The Godless left has a visceral HATRED of Trump for one simple reason - his massive support of Israel

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Ziggy

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You trace back Palestine and you find the Philistines.

Looks like David is still fighting that Battle.
 

Jack

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Ohh Jack you seem to think Noah built an Ark and preached multiple decades just so God could keep people out because he had it in his mind to get rid of them.
What God was right! He's always right, even burning BILLIONS of humans in Hell forever!
I suppose its just like the Good News of the Gospel in your understanding ie, its spread thick and thin all over the World just so God can get his kicks by destroying most of humanity because they didn't see God the way you see him?
Why are you in a Christian forum since you openly admitted you don't believe the Bible???

Luke 17:26-27
26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.
 
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Because the State of Israel created by men, created that State as a PROXY for BRITAIN and AMERICA and the UN to be the CAUSE of WARS in the Middle EAST.
IT WAS BY DESIGN, and not of GOD.

A miracle happened (1948) and with your Scripture knowledge and spiritual insight you missed it ?

What other group of people has survived so many centuries of worldwide dispersion and managed to preserve their ancient culture, their ancient religion and their ancient language? None. What other group of people, after enduring 19 centuries of exile, has been able to return in large numbers to their ancient homeland and even reclaim sovereignty over a significant portion of it? None. Only the Jews. What other group or nation had prophets who said that their people would be exiled and scattered worldwide, and that they would remain a distinct, viable group of people, and that they would one day return to their ancient homeland and reclaim it as their own land? None. Only the Jews.

Jesus will return where?

Israel had to fight 3 wars for its existence against a force majeur of other countries, they won.

How many wars has Israel lost ?

None.

Name one nowadays country who can say the same.

Further reading -> Zach chapters 12-14.
 

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What God was right! He's always right, even burning BILLIONS of humans in Hell forever!
Your continued recalcitrant misrepresentation of God Jack, has a sting in its tail which you would fain run from but then find you cannot.
 

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A miracle happened (1948) and with your Scripture knowledge and spiritual insight you missed it ?

What other group of people has survived so many centuries of worldwide dispersion and managed to preserve their ancient culture, their ancient religion and their ancient language? None. What other group of people, after enduring 19 centuries of exile, has been able to return in large numbers to their ancient homeland and even reclaim sovereignty over a significant portion of it? None. Only the Jews. What other group or nation had prophets who said that their people would be exiled and scattered worldwide, and that they would remain a distinct, viable group of people, and that they would one day return to their ancient homeland and reclaim it as their own land? None. Only the Jews.

Jesus will return where?

Israel had to fight 3 wars for its existence against a force majeur of other countries, they won.

How many wars has Israel lost ?

None.

Name one nowadays country who can say the same.

Further reading -> Zach chapters 12-14.
Israel is Home to stay in the Land of the Bible, their Land!
 

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Your continued recalcitrant misrepresentation of God Jack, has a sting in its tail which you would fain run from but then find you cannot.
Is this what upsets you?

Genesis 7:17-24

17 Now the flood was on the earth forty days. The waters increased and lifted up the ark, and it rose high above the earth.
18 The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered.
20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered.
21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died.
23 So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive.

2 Peter 2:4-6

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
 

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Is this what upsets you?

Genesis 7:17-24

17 Now the flood was on the earth forty days. The waters increased and lifted up the ark, and it rose high above the earth.
18 The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered.
20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered.
21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died.
23 So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive.

2 Peter 2:4-6
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
If only you knew what you are doing!
 

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yeah that was the plan all right .
BREAK DOWN ABSOLUTE TRUTH , f orm it into liquid , think many truth and his truth is his truth and her truth is her eteruth
And all the while you are remolding it into on e big fat solid and absolute LIE they call T RUTH
that all will accept and believe to be is for the good of humanity
NOW for all with eyes to see and ears to hear
THEY BEEN DOING THIS WITHIN THE CHURCHES and FALSE RELIGOINS FOR YEARS .
ONLY I SURE DONT seem to see anyone of them warning out against
THIS ECUMEINICAL ALL INCUSIVE my god is my god your g od is your g od and we all serve the same GOD
FAT LIE . YOU ALL , just like the left have bought a lie .
COMMUNISIM , OR as i should call it ANTI CHRISTISM
claoked as though it be of GOD and be HIS plan
when all along it was the dragon and his plan .
FUNNY you can see it within poltiics but cannot see
IT IN THE ECUMENICALISM which BOTH SIDES DO .
YOU do realize that it was not just politics they had to infiltrate .
THEY HAD TO DO SO in every false religoin as well as in christendom
to recreate another god that all would believe was GOD . WHEN IN TRUTH , its the goal of the one world govt all along .
OR I SHOULD say of satan to prepare the world , its religoins
and the system FOR the BEAST . OH YEAH we been fleeced all right .
AND both sides DO the same ag enda . THEY just pretend they do as they do for yOU and for me .
NO MAM , its all be a sham . a
 

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@ScottA Getting back on track.

So you arbitrarily decided it was just in the eternal word of God--not that we really needed to know--because it is all just "history." That is so short or worldly sighted!

Isn't that what you're doing, arbitrarily applying something John said to Jews today?

Which is "literal", the things of the Kingdom of God, or the things of this world? Time for a renewing of your mind.

If all things be spiritual, then what things be literal? It was prophesied and hinted at in the Old Testament that the Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah, be born of a virgin in the town of Bethlehem, and it was fulfilled literally. Clearly then, not all things in Scripture are meant to be taken spiritually.

Jesus said "It is finished."

In one sense, yes, but not all of it has come to fruition yet and won't until Jesus returns. Just like Satan was defeated at the cross, but he still hasn't been thrown into the lake of fire yet.

As for finishing the transgression--what do you thing Jesus did on the cross?

Jesus provided the means and the way, but there is still a part we need to play. And there are still things that need to play out and a reconciliation that needs to happen with His covenant people.
 

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Isn't that what you're doing, arbitrarily applying something John said to Jews today?
No, context and what is applicable whenever it crops up, is a matter of fulfillment of what is written. History even repeats itself, as men have the same habits, make the same mistakes, and God repeats also as He did with Israel, for every generation, even daily, as the light is divided from the darkness evening and morning.
 
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If all things be spiritual, then what things be literal? It was prophesied and hinted at in the Old Testament that the Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah, be born of a virgin in the town of Bethlehem, and it was fulfilled literally. Clearly then, not all things in Scripture are meant to be taken spiritually.
Your definition of "literal" is worldly. But as it is written, "which is greater?" The kingdom of God is greater and the standard is His, meaning His literal is not worldly as you seem to think what is literal is limited to.

As for what was and is seemingly literal in this world--we ought not think that these would-be literal bodies and things that were created "in the image of" but are passing away--is at all literal, but merely temporal. And have you not considered that Jesus was with the Father (spirit), merely became temporal flesh, then rose to be One again with the Father (spirit) firstfruits of the flesh...--oh, no, I said that wrong--but firstfruits of the Spirit? Think full circle!

But yes, the scriptures do address everything regarding the temporal world, so sure, not everything in the scriptures is to be taken spiritually-- Unless, those things written point to what is spiritual. In which case, you should ask yourself, Does anything in the scriptures actually not point to God who is spirit?
 

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Speaking of drones.

JetBlue flight reports drone strike during approach to New York airport: FAA

Soon and very soon the all out powerful agenda of the inclusive god will BECOME LAW and shall
be enforced upon an entire world and its nations .
AND it will seem as though it be the solution for all the worlds ills
but was really ALL PREPARED for the beast and to give it POWER OVER ALL NA TIONS .
IT RISES MARK . as we speak IT rises and shall take control of it all in the days ahead .
IT WILL enforce the worship of its inclusive god. WHO WAS AND IS THE DRAGON .
only they will ,as they do now , BELIEVE IT TO BE THE LOVE GOD , TO BE GOD . its all A DELUSION mark .
ALL OF IT . AND no man or woman on this site can say they were not warned .
THE blood of none of you are on my hands . I WARNED for years upon years on all sites i went to
TO RETURN To bible , TO RETURN TO JESUS
to get away f rom anything ecumeincal . but it fell on mostly deaf ears . THOUGH some did hear .
THIS WORLD shall reap what it sowed too . THE IRON YOKE COMETH .
 

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Your definition of "literal" is worldly. But as it is written, "which is greater?" The kingdom of God is greater and the standard is His, meaning His literal is not worldly as you seem to think what is literal is limited to.

As for what was and is seemingly literal in this world--we ought not think that these would-be literal bodies and things that were created "in the image of" but are passing away--is at all literal, but merely temporal. And have you not considered that Jesus was with the Father (spirit), merely became temporal flesh, then rose to be One again with the Father (spirit) firstfruits of the flesh...--oh, no, I said that wrong--but firstfruits of the Spirit? Think full circle!

But yes, the scriptures do address everything regarding the temporal world, so sure, not everything in the scriptures is to be taken spiritually-- Unless, those things written point to what is spiritual. In which case, you should ask yourself, Does anything in the scriptures actually not point to God who is spirit?
post one hundred and sixteen is a warning and reminder for us all scott .
THERE IS NO HOLLY WOOD ANTI CHRIST
THERE IS NO HOLLY WOOD BEAST
That which is of anti christ simply grows massive now and the IRON YOKE shall come upon
a world that sowed to the winds of men .
Nothing can stop what is and what is coming . ALL of it was foretold in the scriptures and now it hit its peak hour .
Now man y are going to betray many scott . the worst of it all comes in this late last hour .
AND the beast by means of a poweful AI LED digital system shall IMPOSE
the law of its inclusive god upon all . that inclusive god IS SATAN .
but many will simply beleive it to be the god of love and for peace . THEY GOT LIED TOO scott .
By grace i knew what it was and thus b y grace i always warned to flee it
and have no part in its ecumeincal anti ch rist inclusive movment . BUT scott
The peoples do not listen . only the few know . the rest are going right in to it and see it as god as love
and as his plan for world peace . ITS A DELUSION scott . A LYING spirit was
sent out to all the false prophets within christendom as well as to the false leaders of false religoins
AND IT ALL SOLD TH EM THE SAME LIE . hey we all serving the same GOD . what a lie that one was and is .
NOW they w ho buy that lie are serving the same god . JUST NOT THE GOD .
 

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In one sense, yes, but not all of it has come to fruition yet and won't until Jesus returns. Just like Satan was defeated at the cross, but he still hasn't been thrown into the lake of fire yet.
This is a HUGE topic. But again, I will point out that your perspective is only worldly.

To fully understand requires having a full understanding of time vs. the greater reality of God which is without time. That is not a topic that the world even has a grasp of as yet. I can tell you of it--the truth of it from God, but it would appear you are not ready to hear it. Even so, His world does not return void, and the truth from Him is out already--I have declared it, as it has been given to me by God to do so. Which if you fully accept how God reveals all things, and what His established method is, you might be receptive to it. Are you? Because how God has revealed all truth in the past, is how He continues to reveal the "all truth" as promised by Christ. He never changes.

But I will start with this: What did Paul, speaking words for God, mean when he referred to his being crucified with Christ in past tense? And if Christ is the salvation of all who are children of God, when was (past tense) Israel, if not saved by the Law, crucified with Christ?

I tell you--fully understanding all these things requires the "renewing of your mind." Which is by no coincidence what Paul who "was crucified with Christ" taught as much.

I say again-- Are you even ready for an "all truth" explanation of our transition between worldly and heavenly reality which was to come?
 

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Jesus provided the means and the way, but there is still a part we need to play. And there are still things that need to play out and a reconciliation that needs to happen with His covenant people.
You're getting ahead of yourself. First you need to understand the nature of times vs. the acts of God according to His terms rather than those of this world. Which requires the renewing of your mind.
 

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Soon and very soon the all out powerful agenda of the inclusive god will BECOME LAW and shall
be enforced upon an entire world and its nations .
AND it will seem as though it be the solution for all the worlds ills
but was really ALL PREPARED for the beast and to give it POWER OVER ALL NA TIONS .
IT RISES MARK . as we speak IT rises and shall take control of it all in the days ahead .
IT WILL enforce the worship of its inclusive god. WHO WAS AND IS THE DRAGON .
only they will ,as they do now , BELIEVE IT TO BE THE LOVE GOD , TO BE GOD . its all A DELUSION mark .
ALL OF IT . AND no man or woman on this site can say they were not warned .
THE blood of none of you are on my hands . I WARNED for years upon years on all sites i went to
TO RETURN To bible , TO RETURN TO JESUS
to get away f rom anything ecumeincal . but it fell on mostly deaf ears . THOUGH some did hear .
THIS WORLD shall reap what it sowed too . THE IRON YOKE COMETH .
post one hundred and sixteen is a warning and reminder for us all scott .
THERE IS NO HOLLY WOOD ANTI CHRIST
THERE IS NO HOLLY WOOD BEAST
That which is of anti christ simply grows massive now and the IRON YOKE shall come upon
a world that sowed to the winds of men .
Nothing can stop what is and what is coming . ALL of it was foretold in the scriptures and now it hit its peak hour .
Now man y are going to betray many scott . the worst of it all comes in this late last hour .
AND the beast by means of a poweful AI LED digital system shall IMPOSE
the law of its inclusive god upon all . that inclusive god IS SATAN .
but many will simply beleive it to be the god of love and for peace . THEY GOT LIED TOO scott .
By grace i knew what it was and thus b y grace i always warned to flee it
and have no part in its ecumeincal anti ch rist inclusive movment . BUT scott
The peoples do not listen . only the few know . the rest are going right in to it and see it as god as love
and as his plan for world peace . ITS A DELUSION scott . A LYING spirit was
sent out to all the false prophets within christendom as well as to the false leaders of false religoins
AND IT ALL SOLD TH EM THE SAME LIE . hey we all serving the same GOD . what a lie that one was and is .
NOW they w ho buy that lie are serving the same god . JUST NOT THE GOD .
Why do you persecute me?

It is written, "That they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me." Indeed there is a counterfeit version, but also a true version, each having their own fighting forces--which you ought not confuse as being the same. Evil men have their parallel version hidden in sheep's clothing and are easily mistaken, but the sheep still work under the true Shepherd and dress as they ought to dress. Do you know the heart of every man? I tell you just as there are Tares among the Wheat, there are also Wheat among the Tare. Therefore, every arrow, every shot risks hitting a lamb of God--be very careful!
 
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