The Jesuits ... What is their role? Part 1 and 2

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mjrhealth

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Sounds like yet another false SDA prophesy. This is what I think will happen: Your little sect will eventually fade away and disappear beneath the waves of history, proving that the SDA church was phony and not of God.
Sam e will be said of all mens Religions, the Great Harlot church and all her daughters trying to replace Christs Bride, but she cant see her ugliness all covered up in makeup. Scarlet and purple.
 

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So, your criteria for identifying the true Church is that its members must be perfect and sinless. How is your search going - have you found the true Church yet?

The fact that the Catholic Church contains sinners doesn’t prove that she is a false Church.
I never had a real problem with the Popes until Pope Francis came along.

The problem with all the Churches is that they have abandoned Jesus Christ for Socialism.

The faithful to Jesus Christ can be found anywhere, also the people who blindly follow along with any Church without questioning such are about in droves as always and ignorant as ever sprouting their worldly works.

I would come to the RCC School that my children went to and it has the biggest Church in the City mind you, and I got about over them years and all I came across was lukewarm Christians at best to down right Socialist everywhere, not to mention the last 2 years of my youngest child the Principle of the school did not come from a Christian upbringing and said to me that she was learning from the new Priest who came, who is such an appalling moron that if the congregation truly knew the Doctrines of the RCC he would of been grabbed and tossed out on the street.
I had a few kind words to that stupid 3rd rate priest and he did not like it at all, because I exposed his peddling, he is just some sort of social worker at best and could never lead anyone to Christ Jesus. because he did not know who Jesus Christ truly is, he is not born again. he is a religious clown at best.
I never had a problem with all the other RCC Priest their, sure they were not on fire for Christ but I did have some respect for them.

I never asked for anyone to be as you claim perfect and sinless, that's just a typical atheist perception that you have just brought up. but then again the RCC nowadays peddles the line of it being a Church of Saints and Sinners, somehow as if it's favouring the sinners line a bit to far, or with glee I would think and that's a Sin.

I claim that the Catholic Church is the true Church, but it's clearly not the RCC or any denomination nowadays, because they clearly do not preach Christ Jesus first and foremost in their lives, being the wellspring that all must drink from. outside of that is only mans works, that's nothing but of filthy rags !
 

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Reggie's anti-Catholic hate speech is as evil as racism but with a different face. He opposes all churches except his privatized version, a "pope" in a church of one. His post has been reported but nothing will happen.
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Anti-Catholicism is a tradition of men.
I am not anti-Catholic at all ! when you understand what Catholic truly means.

The RCC is under attack from within more so than ever, Pope Francis is a Satanist for sure and the real rot set in to the RCC with Vatican 2, many RC exposed Vatican 2 for what it was at it's conception because it took on a worldly concept above the Holy Spirit.

Racism ? show me in the Bible that such is a Sin ! such does not at all.

Racism today has only become a sin now that was created by Marxist Socialist engineering, to dupe simple minded people.

Racial Prejudice is a Sin of ignorance or stupidity and brainwashed fools nowadays do not understand the difference is vast between a racial concept of understanding and what Prejudice is. I am amassed at how stupid people are nowadays, they think that anything racial is prejudice, such has been socially engineered Marxism peddled in our Schools and media for years, that now you have young people who do not understand the difference at all. because they are brainwashed that all people are equal, the only place that one will see something representing equality is with Slaves.
Cultural Marxism works to enslave all to become just a Number and nothing but a Slave to Satan's works of man made madness in total ignorance of God and it's a total bastard society of thugs and depraved morons.

Something Racial when put under the spotlight only proves facts of such, it's not a sin to expose the truth about what come to light.
If one was to say that their is a difference between one race 'Nation' and another nowadays, but nowadays I am not surprised that some belligerent blighted brainwashed foolish clown will have a tantrum over such things being exposed, because such people love the darkness and hate the light of truth that exposed the shadows that carnal do not want exposed.

Jesus Christ was under attack (Charge) for hate speech as well back in the day fool, they did not like him at all because he was exposing the truth and they were just like our Governments of today, corrupt as they come in fact and piddling in every ones ear nonsense to lead them astray from the truth.
 

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My position is “arrogant”? Use must be confusing me with someone else - all I did was ask you a very reasonable question ... which you ignored. So let’s try again: Eph 1:22-23 says the Church is the “fullness” of Christ - where does the Bible say the Bible is the “fullness” of Christ?

If the Church is the “fullness” of Christ, and the Bible isn’t, doesn’t that mean the Church should be your guide, and not the Bible … much less, your personal interpretation of the Bible?

Why do you try to trap me with your assumptions?
God's Church consists of those who hear God's Commandments and obey them.

God's Church does not consist of those calling themselves God's Church because they have regard for traditions which violate God's Commandments.
 
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I never had a real problem with the Popes until Pope Francis came along.

The problem with all the Churches is that they have abandoned Jesus Christ for Socialism.

The faithful to Jesus Christ can be found anywhere, also the people who blindly follow along with any Church without questioning such are about in droves as always and ignorant as ever sprouting their worldly works.

I would come to the RCC School that my children went to and it has the biggest Church in the City mind you, and I got about over them years and all I came across was lukewarm Christians at best to down right Socialist everywhere, not to mention the last 2 years of my youngest child the Principle of the school did not come from a Christian upbringing and said to me that she was learning from the new Priest who came, who is such an appalling moron that if the congregation truly knew the Doctrines of the RCC he would of been grabbed and tossed out on the street.
I had a few kind words to that stupid 3rd rate priest and he did not like it at all, because I exposed his peddling, he is just some sort of social worker at best and could never lead anyone to Christ Jesus. because he did not know who Jesus Christ truly is, he is not born again. he is a religious clown at best.
I never had a problem with all the other RCC Priest their, sure they were not on fire for Christ but I did have some respect for them.

I never asked for anyone to be as you claim perfect and sinless, that's just a typical atheist perception that you have just brought up. but then again the RCC nowadays peddles the line of it being a Church of Saints and Sinners, somehow as if it's favouring the sinners line a bit to far, or with glee I would think and that's a Sin.

I claim that the Catholic Church is the true Church, but it's clearly not the RCC or any denomination nowadays, because they clearly do not preach Christ Jesus first and foremost in their lives, being the wellspring that all must drink from. outside of that is only mans works, that's nothing but of filthy rags !
Believe me, a lot of Catholics are unhappy with Pope Francis. However, he is still Infallible (according to Catholic doctrine).

After Vatican II, the Catholic clergy in general took a huge turn to the Left politically, so mainstream Catholicism is now riddled with Socialists/cultural Marxists masquerading as Christians. They've sold out to the spirit of the world, but they don't fool me.

None of the sexual or intellectual corruption in the CC proves that she is a false Church - I suspect we are witnessing the "great apostasy" foretold in 2Thess 2:3 that must occur before the return of Christ.
 
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Why do you try to trap me with your assumptions?
God's Church consists of those who hear God's Commandments and obey them.

God's Church does not consist of those calling themselves God's Church because they have regard for traditions which violate God's Commandments.
You changed the subject, but ignored my question. So let's try again:

Eph 1:22-23 says the Church is the “fullness” of Christ - but nowhere does the Bible say the Bible is the “fullness” of Christ".
That being so, if the Church is the “fullness” of Christ, and the Bible isn’t, doesn’t that mean the Church should be your primary guide to Christianity, and not the Bible?

As for me, my primary guide to Christianity is the infallible Catholic Church, not my personal interpretation of the Bible.
 
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You changed the subject, but ignored my question. So let's try again:

Eph 1:22-23 says the Church is the “fullness” of Christ - but nowhere does the Bible say the Bible is the “fullness” of Christ".
That being so, if the Church is the “fullness” of Christ, and the Bible isn’t, doesn’t that mean the Church should be your primary guide to Christianity, and not the Bible?

As for me, my primary guide to Christianity is the infallible Catholic Church, not my personal interpretation of the Bible.
The question was not ignored RogerDC; it's that you can't hear the answer.
 

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Why do you try to trap me with your assumptions?
God's Church consists of those who hear God's Commandments and obey them.

God's Church does not consist of those calling themselves God's Church because they have regard for traditions which violate God's Commandments.
No it is those who know follow and believe Him.
 

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Believe me, a lot of Catholics are unhappy with Pope Francis. However, he is still Infallible (according to Catholic doctrine).

After Vatican II, the Catholic clergy in general took a huge turn to the Left politically, so mainstream Catholicism is now riddled with Socialists/cultural Marxists masquerading as Christians. They've sold out to the spirit of the world, but they don't fool me.

None of the sexual or intellectual corruption in the CC proves that she is a false Church - I suspect we are witnessing the "great apostasy" foretold in 2Thess 2:3 that must occur before the return of Christ.
Yes the infallibility doctrine is not as most protestants insist claim it to be. the Pope has to clarify himself as to such things, but this one does not bother, within the top ranks of the RCC have expressed that this clown does not bother to clarify in detail what he truly is on about. I would say that if he did do such, he would be kicked out.

All the child molesters are Satanist within any denomination are not of the Catholic Church (Kingdom of God), they are of this world, you will know them by their works.

I agree it must be so, I looks as tho we are witnessing the great apostasy foretold as you said.

I believe that a group within the RCC were in bed with the creation of the State that's claiming to be Israel nowadays, we see that this mob were in bed with the Zionist and their Nazi mates, it just so happens that the Pope at the time happened to die is interesting before signing a big deal.
Then the Satanic Zionist Vatican 2 starts it's influence slowly with great stealth, but many a true RCC call them out on this path.
We had Pope J P 2 rejecting the State of Israel, this was on TV media for years, as the TV media always had so un educated dolt ranting and raving claiming that Pope J P 2 did not have a clue as to the subject. a un educated atheist News jock demanding that they knew better than Pope J P 2 :rolleyes: on the subject o_O.
All TV media News reporters are just no body monkeys only reporting what their boss peddles them to say, they do not have the brain capacity to understand all the issues at hand, they are not professors on the subjects that they rattle on about at all, so you get some dick weed ranting and raving on a subject that they have no in depth understanding about, but just sprouting from a dolts view point and then you have all the rest of the people who have very little interest in the subject becoming brainwashed and as the months go on, this media bug gets in the ear of the masses and they come to believe the media is correct, because they can vision what the media is touting, but they do not care for the subject enough to bother to look into the subject beyond the media tripe.
So you will have some dolt get up and start ranting at me telling me what the subject is:rolleyes:. but the fact is that is not the subject at all, but they are not willing to listen to me because they will look to the majority, so it's like, well their is 100's of us who are all on the same page and I am the one out of line on their page. so they in their ignorance will not bother to listen to the reality, so the Cunning of the boss who control the media monkeys come across as the epitome of all education, so if you want to become a professor nowadays all you have to do is listen to the media, as they will put all on the path enlighten. don't go against media or they will use every trick in the book to come at you with and the fickle masses will sit by the TV blindly swallowing their degenerate masters that they idolise.
 

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If believing Him is all that is necessary, why are “the saints” described as “those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus” (Rev 14:12)?
Love how many time do you need to be told, its really simple, and no one keeps the commandments of God all those who claim they do are liars, and teh reason you dont know is because you would rather your religion and its leaders than the truth that is Christ. No one seem to desire Him...
 

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Love how many time do you need to be told, its really simple, and no one keeps the commandments of God all those who claim they do are liars, and teh reason you dont know is because you would rather your religion and its leaders than the truth that is Christ. No one seem to desire Him...
Rev 14:12 clearly says the "saints" are "those who keep the commandments of God". Keeping the commandments of God is WORKS, so you're faith alone doctrine is false.
 

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Rev 14:12 clearly says the "saints" are "those who keep the commandments of God". Keeping the commandments of God is WORKS, so you're faith alone doctrine is false.

He said to him, "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.


This is the greatest and the first commandment.

The second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."


Peace be with you!

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!
 

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Correct. Yet clueless Pope Francis is telling the media to help people distinguish good from evil!

Pope: Media should help people 'distinguish good from evil'

Pope: Media should help people 'distinguish good from evil' - WND

That's like asking the fox to make a case for annihilating the hen house.
Peter Viereck of Yale university describes anti-Catholic bigotry as "the anti-Semitism of liberals" while Arthur M. Schlesinger Sr. once described it as "the deepest bias in the history of the American people."

Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

Which is exactly what Enoch111 has done. Bigotry and bias is well represented in this board. No rational exchange of ideas, just insults and flaming zingers. That the media wallows in dirt is a well known fact.
 
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God's Church does not consist of those calling themselves God's Church because they have regard for traditions which violate God's Commandments.
Funny - I keep hearing about these traditions that "violate" God's Commandments - but I never see any listed.

Can you give me some examples?
Take your time . . .
 

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Which is exactly what Enoch111 has done. Bigotry and bias is well represented in this board.
Do you sincerely believe that the lying, treasonous media -- the mainstream media -- have any desire to identify themselves as enemies of America, and expose all the other evildoers?

This clueless Pope Francis is not only a fraudulent pope, but he is a committed Jesuit Marxist who accepted Liberation Theology, and now is committed to Globalism and the New World Order. Why did Pope Francis even make such an inane comment unless he is clueless? There are quite a few Catholics who see this Jesuit pope as a travesty and reject him. So don't talk about anti-Catholic bias, when *good* Catholics see him as a traitor.
 
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Funny - I keep hearing about these traditions that "violate" God's Commandments - but I never see any listed.

Can you give me some examples?
Take your time . . .
The crown jewel of the RCC, the first day of the week (Sunday) sacredness replacing the the explicit command of the fourth Commandment that it is the seventh day which is to be remembered.
 

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Love how many time do you need to be told, its really simple, and no one keeps the commandments of God all those who claim they do are liars, and teh reason you dont know is because you would rather your religion and its leaders than the truth that is Christ. No one seem to desire Him...
Loving your neighbour is WORKS. We are not saved by faith alone, but by faith and works (James 2:24).

“Strive for … the holiness without which no one will see the Lord” (Heb 12:14).

“He who through faith is righteous shall live” (Romans 1:17).

“They profess to know God, by they deny Him by their deeds, they are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good deed” (Titus 1:16).