The lies about gen 6
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Exactly,--the sons of Seth.
Now if it were fallen angels why isn't it going on now?
The Kind thing is a physical thing. Reproduction cannot occur between different kinds.
Kind refers to family in biology.
A horse cannot mate with a dog and reproduce. They are different kinds.
Bob Estey
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Exactly. And these passages describe precisely what the sins of those angels who fell (kept not their first estate) were. Verse 7 says, "in like manner" meaning, in the same way. They gave themselves to fornication and went after strange flesh. So it doesn't matter that they have a different flesh. Angels went after flesh that was unlike their own.
And married people aren't the only ones who have sex. Just because angels in heaven don't marry doesn't mean they can't have sex. People demonstrate that all the time. Adam and Eve never had a marriage ceremony. In a perfect world, obviously, marriage ceremonies aren't needed. But they were one flesh nonetheless.
It is going on today. I have been a witness to fallen angels as well as nephilim (in physical form) at high level rituals I was subjected to as a child. I have also seen human-animal hybrids.
Satan.
If you are going where I think you are going with this, if he possessed a snake, and the snake got another snake pregnant that they wouldn't have little satan snakes. On the other hand, if he appeared to become a snake (the only thing we really have in scripture is that he can appear as an angel of light) his, umm, "utilities" wouldn't be operable. We know not even know if he has utilities. If he possessed a man, which has been known to happen, then that man could certainly reproduce. That is not what we are talking about here.
Angels cannot create human DNA, only God can.
If you are going where I think you are going with this, if he possessed a snake, and the snake got another snake pregnant that they wouldn't have little satan snakes. On the other hand, if he appeared to become a snake (the only thing we really have in scripture is that he can appear as an angel of light) his, umm, "utilities" wouldn't be operable. We know not even know if he has utilities. If he possessed a man, which has been known to happen, then that man could certainly reproduce. That is not what we are talking about here.
Angels cannot create human DNA, only God can.
Oceanprayers
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The Benai-Elohim. And the offspring that resulted from their mating with human women were the fallen ones, Nephilim.
Where is the scripture that says they cannot reproduce? That is an assumption. And yet, NT scripture speaks exactly of what their sin was. They left their first estate, they fornicated and went after strange flesh.
No one is claiming satan creates DNA.
Here is what I'm getting at...
God Himself spoke to satan and said...
Genesis 3:15
[15]And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
How can satan have a seed unless he can reproduce?? The scripture is consistent. The seed of the woman is Christ. The seed of satan is antichrist. This is literal, not figurative.
When the angels fell, they left their first estate (speaking of their heavenly bodies). They took on the form (appearance) of human flesh. Think they cannot do this? Read the scripture.
Hebrews 13:2
[2]Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
And there are examples of angels appearing in human form many times throughout scripture.
And where is the scripture that says they can? Nowhere. That is an assumption too.
They are a different KIND. they are a different creation. God made the reproduction after its own kind. It is God's pattern.
Jude 6 I read as different sets
1. Judgement of Angels
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
2.Human Judgement
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Present Humans actions to be judged
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
They are a different KIND. they are a different creation. God made the reproduction after its own kind. It is God's pattern.
Jude 6 I read as different sets
1. Judgement of Angels
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
2.Human Judgement
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Present Humans actions to be judged
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
So Seth was led of God to marry ungodly women and create giants/nephilim which led to God sending the flood, huh?
It's not an assumption at all. GOD said (Genesis 3:15) that satan would have seed. That requires reproduction. It doesn't happen any other way. Seed in the Bible refers to a product of one's body that becomes offspring.
JohnPaul
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God set many things in place, but that doesn't mean that both fallen men and fallen angels haven't perverted and veered from God's ways.
God sent the Flood because the entire world with the exception of Noah, was unrighteous. Man became worse and worse. Look at Cain--right off the bat, and he had to leave because of sin.
Gen 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Are you all-knowing?? Have you been and seen the entire world throughout the ages to say of a certainty there are no more nephilim? Jesus said that in the last days, it would be "as the days of Noah were."
From what I've seen, we are in the last days. I've seen them with my own eyes, as have many survivors of satanic ritual abuse and MK Ultra.
That doesn't disprove anything. Again, if Seth was led of God, how did his seed populate the earth with nephilim giants?? It makes no sense whatsoever. That would also indicate that all men ("sons of God") were godly and all women ("daughters of men") were evil. And where were the sons of men and the daughters of God?? Lol By that logic, what kind of children would they produce? And why didn't God mention that? And why in the world wouldn't godly men (so-called" sons of God") marry the daughters of God?? Being led of God, that would be the obvious choice.
Who said I was all knowing? Why do you have to come after me like that? We can stop now if you don't want to discuss this. I got other stuff I can do. I have every right to put in what i believe as you do. It is not necessary to cut on me. I don't need it. This is supposed to be a discussion, not a yelling match.
I just believe they are righteous people mixed with the unrighteous. Those that love the Lord marrying non believers. And the result is the falling away.
Because many of his seed married the daughters of men--not all of them, for we see Noah and his wife. I don't recall anything about the sons of men and daughters of God mentioned in the Bible. Usu in the Bible the line comes through men.
Line of Seth Seth,Enosh,Kenan,Mahalalel,Jared,Enoch,Methuselah,Lamech,Noah
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