The Five Points of Calvinism

[mjrhealth]

Why do babies die if the wages of sin is death?

Because by one man, death came into this world, and people die, what has that got to do with sin..

 

[Dave L]

And when was the last time you attended each one of their churches?

I don't attend any church regularly. But drop by and spend time fellow-shipping with many different persuasions.

 

[Dave L]

Because by one man, death came into this world, and people die, what has that got to do with sin..

Is God just having babies die for Adam's sin?

 

[mjrhealth]

Is God just having babies die for Adam's sin?

What has babies dying got to do with Adams sin,we die because of corruption that came into this world, God doesnt kill babies,

Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

for a studied man you really have a strange idea about who God is...

 

[Dave L]

What has babies dying got to do with Adams sin,we die because of corruption that came into this world, God doesnt kill babies,

Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

for a studied man you really have a strange idea about who God is...

So, they are left holding the bag and God kills them because the wages of sin is death even if not their fault?

 

[mjrhealth]

So, they are left holding the bag and God kills them because the wages of sin is death even if not their fault?

oy you mean your god, the one with the little g, God doesnt kill babies, you really a a deluded man. God is love, love doesnt go around killing children.

 

[Dave L]

oy you mean your god, the one with the little g, God doesnt kill babies, you really a a deluded man. God is love, love doesnt go around killing children.

It says we all have an appointed time of death.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I don't attend any church regularly. But drop by and spend time fellow-shipping with many different persuasions.

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So.... when was the last time you visited any of those churches and studied their theology for more than a drop-by?

 

[mjrhealth]

It says we all have an appointed time of death.

it also says out time is 70 years yet we have people over 100, we die because our flesh is filled with corruption, but that is only our flesh we live in eternity, those who believe. This is not our home. OF course your willingness to blame God is typical of those who listen to the devil, since they cleary state that God musnt talk to them. So the devil has lots of room to move.

 

[Dave L]

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So.... when was the last time you visited any of those churches and studied their theology for more than a drop-by?

I study every day. And know what each church believes according to their statement of faith.

 

[Dave L]

it also says out time is 70 years yet we have people over 100, we die because our flesh is filled with corruption, but that is only our flesh we live in eternity, those who believe. This is not our home. OF course your willingness to blame God is typical of those who listen to the devil, since they cleary state that God musnt talk to them. So the devil has lots of room to move.

We still do not solve the problem of babies dying because the wages of sin is death.

 

[mjrhealth]

We still do not solve the problem of babies dying because the wages of sin is death.

You are clearly calling God a murderer, so therefore we know who your god is,

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

What is the problem?, do you wist that Hitler and Stalin and all those murders where still alive today. Than you would still complain.

 

[Dave L]

You are clearly calling God a murderer, so therefore we know who your god is,

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

What is the problem?, do you wist that Hitler and Stalin and all those murders where still alive today. Than you would still complain.

God kills sinners and sends them to hell because he is good. He promised death to all who broke the law.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I study every day. And know what each church believes according to their statement of faith.

And yet not actually visited (which is the first part of real studying) a single one?

 

[mjrhealth]

God kills sinners and sends them to hell because he is good. He promised death to all who broke the law.

God Kills sinners, you are still alive, how can a baby sin what are you so foolish. God doesnt send any man to hell, God gave man a choice, men choose to believe or not believe, would you have God go against your will, because He wont. Again you have no idea about who God is, not surprised at all.

2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

 

[Dave L]

And yet not actually visited (which is the first part of real studying) a single one?

Most of what I know came from a broad swath of Christendom. I take the good and let the rest lay. Sometimes traveling over 200 miles one way to catch classes. And routinely traveling 150 miles per week for several months to study theology.

 

[Dave L]

God Kills sinners, you are still alive, how can a baby sin what are you so foolish. God doesnt send any man to hell, God gave man a choice, men choose to believe or not believe, would you have God go against your will, because He wont. Again you have no idea about who God is, not surprised at all.

2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

If you learn the 5 points of Calvinism, you will know these things.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Most of what I know came from a broad swath of Christendom. I take the good and let the rest lay. Sometimes traveling over 200 miles one way to catch classes. And routinely traveling 150 miles per week for several months to study theology.

And when was the last time you drove down the street to attend Catholic Mass and earnestly study Catholicism, as you wish us all to study your Calvinism?

 

[Jay Ross]

I think every person calling themselves a Christian should be familiar with Calvinism. Since it was the backbone of the Reformation. If you disagree with any of it, at least you now understand what the 5 points are. And can discuss them intelligently with any who might inquire of you.

Dave you have too many tickets on how great you are. I see your name and generally pass over your posts because they contain no relatively useful information. You believe that you have achieved your outcome but the reality is that you turn people away because of your arrogance. You do not interact with people on a one on one basis but rather you talk at people. You show no love for Christ and others in your posting style.

Sadly Dave you are a lost cause to reform. In Fact we need another reformation of the church to clean out the errors in our understanding like you but sadly we have the Parable of the tares to consider and as such we have to put up with the likes of you.

 

[mjrhealth]

If you learn the 5 points of Calvinism, you will know these things.

I dont need to know calvinism its just a distraction from Christ in whom it says, Look up for your salvation draws near".

A "Christian" just need know Christ.