THE INCARNATION of GOD

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lforrest

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You understand the meaning of "Debate."

True or false?
 

SpiritandTruth

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lforrest said:
You understand the meaning of "Debate."

True or false?
true
The Spirit of God is God in the flesh.
The Spirit of God has entered in and possessed my flesh.

And infused it'self with my soul. My soul and the Spirit of God are one.
 

SpiritandTruth

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How can anyone believe that the Holy Ghost is a person?

The Holy Ghost dwells within a person.

True or false?

Let's take it from the beginning.

In the beginning was the Word

QUESTION 1

In the beginning of "What"?

In the beginning of "What" was the Word.

and the Word was with God,

QUESTION 2

At this exact point in time, was the Word, God?

Yes or no?

and the Word was God.

QUESTION 3

Was the Word with God before it became God?

Yes or no?

QUESTION 4

Was the Word always God?

Yes or no?

The same was in the beginning with God.

QUESTION 5

What is the "same" in the beginning of "what" with God?
 

Groundzero

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False:

Incarnation: a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or quality

Jesus was the incarnation of the eternal God.
Col 2:9 For in him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead BODILY.
 

StarTemple

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My opinion. Using Christ as the pattern.

Begotten and "incarnation" are different in meaning. Demons and angels have incarnated, imo, it is not the same thing as being born into human flesh. To provide "human" sacrifice requires a human being. Christ would have to be human being to bridge the gap now present between sinful man and God. To me Christ is a born being in perfect human flesh, the "last Adam" to bridge said gap, and is thus begotten from God, not incarnation in the sense of angelic materialization. It was a real conception spoken of in Luke 1, Mary was not a "surrogate" mother, she was part of the genetic basis of Christ, overridden by holy spirit to provide a perfect human for that sacrifice.

That is my opinion while taking the logic of the real nature of the human dilemma a little further in the process as provided in the Bible record. Imo the Adamic species has limited days individually and as a whole, and that is why this Christ "bridge" is provided for human beings in that Adamic form. The bridge was human, real human imo, the continuance is in the spirit.


(1 Corinthians 15:45) Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

So to one must be "born again", not "incarnated". And in time that becomes very literal not just by spirit. The Adamic shell has to be left behind.
 

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SpiritandTruth said:
Any person who embodies in the flesh the Spirit of God
is the incarnation of God?

True or false?
False.

Only Jesus of Nazareth is the Eternal Word of God mad flesh and eternally God from "in the beginning." Only He was God by nature while all of mankind are creatures by nature.

Jesus was the first of the race of God-bearing humans and all believers are indwelt with the real presence of God making them adopted sons and daughters who are also God-bearing humans. But we are still creatures by nature.

You have taken too liberal a definition of "incarnation." In the Biblical sense, the word can only refer to Jesus.
 

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SpiritandTruth said:
How can anyone believe that the Holy Ghost is a person?
In truth!

SpiritandTruth said:
The Holy Ghost dwells within a person.

True or false?
Just as our flesh is formed of our progenitor, neither the progenitor of your flesh live inside you anymore than the procreators of your soul live inside you.

SpiritandTruth said:
Let's take it from the beginning.

In the beginning was the Word

QUESTION 1

In the beginning of "What"?

In the beginning of "What" was the Word.

and the Word was with God,
In the beginning of the animation of this body of space we call the Universe. If you will read the verse carefully, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God.

Hence, from the body of eternal Light, being (E) the body of Light that forms our expanse of space was separated/released from its procreator. (c2)
Which is to say as written in the scriptures, as the Father hath life in himself, he gave his Son to hath life in himself.
However a finite body of Light in and of itself is inert, or inanimate.
And as told in the Gospel, we are the procreation of the procreator and He is the procreation of the procreator. Thus, t is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
And therein, Genesis 1:1 begins as the inanimate body of Light [c2] thence became a animated body [(c>)(c<)]
Thus in Genesis 1:1, the Elohim or Gods that created the heaven and the earth are in the and the Spirit (c>) and Word (c<)


SpiritandTruth said:
QUESTION 2

At this exact point in time, was the Word, God?

Yes or no?

and the Word was God.
At what time was the Word Light- when (c2) became [(c>)(c<)]

Was the Word was Light. YES

SpiritandTruth said:
QUESTION 3

Was the Word with God before it became God?

Yes or no?
Yes, (c2) the Word was with the Light before it became a Light unto it's own as (c<)

SpiritandTruth said:
QUESTION 4

Was the Word always God?

Yes or no?

The same was in the beginning with God.
Yes, the Word was always Light

SpiritandTruth said:
QUESTION 5

What is the "same" in the beginning of "what" with God?
The Word came from the Spirit as the Spirit came from the eternal body of Light.


So in conclusion, man [male and female] are the children of God-the Father, who is the God -the Son, that is God-the Holy Ghost.
And in Genesis 1, the Gods (Spirit and Word) who said "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness." male and female talking spirits.
As in Genesis 2, after the procreation of men upon the earth they are denoted as the LORD God.
And following Genesis 3, as the man and his wife shall be one flesh in childbirth, the LORD God become one LORD as the Spirit and the Word became one Light, the Holy Ghost,