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If you love Christ, you want to be with him.It is amazing to me how you guys keep ignoring that a shepherd's sheep *voluntarily* follow him out of love.
Instead you keep trying to make it about force.
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If you love Christ, you want to be with him.It is amazing to me how you guys keep ignoring that a shepherd's sheep *voluntarily* follow him out of love.
Instead you keep trying to make it about force.
If you hate him you want him slaughtered along with his sheepIf you love Christ, you want to be with him.
Either will suffice
I was thinking of the 'methods of persuasion' of so called evangelicals, which sometimes resemble sales pitches more than a presentation of the Sprit-inspired Word, by which God works, with the result that sinners respond to the call of God because of Christ's work.Says he closes the mouths of lions.i believe
KJV is time honoured and basically reliable.Accuracy is important.
Too many people tolerate many errors in the KJV.
It is amazing to me how you guys keep ignoring that a shepherd's sheep *voluntarily* follow him out of love.
Instead you keep trying to make it about force.
Well said.“And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.” (Deuteronomy 30:6) (KJV 1900)
The sheep love God.
It's all indeed a work of our loving, gracious God.Force? Or by giving God the praise for being able to lead something man can not do alone. Why does it have to be man’s right to follow? Rather than God’s right to lead? I’m sorry I just don’t understand this constant fight to keep from saying God is all-powerful. Acts 26:14-16 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. [15] And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. [16] But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
KJV is time honoured and basically reliable.
I was presented a tract this morning wanted to know if I was ready to receive Jesus. Told him that’s up to God!I was thinking of the 'methods of persuasion' of so called evangelicals, which sometimes resemble sales pitches more than a presentation of the Sprit-inspired Word, by which God works, with the result that sinners respond to the call of God because of Christ's work.
I completely believe Psalm 110.3 and Philippians 2.13. God uses His Holy Spirit to testify *every single* person (not just some) and those that *accept* that witness *voluntarily* follow the Good Shepard as His sheep. And through these servant He does wonders.I don't think you are taking Psalm 110.3 to heart. Clearly it is God that makes the person willing by His power. Philippians 2.13: ' it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.'
I do concede that what you seem to believe and what I believe by God's grace are vastly different; there is really no agreement.
I was presented a tract this morning wanted to know if I was ready to receive Jesus. Told him that’s up to God!
Love must be voluntarily given. Affection that is forced is abuse, not real love.If you love Christ, you want to be with him.
Love and following that is voluntarily given.“And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.” (Deuteronomy 30:6) (KJV 1900)
The sheep love God.
“And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.” (Deuteronomy 30:6) (KJV 1900)Love must be voluntarily given. Affection that is forced is abuse, not real love.
Love and following that is voluntarily given.
Because this question ultiamately comes down to the nature of God.Force? Or by giving God the praise for being able to lead something man can not do alone. Why does it have to be man’s right to follow? Rather than God’s right to lead? I’m sorry I just don’t understand this constant fight to keep from saying God is all-powerful. Acts 26:14-16 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. [15] And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. [16] But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
Well I'm glad that you can be blessed by those Scriptures.I completely believe Psalm 110.3 and Philippians 2.13. God uses His Holy Spirit to testify *every single* person (not just some) and those that *accept* that witness *voluntarily* follow the Good Shepard as His sheep. And through these servant He does wonders.
Perfect harmonizing of all these scriptures.
But you still have to ask to find out if he accepts you are not.
kinda like he leads us captive out of captivity. I believe many are unaware of their captivity“And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.” (Deuteronomy 30:6) (KJV 1900)
People naturally hate God and love idols bearing his name. So God gives us a new heart of love for him, for which we are eternally grateful.
Well, I do commend the zeal of the Christian literature distributor; I do question however some of the wording of some commonly distributed evangelistic literature.I was presented a tract this morning wanted to know if I was ready to receive Jesus. Told him that’s up to God!
This thing implies it’s something I can perform at carnal willBut you still have to ask to find out if he accepts you are not.
Yes; the bondage of being dead in sin and unbelief - as Ephesians 2 points out - must be spiritually discerned through God's grace.kinda like he leads us captive out of captivity. I believe many are unaware of their captivity
This thing implies it’s something I can perform at carnal will