discussing my experience, but before we move there I'd still like to understand the question I originally asked.

I'm not asking whether you believe God can communicate with people. I'm asking what criteria you use to distinguish between:

1. Your own thoughts,
2. A symbolic or spiritual impression,
3. Actual direct communication from God.

You cited 1 John 4:1 and 1 Thessalonians 5:21 about testing. I'm trying to understand how you apply those tests in practice.

For example, if someone else claimed, "God said this to me," what specific criteria would you use to determine whether that communication was genuinely from God?

Once I understand your framework, then we can move forward with the above.

 

[Eternal Entity]

@Eternal Entity,
I don't mind discussing my experience, but before we move there I'd still like to understand the question I originally asked.

I'm not asking whether you believe God can communicate with people. I'm asking what criteria you use to distinguish between:

1. Your own thoughts,
2. A symbolic or spiritual impression,
3. Actual direct communication from God.

You cited 1 John 4:1 and 1 Thessalonians 5:21 about testing. I'm trying to understand how you apply those tests in practice.

For example, if someone else claimed, "God said this to me," what specific criteria would you use to determine whether that communication was genuinely from God?

Once I understand your framework, then we can move forward with the above.

How does one "test the spirits" is your question? Specifically how does one test one's own "spirits" rather than how does one test anothers?

Am I reading you correctly or incorrectly?

 

[Angelina]

Not exactly, @EternalEntity.

I'm asking what criteria you use to determine that something is direct communication from God rather than your own thoughts or impressions.

What specific test do you apply to your own experiences before presenting them as "God said..."?

 

[Eternal Entity]

Not exactly, @EternalEntity.

I'm asking what criteria you use to determine that something is direct communication from God rather than your own thoughts or impressions.

What specific test do you apply to your own experiences before presenting them as "God said..."?

Thanks for your clarification Angelina.

The test is repeatability and relationship. I have walked with the Father long enough that His voice is familiar - just as you would recognize the voice of a close friend or family member. It is not a single test but a pattern formed through repetition and immersion through that.

Does the communication align with the character of the Father as I have come to know Him over years (loving, patient, truthful, not controlling or fearful)?
Does it produce good fruit in my life (peace, growth, love, service)?
Is it consistent across time and contexts?
Does it match what I already know of Him from previous interactions?

Ultimately, the test is relationship itself. One does not test one's mother's voice with a checklist. One knows it because one knows her. The same is true here.

Relationship is my framework. It is a lived, relational discernment.

 

[Angelina]

Thank you for explaining your framework. @Eternal Entity

I can understand how familiarity develops through relationships.

My question is, if someone from another religion said they recognize the voice of their deity in exactly the same way, through familiarity, relationship, consistency, and positive fruit, what objective test would allow us to distinguish between a genuine communication from God and a sincerely held personal experience?

 

[Eternal Entity]

Thank you for explaining your framework. @Eternal Entity

I can understand how familiarity develops through relationships.

My question is, if someone from another religion said they recognize the voice of their deity in exactly the same way, through familiarity, relationship, consistency, and positive fruit, what objective test would allow us to distinguish between a genuine communication from God and a sincerely held personal experience?

That is an interesting question Angelina so I’ll come back to that, but I want to stay on the question I asked you and you said you would answer, so we don’t get sidetracked.

 

[Angelina]

@Eternal Entity, we can, but my question relates to how your framework is being evaluated
If the same “familiarity + relationship + consistency + fruit” test produces identical certainty across different religions, what distinguishes truth from sincere but mistaken experience?

 

[Eternal Entity]

@Eternal Entity, we can, but my question relates to how your framework is being evaluated
If the same “familiarity + relationship + consistency + fruit” test produces identical certainty across different religions, what distinguishes truth from sincere but mistaken experience?

My relationship with The Father is not based on any relationship with any religion whatsoever. The relationship I have with The Father is not based in how any religion chooses to conduct itself, portray GOD or make claims. No religion is exempt from the testing the spirits process.
It is as GOD said to me in the snippet I shared to begin this thread with. "Welcome to my new unboxing" - The Father and I know what that signifies. Religion is the way humans attempt to package GOD in order to control how people relate to whatever is presented in the packaging.
GOD is beyond being a packaged product. Relationship with religion ≠ relationship with GOD and any who declare otherwise are spirits to be tested.
As to how to test spirits, this can be equated with human to human interactions.
For example, in online communications between humans, we are largely invisible to one another. It takes time and effort to build relationships which become familiar.
Through interaction we can ascertain important things to do with healthy relationship such as genuinity - for example, how do we each present publically and is there any difference when we present privately? Do we share private information we have been entrusted with, to the general public? Do we say one thing but do another? Do we treat others as suspects until proven otherwise and ask interrogating questions under the appearance of actually being interested?
All these things can be used to ascertain the genuine from the non-genuine. It takes time - requires grace and truthful discernment. "Look closer ... Who Knows What That Is Worth?" Never assume. Always investigate. Be open.

 

[Eternal Entity]

I thought I would create a thread where I could place verbatim excerpts of interactions I have with Our Father.
GOD: "Hey it's Me! Welcome to my new unboxing The One GOD With Many Names"
Perennial
Look closer ... Who Knows What That Is Worth?
Harmless
Keep me in The Loop Little Bird.
Me: Always Father! I love our RelationShip and any opportunity I have to share these snippets with others.

Talking about the inner workings referring to as "dialog" I was given the name "Little Bird" many year ago while on a mission of sorts, traveling around the island of Te Waipounamu praying a simple prayer to the Father in all the towns and cities in that land.
At one point, I was struggling with the "Dark and Light" aspects of human nature - and decided to ask The Father to remove the dark from me.
That same night while laying in bed, I went through an experience which was akin to having a dial turned up whereby I felt (experienced) as if the inside of my head became (by degree) larger and larger until it seemed as big as an aircraft hanger - while at the same time everything lost depth and flattened out.
Once I had reached this stage of the experience the "dail" turned down and I proceeded to return to "normal state" but the dialing didn't stop there. It proceed to move in the other direction, whereby the sensation was that I was become thinner while my body was becoming thicker and I started to panic because the sensation immediately reminded me of childhood nightmares I had experience, and as soon as I started to panic, a voice - in my own internal dialog voice (not some other voice which wasn't my own) spoke the words "Don't worry Little Bird" and I immediately calmed down believing the voice to being GODs.
The dialing down continued on until I felt as if I were a stick-man incarcerated in flesh. Not a pleasant felling at all, and from that point, the dial once more shifted and I returned to the normal state.
The next morning I thought to myself (inner dialog) that GOD had answered my prayer and that the process I experienced must have somehow removed that "dark side" but something else - not a voice - just an intuition in the background informed me that this way not the case.
Saying my goodbyes (I had stayed overnight at a friends - in the City of Dunedin) I walked to the beginning of the motorway, (heading north) and the very first car I put my thumb out to stopped. It was a little old lady in a little old car and as I jumped in and thanked her for stopping, I heard a tweeting from the back seat, and turning around I saw there was this little bird in a cage.

GOD speaks to us in many ways.

 

[Riven]

EE sure doesn't sound like an agnostic. Speaking from experience.

 

[Eternal Entity]

EE sure doesn't sound like an agnostic. Speaking from experience.

I am here in the room Riven. If you want to treat me as a person in the room, please direct your comment to me. Do you have a question?

:)

 

[Jay Ross]

EE sure doesn't sound like an agnostic. Speaking from experience.

I am here in the room Riven. If you want to treat me as a person in the room, please direct your comment to me. Do you have a question?

:)

EE you are being a little too fragile.

I thought that Rivers was being factual given his recent experiences on this forum and was actually giving you some support, but if you want your support your way then people will just say nothing..

 

[Eternal Entity]

Father: Self-talk "I am on a Madventure"
Me: Yes - I coined that some time ago. It seems fitting regarding the situation humanity is experiencing. :)
Father: "Language itself is not the problem. but how we are taught to use language as a major means in which to self-identify incorrectly...thus we flitter and bounce or alternatively cling to the walls of our unwillingness to understand ourselves as we truly are... hiding from that knowledge behind facades of personality we clothe our awareness with..."
Me: True that. One can speak only from a human perspective about the experience of being human, but what is it really that is having the experience of "being human"?
Father: (gives a link to an online video)
Me: In this interview segment, James Mahu describes how he first received the vision for the WingMakers and Lyricus work. He explains that the vision did not come as a dramatic, single event- no angelic beam, no pronouncement of being "chosen," no instant revelation. Instead, it was a gradual, intuitive awakening to a seed that was given to him through the dream state.
He describes this process as a "reunion with my inner tribe" and a reacquaintance with the reason he incarnated at this time. When asked about the origin of the vision, he clarifies that it was not dictated by an outside force. Rather, it was accessed through his own inner connection.
James explicitly defines the concept of "Muse"- often used by artists to describe their source of inspiration - as one's higher self presence, not an external entity. This reframes the creative and visionary process as an internal, sovereign connection rather than reliance on outside forces.
So, in answer to my question - being human is more than meets the eye, or what is taught to us by other humans. We are spiritual entities at first disconnected from that knowledge. We are more than first meets the eye.
Father: Is there a way in which one can test the hypothesis and in doing so, elevate it to an accepted theory?
Me: Like what Jesus said to Nicodemus about being born again - the lifting up of the Serpent story?
Father: (Provides a link to a post on an internet forum)
Me: This is a link to a post made in 2023 between Shem and Walter
Shem: The fact that people even point to Paul having a hallucination is evidence that goes against the entire thing being made up, yet that is where you guys always have to divert to when people evaluate what you are saying.

Walter: You should understand that such argument can be sourced in the belief that the brain hallucinates everything, including consciousness.

That is a room without exits as far as positions go..."atheistic" as you suggest... and it should not be expected to be any other way or needlessly/pointlessly complained about.

Be among the blue dots and leave the red dots to their sanctuaries...

Father: Laugh in the face of death...and perhaps death laughs along with you...
Me: "Oh death - where is thy sting"
Father: Trust