The Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse

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There IS NO "fifth horseman" - only four...

There were 4 horsemen in Zechariah - there were 4 in Revelation - colors not exactly alike.

This is a wide-open eschatological thread wherein the TWO WITNESSES might be Mary Magdalene and Margaret Macdonald - or Enoch and Elijah as certain Early Church Fathers thought
 
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I feel certain ECF named Enoch and Elijah because the OT Tells us those two never died - and the two witnesses GET KILLED - and if Moses was one, that would mean Moses DIED TWICE - which some see as a violation of Hebrews 9:27

actaualy, the miracles that the 2 witnessed do matches Moses and Elijah better - not to mention that Enoch is not a Jew
 

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There IS NO "fifth horseman" - only four...

There were 4 horsemen in Zechariah - there were 4 in Revelation - colors not exactly alike.

This is a wide-open eschatological thread wherein the TWO WITNESSES might be Mary Magdalene and Margaret Macdonald - or Enoch and Elijah as certain Early Church Fathers thought
Maybe they are just Angels who take on the image of man....seems to be a lot of Angelic activity taking place at the appointed time....you know, the Angels at the 4 corners of the earth...the angel that rises up from the depths of the earth to make war....angels pouring out bowls, sounding trumpets, implementing the seals on the earth..
It is possible
 

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We don't really know that much about angels - and some of what we think we know is not biblical. Michael is the only archangel so referred to in the Bible - and Gabriel is not a trumpet player in the Bible - but gained that role in some hymn, and is also erroneously called an archangel.

A verse in Revelation about a third of the stars falling to earth is turned into dogma that a third of the angels became demons.

Jesus says the angels are not given in marriage - and redeemed people will be like that as well in that regard.
 

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We don't really know that much about angels - and some of what we think we know is not biblical. Michael is the only archangel so referred to in the Bible - and Gabriel is not a trumpet player in the Bible - but gained that role in some hymn, and is also erroneously called an archangel.

A verse in Revelation about a third of the stars falling to earth is turned into dogma that a third of the angels became demons.

Jesus says the angels are not given in marriage - and redeemed people will be like that as well in that regard.
well none of do, we all are in the same boat when it comes to the creation of God.

but the also the colors matches in both books Zechariah and Revelation. the bay horse is just another name for the Pale horse.

and as for the two witness... consider John the Baptist, and the Lord Jesus the Christ..... and their witness is still in the earth today... John's ... "Baptism"... and the Lord Jesus ... "The Gospel"... without them... no salvation, " He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned".

as as for DEAD PEOPLE voting.... it was for Trump and Biden, for as long as we're in this body of "DEATH", ... we vote... :eek: YIKES!

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The twelfth horseman of the apocalypse is coming soon...
 
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I'll bet my money on the bob-tail nag, somebody bet on the bay

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JohnDB - you got a lotta hosses lined up
 
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As is told to us in Zechariah 1:8-1 and Zechariah 6:1-8, the Four Horsemen do range over the earth and have done so since ancient times. They represent and maybe have instigated, all the wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters we have experienced.

The proof of this is the Fifth Seal, where the souls of all the people killed for their faith, are kept under the Altar in heaven.

We now await the Sixth Seal, which will be a worldwide disaster of a massive sunstrike from the heavens; a CME that will literally fulfil all the graphic descriptions of the terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath.
 

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I'll bet my money on the bob-tail nag, somebody bet on the bay

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JohnDB - you got a lotta hosses lined up

Well at the races you got to have a choice to put your money on.

And every time there's something happening in the world everyone goes crazy with saying "it's the end of the world".

Bubonic Plague of Europe
Discovery of America
Revolutionary war
Civil war
World war I
Influenza pandemic
WW II
Viet Nam
Korea
Oil Crisis
Cold War
Boston Flu/Swine flu
Desert Sheild
Desert Storm
Afghanistan.

Nevermind the various financial crisis we have had over the centuries...famines too.
 

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What is a CME, Keraz?
A Coronal Mass Ejection, an explosion on the suns surface that if earth directed, can cause serious effects to us. Isaiah 30:26a is the proof scripture for it, but many other prophesies confirm this, as it is the only event that will literally fulfil the 100 + description about the forthcoming Lords Day of wrath.
Google CME for more details and also how scientist's warn about the likelihood of a CME disaster.
 

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And every time there's something happening in the world everyone goes crazy with saying "it's the end of the world".
To the people who died in those and many other disasters; it WAS the end of their world!
But be assured, the Day is coming when the Lord will do another reset of our civilization, as He did in the days of Noah. Matthew 24:37
We ARE the generation who will see it all. Proved by the exact 2000 year periods of God's timing for mankind.
From Adam to Abraham, from Abraham to Jesus, from Jesus to now. Then comes the final 1000 years of the Millennium, making a total of 7000 years of God's Plan for mankind.
 

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The Fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse was an instrumental song on the album "Behold and See" by The Ultimate Spinach