The meaning of 666 and its identity

[Jim C]

The meaning of 666 and its identity​

666 = Man Man Man.....ahhhhh, which Man, which Men? Is it singular or collective? Why not both? Why not collective consciousness (individually and historically) which glorifies self with a (singular) Man as representative of the collective?

The literal Greek translates as 600+60+6.

 

[Jim C]

Babylon in Revelation is a reference to the Roman empire and 666 is the numerical value of Nero Ceasar.

That is the general consensus and makes the most sence.

Maybe... but only if you completely ignore the 7 Seals, trumpets and bowls; Armageddon; Christ's Millenial kingdom; Satan's final Rebellion; God torching Satan's army outside Jerusalem; and not least of all, Judgment and 'Heaven and Earth fleeing, for no place was found for them'.

 

[Zachariah.]

Maybe... but only if you completely ignore the 7 Seals, trumpets and bowls; Armageddon; Christ's Millenial kingdom; Satan's final Rebellion; God torching Satan's army outside Jerusalem; and not least of all, Judgment and 'Heaven and Earth fleeing, for no place was found for them'.

No need to ignore anything, rather we use them all in correlation. Hence we are left with the underlying force of totalitarian control which manifests or incarnate's itself through man.

 

[Jack]

Not according to the Bible . . .

The Angel's greeting to Mary was very revealing.
The Greek word is "Kecharitomene" that Luke used in his Gospel (v.1:28), which is the perfect passive participle, indicates a completed action with a permanent result. Thus it translates, “completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace.”

Kecharitomene is not a mere description here. It is used as a title – a name.
The Angel didn’t say, “Hail Mary, full of grace.” He said, "Hail, Kecharitomene.”

Whereas we are BEING sanctified throughout our life - Mary was already fully-sanctified. And whereas, it was Jesus who saved here - God chose to save her at conception.

NOWHERE in the Bible does it say or imply that Mary was sinless. ONLY Jesus is sinless.

 

[Zachariah.]

NOWHERE in the Bible does it say or imply that Mary was sinless. ONLY Jesus is sinless.

The words pure, virgin, and sinless all mean the same thing in a biblical context.

 

[Jack]

The words pure, virgin, and sinless all mean the same thing in a biblical context.

No they don't. lol Mary is not God. Jesus is. Mary is not the Savior. Jesus is.

1 Peter 2:21-22
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth";

 

[Stumpmaster]

The literal Greek translates as 600+60+6.

Makes a cool triangle
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[quietthinker]

Makes a cool triangle
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it is a triangle....an unholy one.....the dragon, the beast and the false prophet.

 

[Jack]

The Mark of the Beast is coming. NOTHING can stop it.

 

[Zachariah.]

No they don't. lol Mary is not God. Jesus is. Mary is not the Savior. Jesus is.

1 Peter 2:21-22
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth";

Being sinless and being the savior are two completely different things.

Mary is considered sinless. And Jesus is considered both sinless and the savior.

Jesus is only sinless BECAUSE he come from Mary who was sinless.

If Mary was not sinless then Jesus wouldn't be sinless as he would have come from sin.

 

[Zachariah.]

The Mark of the Beast is coming. NOTHING can stop it.

It's here if you haven't noticed.

 

[Stumpmaster]

it is a triangle....an unholy one.....the dragon, the beast and the false prophet.

666 is a triangular number. Calculations were made using pebbles. Starting with 1 pebble and adding one more in each successive row eventually leads to a total of 666 pebbles at the end of row 36. You can understand why the ancient Babylonians developed a "wisdom" around numbers that delighted them in this way.

Rev 13:18 HereG5602 isG2076 wisdom.G4678 Let him that hathG2192 understandingG3563 countG5585 theG3588 numberG706 of theG3588 beast:G2342 forG1063 it isG2076 the numberG706 of a man;G444 andG2532 hisG848 numberG706 is Six hundred threescore and six.G5516


Strong G5585
ψηφίζω
psēphizō
psay-fid'-zo
From G5586; to use pebbles in enumeration, that is, (genitive case) to compute: - count.
Total KJV occurrences: 2

 

[quietthinker]

666 is a triangular number. Calculations were made using pebbles. Starting with 1 pebble and adding one more in each successive row eventually leads to a total of 666 pebbles at the end of row 36. You can understand why the ancient Babylonians developed a "wisdom" around numbers that delighted them in this way.

Rev 13:18 HereG5602 isG2076 wisdom.G4678 Let him that hathG2192 understandingG3563 countG5585 theG3588 numberG706 of theG3588 beast:G2342 forG1063 it isG2076 the numberG706 of a man;G444 andG2532 hisG848 numberG706 is Six hundred threescore and six.G5516


Strong G5585
ψηφίζω
psēphizō
psay-fid'-zo
From G5586; to use pebbles in enumeration, that is, (genitive case) to compute: - count.
Total KJV occurrences: 2

Dragon = Devil
Beast = Political factor
False Prophet = Religious factor
These three have worked in unison all through history to lead people further and further astray.

The opposing team is
Father
Son
Holy Spirit
These three have worked in unison all through history for the restoration of a fallen race.

 

[Stumpmaster]

Dragon = Devil
Beast = Political factor
False Prophet = Religious factor
These three have worked in unison all through history to lead people further and further astray.

The opposing team is
Father
Son
Holy Spirit
These three have worked in unison all through history for the restoration of a fallen race.

No argument. Three is the number of combined strength.

The exhortation is to count the number for its wisdom.

 

[Hobie]

Jesus was Mary's Savior. She needed a Savior because she was a sinner. ONLY Jesus was sinless!

Amen, as all who have sinned...

 

[Hobie]

There have been lots of injustices in both sides in history -lots of death in tue. Ame of Christ unfortunately. I thought we were talking about the present time and coming Antichrist?

Well I quess you missed this part... The fact that the prophets understood a year as 360 days is well attested, and can be seen in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation as seen in the use of "time, times and half a time" (i.e. 1+2+0.5=3.5), "1,260 days" and "42 months". These references represent a period of 1260 years (based on the 360 day Jewish year multiplied by 3.5). Divide 1,260 days by 42 months and you will get a 30-day month, as 12 months of 30 days equals 360-days in a year

These time periods occur eight times in scripture:
Daniel 7:25, "time, times and a half".
Daniel 9:27, "half one set of seven".
Daniel 12:7, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 11:2, "42 months".
Revelation 11:3, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:6, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:14, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 13:5, "42 months".

We see how the 1260 day-for-year prophecy is found in Daniel 7, 9 and 12 and again in Revelation 11, 12 and again in Revelation 13. so many chapters in the Bible all pointing to that same 1260 year period which today we know as "the dark ages". These "1,260 days" spanned the Middle Ages and so we are given many clues that show us what identifies this antichrist entity, which at the same time is represented by a man. And it clearly it cannot be Nero, or Mohammed, or any of the many others some claim as they do not fit the description or the timeline..

 

[Hobie]

Makes a cool triangle
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This is more likely the configuration....but it all comes down to the old pagan sun worship

 

[Taken]

The meaning of 666 and its identity

666 is primarily a Physical Mark upon a person, WHO is in agreement with A (positioned head Governor) called by men (a king, president, chairman, etc.) called in Scripture a BEAST (which shall ultimately BE Satan himself) of World Wide Ungodly Governance OVER a World Wide Population “WHICH” such portion of said Population DOES NOT have God”s SEED.
(Gods SEED, being the guaranteed precursor to that individual established to Receive Gods Mark upon them, according to the Timeframe, God has Established and Promised.)

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Hobie]

The meaning of 666 and its identity

666 is primarily a Physical Mark upon a person, WHO is in agreement with A (positioned head Governor) called by men (a king, president, chairman, etc.) called in Scripture a BEAST (which shall ultimately BE Satan himself) of World Wide Ungodly Governance OVER a World Wide Population “WHICH” such portion of said Population DOES NOT have God”s SEED.
(Gods SEED, being the guaranteed precursor to that individual established to Receive Gods Mark upon them, according to the Timeframe, God has Established and Promised.)

Glory to God,
Taken

Lets look at what scripture shows us...

Isaiah 8:16 "Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples."

A seal was something that held fast and in this context was binded up.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

and we see it will be a sign...

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Exodus 31:13,17 Truly My Sabbaths you shall keep: for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations; that you may know that I am the Lord that does sanctify you....It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel for ever.

and it is forever. But look at what do you do on the Sabbath, can we say 'worship' God.

The Mark of the Beast is about keeping of God's law especially worship, same as it always has been, and the Sabbath is at the center.

 

[BreadOfLife]

NOWHERE in the Bible does it say or imply that Mary was sinless. ONLY Jesus is sinless.

Then, provide a Biblical refutation of my argument in post #19.
That’s how a debate works.

Petty denials without evidence mean NOYTING . . .